https://declassified.library.utoronto.ca/files/original/303645bf59415f2d60dba0006769ff9d.pdf 8f7fc555be5ecd76e01fa795e8ce3a90 PDF Text Text Document disclosed under the Acq ActDocument divulguej g^ejeflji^mi.de \*Loi/Qr Itotees es a /'information SECRET • * FILS^2723'2.n>72J7 &CRS P - PARTMENT OF NATIONAL DEFEN MIN1STERE DE LA DEFEN^SE-NATTONACE z ~ 5 1967 cs 2727-9 (sso P) ° * K Acfm Sec Canadian Forces ComrauniciTTcn""S*ystem Ottawa 4 , O n t a r i o L_».. 31 August, 1967 1 Distribution List HYDRA NETWORK - PLANNING COOBDINATION AMD CONTROL References: A. CANCOMMCOMS CS 2727-9 (Comd) of 4 Aug 67 B. COMMSQN ROCKCLIFFIS CO 3 4 l of 211505Z Aug 67 C. COMMSQN ROCKCIIFEES CO 342 of 211504Z Aug 67 (copy a t t a c h e d ) COMMSQN BOCKCLIFFES CO 313 of 2813252, J u l 67 (copy a t t a c h e d ) Cabinet Office London MISC 270/17 of 171855Z Aug 67 London T r a f f i c C e n t r e ' s LTC $33 of 18 J u l 67 (copy a t t a c h e d ) D. B. P. 1. References B t o P a r e correspondence between B r i t i s h a u t h o r i t i e s and 70^ Comm Sqn E o c k c l i f f e r e g a r d i n g t h e p o s s i b l e p r o v i s i o n i n g of Telegraph o r d e r - w i r e f a c i l i t i e s between the OCSP and a l l of t h e Washington s u b s c r i b e r s t o the HIDRA system. 2. Reference A p a r a 5 i n v i t e d a t t e n t i o n t o the u r g e n t need t o c o n c e n t r a t e , a t t h i s HQ, a l l c o o r d i n a t i o n and c o n t r o l a s p e c t s of o p e r a t i o n a l problems p e r t a i n i n g t o t h i s network. The above r e f e r e n c e s confirm the e a r l y n e c e s s i t y f o r so doing and i t i s r e q u e s t e d t h a t an e a r l y d e c i s i o n be made t o o f f i c i a l l y d e s i g n a t e t h i s HQ as the OPI for m a t t e r s of t h i s n a t u r e , 3. This HQ does not s u b s c r i b e t o t h e proposed usage of the Telex i n s t a l l a t i o n a t E o c k c l i f f e for " t e l e g r a p h o r d e r - w i r e e n g i n e e r i n g " f o r a number of r e a s o n s , the c h i e f of which is t h a t t h e Telex s e r v i c e xvas provided f o r the n e c e s s a r y passage of formal o f f i c i a l messages and, in t h i s r e s p e c t , is in regular d a i l y u s e . .../2 SECRET 000225 �Document disclosed under the Access to Information Act Document divulgue en vertu de la Loi sur faeces a {'information SECRET • * - 2 - 4. Reference P s t a t e d t h a t the m a j o r i t y of c a b l e outages was due t o commercial c a r r i e r f a u l t s in North America. This HQ has not been provided with r e p o r t s on the s t a t u s of t h e s e c i r c u i t s , c o n s e q u e n t l y we have no s t a t i s t i c s which would confirm or r e b u t t h e above s t a t e m e n t . Por t h i s purpose i t i s suggested t h a t r e g u l a r r e p o r t s be made t o t h i s HQ on a l l HYDRA c i r c u i t s t e r m i n a t i n g a t OCSF. ^ R.E. Mooney Group Captain Commander CFCS DISTRIBUTION LIST ACTION CANFOECEHED/DCRS 2 INFORMATION COMMSQN ROCKCLIFFE SECRET 000226 �V PglORITV* NNNNVV jf % PC A 2 9 1 CPA034 i^s^fe PP RCCWC r>zS ^—-^ r, ^ \ i * > - ^ - » HH PP RCCWC RCCPMR DE RCCPC 4 6 RCCPHH X 21/ism P R 2 U 5 0 5 2 AUG <S7 SECRET FM COMMSQN ROCKCLIFFE TO RCCWC/CANFORCEHED v INFO RCCWC/CANCOMMCOM ^ i RCCPMR/CABINET OFFICE LONDON RCCPNH/BRITISH EMBASSY WASHINGTON No u n c l a 3 s i f i G d reference ftCCPMR/FOREIGN OFFICE LONDON r e p i y or RCCPMR/LONDON TRAFFIC CENTRE BT • . S E C R E T ' C0341 SUBJECTS USE OF TELEX AS HYDRA ENGINEERING CIRCUIT REFJ A. CABINET OFFICE LONDON SECRET MISC 2?0/l7 1718552 NOTAL. FOR CANFORCEHED DCRS 2 1. USE OF SQN TELEX AS PROPOSED REF A WOULD BE SATISFACTORY FROM SQN VIEWPOINT HOWEVER.AS SUBJECT EQUIPMENT ESTABLISHED FOR CANBIAN FORCES COMMUNICATION- SYSTEM USE PRIOR APPROVAL FROM HQ CONSIDERED NECESSARY, ADDITIONALLY IT MUST BE POINTED OUT THAT OCSF AND SQN TELEX ARE PHYSICALLY REMOVED BY Tt-JO DOORS AND DISTANCE OF APPROX FIFTY FEET MAKING WORKING ARRANGEMENTS NOT AS SATISFACTORY AS AN ON-THE-SPOT MACHINE. NOTWITHSTANDING ABOVE, IF TELEX USE AUTHORIZED FOR OCSF, RECOMMEND THAT SUCH USE BE EXTENDED TO INCLUDE ALL OCSF WASHINGTON PAGE 2 RCCPC 46 S E C R E T SUBSCRIBERS. 2. SQN TELEX NUMBER IS ZERO ONE THREE DASH TWO ONE EIGHT, ANSWER BACK COMM SQN OTT. 3. FOR CANCOMMCOM MY CO 342 211504Z REFERS BT 0 »*-' * rs 000232 •^•MMi �SBW• TRANSIT 'RECORD. '' CW7<2l-f Flit HCFfUf.VCr T P A S < , , ; iV;» ! : ^ ! T : ' HH 'VV ' PCA3C3 CPA05S '' AUG -"•-. RR RCCWC INITIALS %,. 210*66 P -—-a. "- '. DE RCCPC 45 21/1917Z 7 GT^+JOT^^ L R.'2115042 AUG .67' A-P , Paraplir-d-:;..- Mci^'' Required .'• • '_. FM COMMSQN ROCKCLIFFE , • -" No unclassified • reply--or ,mjMJ0i ... reference -. .7 .•••••' /!/• J- •'.,. TO CANCOMMCOM.- ,7,.; ."': ** •' .'.: BT '. •'•/ •• '• J -" '"•..'•- -„/.--. .'' • • "7 ' '. - *• ' • ';• '• '••/••'_; ' ' \7-.:'.7-, ;7-:V-. '''7^ 7 V"' S E C R E T C0342' ' "• .-'' '' ; ./SUBJECTS HYDRA 'CIRCUITS GENERALLY, USE. OF TELEX . : REF: -A, -''MY C0.341 211505Z.-'7.. -': /' B. YOUR CS2727-9 CCOMD) 4 AUG • 67,:; -7' •/;., ••-.•', .'7 7"' ' •" 1. BACKGROUND CORRESPONDENCE LEADING UP TO SUBJECT OF REF A FOLLOWS: A.tLETTER WRITTEN TO CO 704.,COMMSQN ON IS JUL 67' BY MR. WEBB, EIC LONDON TRAFFIC CENTRE (CC. MR. CUTHBERTSON, BRITISH EMBASSY (BE) WASH). MR WEBB REFERRED AMONG' OTHER THINGS TO LACK OF AN ORDER WIRE BETWEEN ROCKCLIFFE AND BE WASH AND ASKED THAT TELEX BE USED TO PROVIDE THIS SERVICE. B. CUR REPLY CO 313 281325Z JUL INDICATED OUR CONCERN OVER ENGINEERING DIFFICULTIES WITH BE WASH AND SUGGESTED PROVISION OF AN OMNIBUS ENGINEERING CIRCUIT TO ALL OCSF WAHINGTON SUBSCRIBERS, SECURITY CONSIDERATIONS PERMITTING. THIS MESSAGE WAS.SENT TO MR WEBB INFO TO MR CUTHBERTSON AND CANFORCEHED DCRS 2. C, OUR REPLY WAS PASSED TO CABINET OFFICE LONDON WHICH ORIGINATED MISC 20/17 171S552 (REFERRED TO IN REF A) ASKING FOR IMMEDIATE USE OF ^ T V " .'*W» f ;"w^ff*»^g*T & eRe£trA]c77 <C 000227 �Document disclosed under the Access to Information Act Document divulgue en vertu de la Loi sur faeces a {'informatio n \ V# . # PAG2T2 RCCPC 45 S E C R E T TELEX, 2 . WITH DUE REFERENCE TO REF B IT I S FELT THAT THIS SUBJECT I S ONE OF CONCERN TO YOUR HQ AS WELL AS CANFORCEHED. CLARIFICATION OF THIS SQNS RESPONSIBILITIES IN SUCH MATTERS I S REQUESTED, WHEN SUCK CLARIFICATION, IS DETERMINED, IT SHOULD BE MADE KNOWN TO ALL CONCERNED. ' 3 . COPIES OF ALL PERTINENT CORRESPONDENCE IN THIS MATTER ARE BEING PREPARED AND WILL BE FORWARDED BY MAIL ASAP. BT Gi ci. "y <% ^ iVL 000228 �^Rs^umaf^ai^lnh^Luia^enXk^ Document divulgue en vertu de la io/ sur I'acqes a {'information w MESSAGE FORM ^ F"-E # 704-2727-1 (CO) NUMBER FOR C O M M C E N / S I G N A L S USE # PRECEDENCE - ACTION FROM TO PRECEDENCE - INFO DATE - TIME GROUP ROUTINE DEFERRED CO 704 COMMSQN ROCKCLIFFE, ONTARIO 2 8 1 3 2 5 2 •• O L MESSAGE INSTRUCTIONS (/I i COMMSQN ROCKCLIFFE GR SECURITY CLASSIFICATION RPDP/STANBRIDGE PSE PASS TO F . O . LDN RPDP/F.O. LDN PSE PASS TO LTC MR. G . U . P . WEBB E . I . C . LTC SECRET ORIGINATOR'S NUMBER / ' INFO CO 3 1 3 MR. M.D. CUTHBERTSON BRITISH EMBASSY WASHINGTON DC CANFORCEHED FM S/L H . R . GRAINGER 1. MANY THANKS FOR YOUR LETTER LTC 533 1 8 JULY 1 9 6 7 . 2. REQUEST FOR SPARE LINE BETWEEN CPT OTTAV/A AND .ROCKCLIFFE SHOULD IMPROVE AVAILABILITY OF TGP-1. 3. WE ARE VERY MUCH CONCERNED OVER ENGINEERING DIFFICULTIES WITH WASHINGTON BE. AN OMNIBUS ENGINEERING CIRCUIT COVERING ALL. OFWASHINGTON SUBSCRIBERS INCLUDING HCPKW, HCPCW, HCPHO, BOTH B.E. CIRCUITS AND OCSF WOULD SEEM A MOST LOGICAL ANSWER, SECURITY . CONSIDERATIONS PERMITTING. REFERS TO MESSAGE PAGE 1 OF 2 NAME PAGES CLASSIFIEDYEsn FOR OPR'S USE DRAFTER'S OPERATOR NO D OPERATOR RELEASING OFFICER'S SIGNATURE DND 9 0 6 7530-21-562-7311 000229 �Document disclosed under the Access tolnfariffaTTc Document divulgue en vertu de la Loi sur facce i MESSAGE FORM FILE 70/ + ~ 2 7 2 7 - 1 (CO) _ FOR C O M M C E N / S I G N A L S USE • ' NUMBER # DATE - TIME GROUP PRECEDENCE - INFO PRECEDENCE - ACTION MESSAGE. INSTRUCTIONS DEFERRED FROM GR SECURITY CLASSIFICATION TO SECRET ORIGINATOR'S NUMBER co 313 INFO 4... AN ADDITIONAL CIRCUIT TO HCPKW TO ACCOMODATE THE TRAFFIC LOAD NOW RELAYED OVER THE EXISTING OMIBUS SHOULD BE'AUTHORIZED OPENING UP POSSIBILITIES FOR AN EXTRA RADIO TERMINAL EXTENSION AS WELL. 5. C M YOU REFER ABOVE TO YOUR' GOVERNMENT SIGNAL PLANNING STAFF PLEASE. 6 . WE WILL WELCOME YOUR WEEKLY OUTAGE REPORT 7. FOR CjmQJICRSJi. REGARDS.. REFERS TO PAGE OF MESSAGE NAME PAGES CLASSIFIED yes D FOR OPRS USE DRAFTER'S DATE TIME SYSTEM OPERATOR NO D DATE Mr. P . Belanger TIME SYSTEM 704-CS OPERATOR 39-088 RELEASING OFFICER'S SIGNATURE AP MCKILLOP F / L (OPS 0) DND 9 0 6 7530-21-662-731 I -*'^i*>*- »• ~#vty»***mmpmmip.nt'Mt . 1 ' 000230 �Document disclosed under the Access to Information Act Document divulgue en vertu de la Loi sur faeces a {'information • # Room 264* Cornwall House* Stamford Street, London* S.E. 18 th July, 1967 Ref LTC 533 Dear Squadron Leader Grainger, In my letter to Pierre Belanger of July 13 I advised him that I would be attending a Meeting convened to discuss cable outage on our circuits TCP 1 to 6, I also referred to what I considered to be a weakness* namely the lack of an order wire between Rockcliffe and Washington B.E* and that I would be emphasising this at the meeting. The meeting was held today and it was agreed that* a. Cable outage was excessive* b« The majority of outage was due to faults occurring within North America, possibly because of the complex of commercial connecting companies, $r. The provision of an order wire between Rockcliffe and Washington B.E. would be of great assistance in localising faults* Regarding item c*, may I ask if you would permit Telex to be used between OCSF and Washington B.E* to facilitate the trouble shooting of faults occurring on TGP 2, 3$ U and ft* I can assure you that our people in Washington would be in agreement. Perhaps, if you are able to make an immediate and favourable decision you would signal me. On the other hand, should you feel it expedient to refer the matter higher, I would be happy to ask our Government Signal Planning Staff to write to Col* Finch* Another proposal made at the meeting was that I should forward to you weekly (each Monday over TGP l) a copy of my cable outage report. It was thought that your staff may be interested to relate our figures with their own and when pertinent use them to support any claims they may be making for an improved service. Again, perhaps you would signal me if this proposal appeals to you* ton will note that I have copied this letter to the Engineer~inCharge Washington B.E. who is particularly interested in obtaining an improvement in cable circuit performance. + ^. Oopy to! — Mr. M.D. Cuthbertson, British Embassy, Washington, D.C. Regards, r n m v r- ~-—- rr...T.P. WebbJ , \, „.-* RETFEReMCir V *— -000231 � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Hydra Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context HY00347 Title A name given to the resource Hydra Network - Planning - Coordination and Control Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 08/31/1967 Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Fixed Communications - Hydra Telegraph Relay System - Relocation of Hydra - Plans and Policy, RG24, S-2723-2, Vol. 2, Library and Archives Canada (LAC) Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Department of National Defence Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Canadian Crown Subject The topic of the resource Rockcliffe, transatlantic cables, radio communications, GSPS, TELEX, British Embassy Washington Description An account of the resource Series of correspondence pertaining to use of Telex facilities between Rockcliffe and Hydra subscribers in Washington for engineering purposes. Use of Telex for engineering purposes desired by London, as recent outages on TGP circuits have been "excessive," and attributed to faults in North American commercial system. They recommend Telex be used for localized troubleshooting. Correspondence indicates that CFCS objects to use of Telex, as line is used for official traffic and currently occupied with this purpose. CFCS further indicates they have received no reports on the status of commercial cable circuits. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Canada Declassified Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource PDF Language A language of the resource en