https://declassified.library.utoronto.ca/files/original/03dc7ab23ae8eca71818e9fd3a9925af.pdf 6374feac6f8458ed133c974c7cea8405 PDF Text Text Document disclosed under the Access to information Act ta Lot Loi sur Document divulgue en vertu de la sur facets I accesaa I'information I 17 FM^SHDC N0V2i/57 SECRET CDN EYES ON; TERNAL 2472 PRIORI: &MBASSYPARIS NATOPARIS CANDELNY LDN BAG TONN FM LDN y0/J2<-$'Y;c/ y£yy *~&^/ 9AI-/4 > r REF OUR TEL 2471 N0V21 MR PINEAU'S DISCUSSIONS ON NATO MATTERS V? ^ S iQ DE LABOULAYE'S REPORT ON THE DISCUSSION RELATING TO NATO WAS AS FOLLOWS: MR PINEAU STRESSED THE NECESSITY OF A GREATER MEASURE OF SOLIDARITY WITHIN THE NATO ALLIANCE AND EMPHASIZED THAT ONLY IF THIS GREATER SOLIDARITY COULD BE ACHIEVED,WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR ANY OF THE CONTINENTAL EUROPEAN MEMBERS TO ABANDON THEIR RELIANCE ON NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY.IN THIS CONTEXT HE URGED THE IMPORTANCE OF ENSURING THAT THE NEXT MEETING OF THE NATO COUNCIL IN DEC SHOULD BE A SUCCESSFUL ONE.HE REFERRED TO THE REPORT OF THE THREE WISE MEN AND PARTICULARLY TO PARA 52E TO WHICH HE SUGGESTED SUFFICIENT ATTENTION HAD NOT BEEN GIVEN.HE DID NOT,HOWEVER,PROPOSE,NOR DID MR DULLES ,ANY INSTITUTIONAL r CHANGES,AND IT SEEMED TO BE AGREED THAT WHAT WAS NEEDED WAS TO USE MORE EFFECTIVELY THE MACHINERY NOW IN BEING. 2.THERE WAS A BRIEF REF TO THE COMMON MARKET,MR PINEAU POINTING OUT THAT IT WOULD BE DISASTROUS IF THE NATO COUNTRIES WERE TO TAKE UP A POSITION IN OPPOSITION TO THE COMMON MARKET.TO THIS MR DULLES GAVE A FAVOURABLE RESPONSE. 3.MR PINEAU AGAIN ADVANCED THE SUGGESTION WHICH HE HAD ORIGINALLY PUT FORWARD ON SEP7 LAST IN CONVERSATION WITH THE SECRETARY AS TO THE NEED FOR THE CREATION OF WHAT THE PRESS HAS CALLEDrtA WESTERN SCIENTIFIC COMMITTEE*BUT WHICH DELABOULAYE DESCRIBED AS AnPERMAMENT BRAINS TRUST" OF SCIENTIFIC EXPERTS TO POOL THEIR KNOWLEDGE IN THE FIELD OF PURE SCIENCE.FRENCH IDEAS WERE BY NO MEANS EXTENSIVELY DEVELOPED,BUT AS OUTLINED THEY INCLUDE COOPERATION IN RESEARCH AND IN THE EXCHANGE OF INFO IN A WIDE NUMBER OF SCIENTIFIC FIELDS INCLUDING ELECTRONICS, NUCLEAR PHYSICS,RADIO,ASTRONOMY,PHYSICS,BIOCHEMISTRY,AND OCEANOGRAPHY. MR PINEAU PROPOSED THAT EXPERTS FROM THE NATO COUNTRIES SHOULD MEET FIRST TO DRAFT THE PROJECTS AND AREAS TO WHICH PRIORITY SHOULD BE GIVEN,AND TO SUGGEST WHAT COULD BE EVOLVED IN THE DIRECTION OF FREER ...2 000388 �Document disclosed under the Access to Information Act Document divulgue en vertu de la Loi sur faeces a I'information PAGE TWO 2 4 7 2 4 MOVEMENT BETWEEN NATO COUNTRIES OF SCIENTIFIC PERSONNEL,AND MOK RATIONAL USE WITHIN THE NATO COMMUNITY OF SCIENTIFIC AND LABORATORY FACILITIES.THE EXISTING EUROPEAN COMMITTEE ON NUCLEAR RESEARCH PROVIDED A ROUGH BLUEPRINT FOR THE TYPE OF COOPERATION WHICH THE FRENCH BELIEVE MIGHT BE ENVISAGED IN THESE SCIENTIFIC FIELDS.MR DULLES AND THE OTHER AMERICANS CONCERNED HAD EXPRESSED INTEREST IN THESE SUGGESTIONS AND ENCOURAGED THE FRENCH TO WORK THEM OUT FURTHER AND TO PUT THEM FORWARD AT A LATER DATE.DE LABOULAYE TOLD US THAT GENERAL MARTIN,WHO IS ON THE FRENCH EMBASSY STAFF HERE HAS BEEN ASSIGNED THE TASK OF PREPARING A MORE DETAILED PRESENTATION.HE ALSO ADDED,IN REPLY TO OUR QUESTION,THAT WHAT WAS ENVISAGED WAS COOPERATION IN THE FIELD OF PURE RESEARCH AND THAT THE AMERICANS HAD NOT,IN THIS CONTEXT AT ANY RATE,RAISED DIFFICULTIES CONCERNING SECURITY. 4.THERE WAS SOME IMPORTANT DISCUSSION ON THE MILITARY SIDE.MR PINEAU GAVE THE SECRETARY HIS IMPRESSION OF THE REACTIONS OF FRENCH PUBLIC OPINION TO THE LAUNCHING OF THE SPUTNIKS AND THE REALIZATION OF THE INCREASED SOVIET CAPABILITY IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF LONG RANGE MISSILES . HE SAID THAT HE HAD ALREADY HELD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ITALIANS AND THE GERMANS AND THAT HIS VIEWS CARRIED THE GENERAL CONCURRENCE OF THESE TWO GOVTS.HE TOLD MR DULLES THAT HE HAD HEARD THAT REPORTS HAD BEEN CURRENT ACCORDING TO WHICH A DIVISION OF TASKS IN THE MILITARY FIELD WOULD BE CONSIDERED AT THE FORTHCOMING NATO SESSION.TO THIS HE SAID HE HAD NO OBJECTION BUT HE ADDED THAT FRANCE COULD NOT ACCEPT THE*PRINCIPLE OF DISCRIMINATION".BY THIS HE INDICATED THAT HE MEANT THAT FRANCE COULD NOT ACCEPT ANY LIMITATION WHICH WOULD PREVENT ITS BUILDING AND EXPLODING AN ATOMIC BOMB.HE ADDED THAT AT THE SAME TIME FRANCE COULD NOT ACCEPT ANY MODIFICATION OF THE PARIS TREATY BY WHICH GERMANY I S BOUND NOT TO ENTER THE ATOMIC FIELD.ACCORDING TO DE LABOULAYE THE SECRETARY AGREED THAT THERE SHOULD BE NO DISCRIMINATION IN THE SENSE DESCRIBED BY MR PINEAU WITH RESPECT TO FRANCE,AND I N D I CATED THAT IN PRINCIPLE HE DID NOT HAVE IN MIND ANY CHANGES WITH RESPECT TO THE GERMAN POSITION,THE DIVISION OF RESPONSIBILITIES ENVISAGED FOR DISCUSSION AT PARIS WOULD BE CARRIED OUT WITHIN THESE LIMITS AND ON THE BASIS OF WHAT MAY BE FOUND TO BE"PRACTICABLE*. 5.MR PINEAU SAID THAT FRANCE AND CERTAIN OTHER EUROPEAN COUNTRIES 000389 �J-U Document disclosed under the Access to Information Act Document divulgue en vertu de la loi sur faeces a I'information "•** * PAGE^HREE 2 4 7 2 WISHJ^TO HAVE ON EUROPEAN SOIL IRBM'S WHEN AVAILABLE AND NOT ONLY TACTICAL MISSILES.UNLESS IRBM'S COULD BE MADE AVAILABLE,THE COUNTRIES OF WESTERN EUROPE WOULD PROVIDE A TARGET FOR SOVIET WEAPONS WITHOUT ANY EFFECTIVE MEANS OF RETALIATION.MR DULLES AGREED THAT THE"INFRASTRUCTURE"FOR THE IRBM'S SHOULD BE BUILT AT LOCATIONS IN WESTERN EUROPE,BUT INDICATED THAT THE MISSILES THEMSELVES WOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE BEFORE THE END OF 1 9 5 8 . I T WAS INTENDED FURTHER THAT THE NUCLEAR WARHEADS FOR THESE WEAPONS WOULD HAVE TO BE PROVIDED AND OPERATED UNDER THE CONDITIONS IMPOSED BY PRESENT LEGISLATION WITH USA CONTROL CONTINUING TO BE OPERATIVE AND WITH PROVISION FOR USE BY NATO FORCES IMMEDIATELY IN THE CASE OF AN EMERGENCY.PROVISION WOULD ALSO BE MADE FOR THE TRAINING OF NATO FORCES IN THE USE OF THESE WEAPONS WHEN AVAILABLE.MR DULLES SAID HE HOPED TO SAY MORE ON DEC 16 ABOUT THE PRODUCTION POOLING PROGRAMME INVISAGED,BUT INDICATED THAT AGAIN THESE ARRANGEMENTS COULD ONLY BE CONSIDERED AT THAT TIME ON THE BASIS OF THE PRESENT LEGISLATION BY WHICH THE ADMINISTRATION I S BOUND.MR PINEAU HAD TAKEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO POINT OUT THAT WHILE HE RECOGNIZED THAT GENERAL NORSTAD WOULD HAVE AN IMPORTANT ROLE TO PLAY IN THE CONTROL OF THESE NEW WEAPONS FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF PUBLIC OPINION IN WESTERN EUROPE THE EMPHASIS SHOULD BE PUT ON HIS NATO CAPACITY. 6.REGARDING EXCHANGES OF SECRET SCIENTIFIC INFO,MR PINEAU URGED THAT NATO COUNTRIES SHOULD BE GIVEN"EVERYTHING THE RUSSIANS ALREADY KNOW*. MR DULLES AGREED BUT POINTED OUT THAT HIS OWN EXPERTS HAD NOT YET BEEN ABLE TO AGREE ON PRECISELY WHAT THE RUSSIANS ALREADY KNEW. 7.PINEAU THEN RAISED THE QUESTION WHETHER AT THE FORTHCOMING NATO MEETING SOMETHING SHOULD NOT BE SAID ABOUT THE MIDEAST AS AN AREA OF SPECIAL CONCERN TO NATO.MR DULLES HAD NOT EXCLUDED THIS IN PRINCIPLE, BUT SAID THAT IT WAS DIFFICULT TO FIND A FORMULA WHICH WOULD MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY.WHILE SUCH ACTION BY NATO MIGHT BE WELCOMED BY THE BAGHDAD PACT COUNTRIES,IT WOULD PRODUCE AN ADVERSE REACTION IN OTHER PARTS OF THE ARAB WORLD.THE SECRETARY ALSO MADE IT CLEAR THAT IN HIS VIEW THERE WAS NO QUESTION WHATEVER OF EXTENDING PRESENT NATO COMMITTMENTS TO COUNTRIES OUTSIDE THE NATO AREA,NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE DIFFICULTIES THAT WOULD ARISE WITH CONGRESS,BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF THE KNOWN ATTITUDES OF CERTAIN NATO MEMBERS.MR PINEAU CONTINUED TO PRESS ON THIS POINT AND SUGGESTED A FORMULA FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION. •••** 000390 �Document disclosed under the Access to Information Act Document divulgue en vertu de la Loi sur faeces a I'information 4 PAGE FOUR 2 4 7 2 HIS SUGGESTION WAS THAT IN THE FINAL COMMUNIQUE SOME STATEMENT MIGHT BE INCLUDED TO THE EFFECT THAT"THE NATO COUNTRIES CONSIDER THAT THE STABILITY OT THE MIDEAST I S A CONDITION OF THEIR OWN SECURITY*.MR DULLES AGREED TO STUDY THE QUESTION FURTHER BUT INDICATED THAT HE HAD NOT YET DECIDED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ON WHETHER IT WOULD BE BETTER TO SAY SOMETHING OR TO SAY NOTHING AT ALL. 8.WITH RESPECT TO THE FOREGOING PARA,DE LABOULAYE TOLD US PRIVATELY THAT HE WAS MOST UNHAPPY ABOUT THE FORMULA WHICH MR PINEAU HAD PUT FORWARD AND THAT HE WAS GOING TO TRY HIS HAND AT PRODUCING SOME"KORE PROMISING ALTERNATIVE".WE TOLD KIM INFORMALLY OF THE RECENT ISRAELI APPROACH AND EMPHASIZED THE SERIOUS DIFFICULTIES WE FORESAW IN STATEMENTS IMPLYING INVOLVEMENT OR COMMITTMENT OUTSIDE THE AREA. 9.WE ASKED DE LABOULAYE IF THERE HAD BEEN ANY DISCUSSION OF THE PROBLEMS OF PRESENTATION WHICH HAVE BEEN WORRYING US.TO THE BEST OF HIS KNOWLEDGE HE SAID THAT THIS ASPECT HAD NOT BEEN CONSIDERED THE RECENT DISCUSSION WHICH DEALT PRIMARILY WITH THE TOPICS SUMMARIZED ABOVE,AND IN OUR IMMEDIATELY PRECEDING MSG, lO«FOR CONVENIENCE OF REF THE COMMITTEE OF THREE REPORT PARA 52\E>R£ADS AS FOLLOWS! "WHERE A CONSENSUS HAS BEEN REACHED,IT SHOULD BE REFLECTED IN THE FORMATION OF NATIONAL POLICIES.WHEN FOR NATIONAL REASONS THE CONSENSUS I S NOT FOLLOWED,THE GOVT CONCERNED SHOULD OFFER AN EXPLANATION TO THE COUNCIL.IT I S EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THAT WHERE AN AGREED AND FORMAL RECOMMENDATION HAS EMERGED FROM THE COUNCIL DISCUSSIONS,GOVTS SHOULD GIVE IT FULL WEIGHT IN ANY NATIONAL ACTIONS OR POLICIES RELATED TO THE SUBJECT OF THAT RECOMMENDATION" ROBERTSON 000391 � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. 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