https://declassified.library.utoronto.ca/files/original/a3263771ebd417defaeb59454e09c477.pdf 744d0f4a387efe6b01ca30b401e5c161 PDF Text Text losed under the Access to Information Act - **Dsn4/4io -yy" ~ i , ,, FM LDN N0V?s5/57 SECRET CDN EYES ONLY ' " > \ \'/y A V^/^¥f) TO EXTERNAL 2 8 3 2 : \4 <9'?-/fe#JkJ*kJF\Ky INFO WASHDC NATOPARIS j} r ~ S t f T BAG COPEN BONN BRUSSELS HAGUE NATO MINISTERIAL MEETING. FM LBN £•*£ _L ./ .. L. .. LAST NIGHT AT DINNER WE MENTIONED TO BRIMELOW,HEAD OF THE NORTHERN DEPT OF THE FOREIGN OFFICE,THE STRESSES THAT MIGHT DEVELOP INSIDE NATO I S CARE WERE NOT TAKEN TO OFFSET THE EFFECT, OF STOCKPILING " NUCLEAR WEAPONS ON THE CONTINENT BY SOME APPROPRIATE EMPHASIS ON A CONSTRUCTIVE ATTITUDE TOWARDS DISARMAMENT,THE. PEACEFUL SOLUTION OF INTERNATIONAL PROBLEMS,AND SOME METHOD OF. MINIMIZING THE RISK OF' LOCAL CRISES IN PERIPHERAL AREAS SPREADING BY INADVERTENCE INTO^ ' GLOBAL WAR,HE SAID THAT THE DANISH AMBASSADOR HAD CALLED ON MR SELWYN LLOYD THAT VERY MORNING TO EXPRESS HIS GOVT'S CONCERN*BRIMELOW HAD BEEN PRESENT AT THE INTERVIEW AND OUTLINED I T TO US»THIS MORNING, IN STRICT CONFIDENCE,HE SENT US A COPY OF THE REPORT WHICH HE HAD PREPARED OF THE MEETING,AND WHICH I S BEING SENT OVER MR LLOYD'S S I G NATURE TO THE UK EMBASSY.AT OPENHAGEN.IT I S OBVIOUSLY IMPORTANT TO TREAT THIS AS FOR CANADIAN EYES ONLY.IT DOES,HOWEVER,ILLUSTRATE VIVIDLY THE RELEVANCE OF THE CONCERNS WHICH-WE HAVE FELT AND WHICH ARE DESCRIBED,INTER ALIA,IN YOUR TEL V697 N0V7*THE TEXT OF THE UK REPORT ON THE INTERVIEW IS AS FOLLOWS I TEXT BEGINS s > 1.).THE DANISH AMBASSADOR CALLED ON ME TODAY AT HIS REQUEST AND ASKED ABOUT MY EXPERIENCES AT.THE RECENT TALKS IN .WASHDC AND ABOUT. MY-VIEWS CONCERNING THE FORTHCOMING NATO MINISTERIAL MEETING, 2 ) . I SAID THET THE WASHDC TALKS HAD BEEN OF GREAT VALUE.THEY HAD RESULTED FROM THE FEELING IN THE USA.THAT SPLENDID ISOLATION WAS NOT ENOUGH,THE EFFECT OF THE SOVIET ARTIFICIAL.SATELLITES HAD BEEN TO LEAD THE AMERICANS TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THE HAND OF THE FREE WORLD WOULD HAVE TO BE PLAYED JOINTLY.THE INITIATIVE FOR THE WASHDC MEETING HAD BEEN TAKEN BY THE AMERICANSoWE THOUGHT THAT ITS OUTCOME WOULD BE OF VALUE TO THE FREE WORLD.WE WERE NOT TRYING TO SET UP AN EXCLUSIVE SYSTEM OF ANGLO AMERICAN RELATIONS.WE HAD IN VIEW A SYSTEM WHICH COULD BE EXPANDED. 3)oAS REGARDS THE FORTHCOMING NATO MEETING,! MADE FOUR POINTSoFIRST A 000419 �Document disclosed under the Access to Information Act Document divulgue en vertu de la Loi sur I'acces a I'information PAGE TWO 2 S 3 2 ^ WE HOPED THAT THE OTHER THIRTEEN MEMBERS WOULD ENDORSE THE DECLARATION OF COMMON PURPOSE MADE AT UASHDC0SECOND,WE WISHED TO DO ALL WE COULD TO MAKE PRESIDENT EISENHOWER'S TASK EASY WITH CONGRESSIN JANUARY*HE SHOULD BE HELPED,NOT HINDEREDoTHIRD,THE USA MUST MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT NUCLEAR WEAPONSoFOURTH,ALL GOVTS WOULD HAVE TO THINX ABOUT SCIETIFIC COOPERATION,BUT WE SHOULD PREPARE PUBLIC OPINION <UNDERLXND)AGAINSTCEND UNDERLINE)THE IDEA THAT A BLUE PRINT WAS GOING TO 2MSRGZ.T00 GREAT EXPECTATIONS SHOULD NOT BE EN, : y ,". -\ ' ' , - ' • - .yv r. -v ; _;• * y . COURAGEDol ADDED THAT IN MY C0NTAC9DLCJH THE PRESS I WAS SAYING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE TO HAVE JOINT TALItS ABOUT POSSIBLE METHODS OF POOLING RESOURCES ,3UT THAT BLUE PRINT SHOULD NOT DE EXPECTEDo 4 > o I N REPLY TO A COMMENT FROM THE AMBASSADOR THAT IT WAS DIFFICULT TO FIGURE OUT V/HAT TO DO ABOUT THIS AV PRESENT,! SAID THAT IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO TELL WHAT COULD BE DONE UNTIL THE AMERICAN LAW HAD BEEN AMENDED* 3UTHE AMBASSADOR THEN REFERRED TO TIIE FOUR MAIN TASKS OF AMERICAN DEFENCE POLICY AS OUTLINED BY PRES IDE. !T EISENHOWER IN HIS NATIONWIDE SPEECH FROM OKLAHOMA CITY ON nIOVAMSEE PAGE 5,2 OF THE TIMES OF NOVUSoTHE FIRST OF THESE POINTS WAS PHRASED AS FOLLOWS8- °AS A PRIMARY DETERRENT TO WAR,MAINTAIM A NUCLEAR RETALIATORY POWER OF SUCH CAPACITY AS TO CONVINCE THE SOVIETS THAT ANY ATTACK ON US AND OUR ALLIES WOULD RESULTy REGARDLESS OF DAMAGE TO U S P I N THEIR OWN NATION'S DESTRUCTION*" THE AMBASSADOR COMMENTED THAT THIS POINT MADE NO MENTION OF COOPERATION UITH THE ALLIES OF THE U S A d REPLIED THAT IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO BE DEFINITE UNTIL WE KNEW HOW THE AMERICAN LAW WAS TO BE AMENDED*BUT AT THE NATO MEETING WE LOOKED FORWARD TO A VERY COMPLETE EXCHANGE OF VIEWS « ALL SORTS OF IDEAS MIGHT BE PUT FORWARD* BUT I DOUBTED WHETHER IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO DRAW UP A COMPLETE PLANsTHOUGH WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FEEL MUR WAY TOWARDS AN UTLIMEoUHAT WE REALLY WANTED WASOA DECLARATION OF PRINCIPLE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THEJPRESIDENT.ON,THE OTHER HANDjIF THE LAW WENT THPpH-GJfyAlfD IF WE.3VILL HAD MO P U N S I X MONTSH THEREAFTERDWE OUGHT ALL TO BE SHOT* 6L*TKE AMBASSADOR THEN TOLD ME THAT THERE HAD BEEN MUCH DISCUSSION » O O O 000420 �, 3. Document disclosed under the Access to Information Act Document divulgue en vertu de la Loi sur I'acces a I'informatio .^ PAG I HREE 2 S 3 2 fcj DENMARK AS TO WHO SHOULD PRESS THE BUTTON,AND HE ENQUIRED WHETHER THE FOREIGN OFFICE HAD INSPIRED THE FIRST LEADER IN THE TIMES OF N 0 V J 3 . I REPLIED THAT WE NEVER ADMITTED TO ANY CRIME.THE AMBASSADOR COMMENTED THAT DANISH OPINIONWAS. VERY-SENSITIVE ON. THIS QUESTION, AND HAD REGRETTED THE, EXTENSION„QF .NATO ,fTO COVER .TURKEY AND GREECE*. THE GREATER THE NUMBER OF COUNTRIES,THE MORE. DIFFICULT IT BECAME, TO HANDLE THEIR PROBLEMS, "< . . . . . . . . • ., . .* ?>.WHEN THE AMBASSADOR.ASKED WHETHER A.SUMMIT MEETING.WOULD B E / D I S CUSSED,! REFERRED HIM TO WHAT. I HAD SAID IN THE HOUSE ON THE NOV8 ,. AND ADDED THAT A,MEETING WHICH FAILED WAS WORSE THAN NO MEETING AT ALL* * . :. . . •• . t • • . , , . . . • THE AMBASSADOR OBSERVED THAT FROM THE POINT OF VIEW.OF PROPAGANDA, . . . . . . . . . •* I T WAD INADVISABLE TO BE TOO NEGATIVE,THOUGH KHRUSHCHEV HAD SAID - YESTERDAY THAT HE WAS FED UP WITH HIS TALKS LAST YEAR WITH SIR A EDEN AND MYSELF*I TOLD THE AMBASSADOR THAT DURING MR KHRUSHCHEV'S VISIT,WE HAD TRIED TO PREVENT HIM FROM MAKING PROPAGANDA SPEECHES TO WORK PEOPLE,BUT AT HARWELL,WHEN. I HADTTO LEAVE HIM FOR A LITTLE WHILE,HE GOT INTO CONVERSATION WITH' STJME'SHOP STEWARDS.WHEN I RETURNED I FOUND ONE OF THEM NAMED MACARTHY ASKING KHRUSHCHEV WHEN HE WAS GOING TO HAVE FREE TRVDE UNIONS IN THE USSRGM ILMTHE AXBZSSADOR TOLD ME THAT MR HANSEN HAD RECENTLY HAD AN HOUR*S CONVERSAZION WITH MR GROMYKO.MR GROMYKO HAD SHOWN NEITHER COURTESY NOR FRIENDLINESS,EXCEPT THAT AT THE END HE HAD ASKED TO REMEMBERED TO MADAME HANSEN.MR GROMYKO HAD SPOKEN OF THE BALTIC AS A SEA OF PEACE. HE HAD ALSO ACCUSED THE DANES OF HAVIG ATOMIC WEAPONS-WHICH WAS NOT TRUE,FOR ALTHOUGH THE DANES HAD MISSILES,THEY DID NOT HAVE ATOMIC WARHEADS,MR GROMYKO HAD BEEN VERY TOUGH* 5 ) . T H E AMBASSADOR THEN REMARKED THAT MR BEVAN?S V I S I T TO THE USA COULD HARDLY HAVE FURTHERED GOOD RELATIONS BETWEEN OUR TWO COUNTRIES* HIS CRITICISMS OF MR DULLES HAD NOT BEEN TO UNFAVOURABLY RECEIVED, BUT THAT COULD NOT BE SAID OF HIS CRITICISMS OF PRESIDENT EISENHOWER* iO>.THE AMBASSADOR SAID HE WOULD REPORT TO HIS GOVT THE GIST OF OUR CONVERSATION,AND IN PARTICULAR THE POINTS THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO HELP THE AMERICANS AND NOT TO MAKE THINGS DIFFICULT FOR THEM*I POINTED OUT THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER NOT ONLY THE MILITARY NEEDS OF THE MOMENT,BUT ALSO THE PSYCHOLOGICAL ONES.THERE WAS MUCRA * * ° 4 000421 �Document disclosed under the Access to Information Act Document divulgue en vertu de la Loi sur I'acces a I'information tt PAGE FOUR 2 8 3 2 TO DO BEHIND THE SHIELD AFFORDED BY OUR MILITARY ARRANGEMENTS* U ) * I N REPLY TO AN ENQUIRY BY THE AMBASSADOR ABOUT THE PART THE WEST GERMANS WOULD PLAY,I SAID THAT IT SEEMED TO ME THAT 2HE GREATEST PREASURE WOULD HAVE TO BE BROUGHT TO BEAR ON THE FEDERAL GOVT IF THEY WERE TO AGREE TO TAKE PART IN THE MANUFACTURE OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS*THE GERMANS SEEMED TO PREFER HAKIMS WASHING MACHINES*BUT WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO PUT ALL OUR EFFORT INTO DEFENCE?THE WEST GERMANS SHOULD DO THEIR SHARE*THE AMBASSADOR COMMENTED ON THE APPARENT RELUCTANCE OF GERMAN SCIENTISTS*I AGREED THAT NEITHER THEY NOR THE CHANCELLOR SEEMED TO WANT ATOMIC WEAPOKS IN GERMANY. TEXY ENDS* 000422 � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CDNW02262 Title A name given to the resource London to External 2832 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 15-Nov-57 Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived �NATO - Stockpiling of atomic weapons in NATO countries,� RG25-A-3-b, vol. 5958, 50219-AL-1-40, pt. 1.1, Library and Archives Canada (LAC). 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