https://declassified.library.utoronto.ca/files/original/fe40e70a82373f660d4b6917f8793587.pdf 5d2b417b0bdd8613225ef5dd07703995 PDF Text Text Document disclosed under the Access to Information Act Document divulgue en vertu de la Loi sur I'acces a I'information c P PRIORITY Y BY SECURE MEANS S E C R E T FM CJSW 052030Z TO CCOS S P E C T R A S E C R E T JSW460 5 DEC 57 FOR GENERAL FOULKES FROM SPARLING. NO CIRCULATION SUBCOMMITTEE E BIOLOGICAL, RADIOLOGICAL AND CHEMICAL WARFARE MET AT 0 9 0 0 HOURS 5 DEC. CANADA WAS REPRESENTED BY DR J J GREEN, LT COLONEL STAPLES AND LT COLONEL BOND. BRUNDRETT (UK) OPENED MEETING POINTING OUT THAT IN THIS AREA MOST EXCELLENT COOPERATION HAD TAKEN PLACE OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS BUT IN VIEW OF UK URGENT NEED FOR REALLOCATION OF EFFORT THE PURPOSE OF THE MEETING WAS TO EXAMINE POSSIBLE FURTHER COOPERATION AMONG THE THREE COUNTRIES. HE PROCEEDED TO NOTE THAT UK HAD EXCELLENT RESEARCH FACILITIES AT PORTON MANNED BY COMPETENT STAFFS. THE US HAD A MAJOR ADVANTAGE IN ITS DEVELOPMENT AND PRODUCTION CAPABILITIES AND CANADA HAD UNIQUE FIELD TESTING FACILITIES. I T THEREFORE APPEARED REASONABLE TO EXAMINE WAYS AND MEANS OF SHARING THE WORK LOAD MORE INTIMATELY. FOR EXAMPLE UK MIGHT CONCENTRATE PREDOMINANTLY ON RESEARCH, CANADA ON FIELD TRIALS AND USA ON PRODUCTION. GREEN (CANADA) OUTLINED CANADIAN POSITION STRESSING THE CLOSEST OF TRIPARTITE COOPERATION THAT EXISTED IN THIS AREA. SPECIFIC ATTENTION WAS DRAWN TO THE SUFFIELD FIELD TRIAL CAPABILITIES, THE GROSSE ISLE ANTI ANIMAL BW ACTIVITIES AND THE CANADIAN CAPABILITIES IN CBR RESEARCH TO INCLUDE CW AGENT RESEARCH MEDICAL CW RESEARCH AND FUME WARFARE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT. IT V/AS POINTED OUT THAT CANADA I S AT THE MOMENT ACTIVELY REEXAMINING THE CBR PORTION OF ITS RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM. CREASY (US) AGREED THAT THERE WAS NO DOUBT THAT UK CAPABILITIES AT PORTON WERE EXCELLENT BUT THAT THE EXTENT OF THE PORTON WORK WAS NOT MORE THAN TEN PERCENT OF THE US RESEARCH EFFORT AND THAT THERE WAS NO MUNITION DEVELOPMENT WORK GOING ON IN THE UK. HE READILY AGREED THAT THE SUFFIELD FACILITIES WERE UNIQUE AND ESPECIALLY VALUABLE FOR COLD WEATHER, BUT HE STRESSED THAT THE DUGWAY (US) PLANT WAS LARGER AND CONSIDERABLY MORE HIGHLY INSTRUMENTED.- AS REGARDS GROSSE ISLE HE STATED THAT THE CAPABILITIES 'WERE LIMITED AND FOR THIS REASON THE US HAD AT ONE TIME OPERATED THE PLUM ISLAND FACILITY FOR ANTI ANIMAL WORK. HE NOTED THAT AT THIS TIME THE US HAD, BY NATIONAL AUTHORITY, NO OFFENSIVE OR DEFENSIVE PROGRAM IN THIS FIELD. CREASY CONTINUED BY QUESTIONING HOW MUCH MORE COULD BE ACHIEVED IN VIEW OF THE ALREADY EXISTING CLOSE COOPERATION. CREASY AND BRUNDRETT DISCUSSED FEASIBILITY OF EXCHANGING RESEARCH WORKERS AMONGST THE COUNTRIES WITHOUT ARRIVING AT ANY FIRM CONCLUSIONS. BRUNDRETT STATED THAT THE IMPENDING UK CUTS IN THE CBR FIELD WERE DUE TO A LACK OF MILITARY DEMAND. CREASY POINTED OUT THAT IT WAS TRUE THAT FINANCIAL CUT BACKS V/ERE TAKING P U C E BUT IN RECENT MONTHS HE HAD OBSERVED A GROWING INTEREST IN CBR AND EXPECTED THIS TO REACH A PEAK IN 3 TO 5 YEARS. HE BELIEVED THIS WAS DUE TO A GROWING RELUCTANCE TO USE NUCLEAR WEAPONS WHICH COULD IN TURN RESULT IN A UCK OF SUITABLE WARHEADS FOR MISSILES UNLESS BW AND CW WERE EMPLOYED. HE NOTED THAT WITHIN A VERY FEW YEARS BW AND CW AREAS OF EFFECTIVENESS WOULD EXCEED THOSE OF COMPARABLE SIZED NUCLEAR WARHEADS. HE SUMMARIZED BY STRESSING THAT TO LET EFFORTS DROP IN THE CBR FIELD, AS WAS APPARENTLY HAPPENING IN THE UK WAS TO COURT NATIONAL DISASTER AND EVEN PERHAPS INTERNATIONAL FAILURE. BRUNDRETT WAS UNABLE TO DETECT 000346 �Document disclosed under the Access to Information Act Document divulgue en vertu de la Loi sur I'acces a I'information JSW 46O S P E C T R A S E C R E T PAGE TWO A COMPARABLE INCREASE IN INTEREST IN THE UK BUT PERSONALLY CONSIDERED I T A PITY TO LET THE PORTON FACILITIES DISAPPEAR AND FELT THAT CLOSE COORDINATION OF EFFORT MIGHT KEEP THEM ALIVE. GREEN SAID THAT NO ACTUAL CUT BACK HAD YET OCCURRED IN CANADA BUT THAT THE DEMAND FOR INCREASED RESEARCH EFFORT IN OTHER IMPORTANT DEFENCE FIELDS WOULD BE LEADING TO A MORE CRITICAL EXAMINATION OF WHAT DRB WAS DOING IN THE CBR FIELD. THE NEED TO KEEP ABREAST OF CURRENT DEVELOPMENTS WAS NOT QUESTIONED BUT THE COST OF SUFFIELD APPEARED OUT OF LINE UNLESS IT WERE REQUIRED ON A TRIPARTITE BASIS. AS A RESULT OF CONSIDERABLE DISCUSSION IT WAS CONCLUDED THAT THE RECENT TRIPARTITE TOXICOLOGICAL CONFERENCE HAD IN FACT DIVIDED THE PROGRAMS AMONG THE THREE COUNTRIES AND UNTIL THE MAIN COMMITTEE HAD STUDIED THE REPORT OF THAT CONFERENCE THERE WAS NO NEED FOR FURTHER EFFORT TO EFFECT FULLER COOPERATION EXCEPT POSSIBLY IN THE AREA OF RADIOLOGICAL DEFENCE. IN THIS FIELD I T WAS RECOMMENDED AND AGREED THAT CONTACT OFFICERS.. (LT COLONEL A WALKLEY (BJSM) AND LT COLONEL H STAPLES ( C J S ( w ) ) WOULD IN COOPERATION V/ITH APPROPRIATE US AGENCIES CAREFULLY EXAMINE COORDINATION IN THIS H E L D . IN THIS MATTER THE AEC REPRESENTATIVE (DR DUNHAM) AGREED THAT AEC SHOULD WILLINGLY PARTICIPATE IN THIS EXAMINATION. THE CANADIEN OBSERVERS NOTED A LARGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE US AND UK APPRECIATIONS OF RUSSIAN INVOLVEMENT IN THE CW AND BW FIELD. US HELD THE VIEW THAT RUSSIAN USE ON AN INTERCONTINENTAL BASIS WAS PROBABLE AND THE UK THAT THIS WAS NOT SO. UK VIEWS APPROXIMATED THOSE OF CANADIAN J I B 2 0 1 1 2 / 2 0 1 1 3 / F H / 0 6 0 0 3 0 Z DEC 57 000347 � Text A resource consisting primarily of words for reading. Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre Text. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CDNW01258 Title A name given to the resource CJSW to CCOS JSW460 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 12/6/1957 Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived "Canada/US Agreement for Cooperation concerning military aspects of atomic energy." RG25-A-3-b, vol. 5957, 50219-AK-40, part 1, Library and Archives Canada (LAC). 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