https://declassified.library.utoronto.ca/files/original/7c263ae456a45b367d1cd0ab74cd7af5.pdf 8a1613246701ca9adaf3ed4c5f61dee9 PDF Text Text Document disclosed under the Access to Information Act Document divulgue en vertu de la Loi sur I'acces a I'information S E C R E T 5 December 1957 The Minister Special Tripartite Meetings in Washington - Second Report 1. The Sub Conmittee on Nuclear Propulsion and Power Reactors met on the morning of A Decemberl957, and~initlal discussion concerned approval for direct exchange of information between the Westinghouse Company of the United States and the Rolls Royce Company of the United Kingdom on nuclear power plants for submarine propulsion. The United States representativf suggested that this could be accomplished by the Atomic Energy Commission of the United States informing: the Westinghouse Company that they may exchange information directly with the British Company. The United Kingdom was also requested to Indicate the extent i of their Interest in nuclear power for frigates and aircraft in order that the United States authorities could request appropriate amendments \ to present United States legislation. The United Kingdom stated that although they have no requirement at present for exchange of information in these particular areas, they wished it to be left opien for possible future discussions since the United Kingdom have not finalized their v i e w concerning the best application of their efforts <> The United Kingdom representative also pointed out that if there is to be a sharing of the research effort that their own Atomic Warfare Rosearch Establishment would like to participate and suggested they might develop a capability in the rocket field. It was further stated that the British Army requires information on packaged atomic reactors although no procurement plans exist at the present. The United Kingdom was asked If they wished to procure from the United States nuelear war products such as submarine reactor cores or complete power plants, as an extension of existing laws would be necessary to permit sales of such equipment. The United Kingdom replied that they were unsure whether or not these item would be procured from the United States but they had the matter under consideration. The United States indicated that there might be a possible difficulty in securing congressional approval. The meeting was informed that although Canada had no firm nuclear propulsion requirement at tiie present time we are most interested in obtaining information regarding nuclear power, plants for the frigate class ship. 2. The Sub Committee on Delivery Systems which is concerned with all the various categories of ballistic and guided missiles also met on the morning of A December 1957. Commencing with the intermediate range ballistic missile, the discussion revealed that the present UK - US programmes do not overlap. The United Kingdom missile has a range of 2200 miles which is an intermediate range between the U.S. Thor or Jupiter missile and the Intercontinental Ballistic Missile. Collaboration between the United Kingdom and tha United States already exists in this area by virtue of the present U.K. - U.S. missile polioy committee on the secretary level and comnercial agreements between the U.S. North American Company and the U.K. Rolls Royce Company on propulsion aad between the U.S. Convair Company and the U.K. DeHavilland Company on vehicles. Tha discussion also revealed the desirability for muoh closer collaboration on research aspects particularly in the solid propellent field and Canadian participation was welcomed. Discussions on short range ground-to-ground missiles referred to four U.S. Array projects - Little John, Lacrosse, Corporal or Sergeant and Redstone. It would appear that there is also no duplication between the U.K. and the U.S. in this field since the U.K. "Red Rose" missile 000368 �Document disclosed under the Access to Information Act Document divulgue en vertu de la toi sur I'acces a I'information - 2 has upwards of a 30 mile range depending upon the warhead and it appears to fit between tbe U.S. Lacrosse and Corporal missile. However, this project is not far advanced with availability scheduled for 1962. Anti-tank weapons were also discussed and in particular the Australian, United States and French wire controlled missiles. The United Kingdom are presently evaluating the Australian missile. This field of short range ground-to-ground missiles was considered to be adequately covered by the existing tripartite standardization agreement between the U.K., the U.S. and the Canadian Armies. In the air-to-ground missiles, both the United Kingdom aad the United -States have programmes for missiles aimed at 400 miles range te improve the capability of the "V" bombers and the "B52" aircraft respectively. The United States Navy have "Regulus 2" which is comparable, although it is not air launched. It was agreed that there is scope for closer cooperation in guidance and fusing techniques. The United States Navy representatives referred to the acute problem of attacking submerged submarines where the reentry problem still exists and the United Kingdom representative stated that they were not working in this particular field. In the ground-to-air missile discussion, the United Kingdom indicated they have a short range 20,000 yard missile which was Stage 1 in their old ground-to-air programme. However, subsequent stages have been abandoned and only their "Green Flax" programme survived. Thia particular missile has a A0 mile range, semi-active guidance with atomic warhead, scheduled for availability about 1962. The United Kingdom stressed the seriousness ef a low level threat and believed there was no good answer* gven with their Hawk Aircraft. Here again it was agreed it was an important area for combined planning aad research, particularly in guidance techniques. In the air-to-air field, since the United Kingdom policy is net to develop a fighter aircraft beyond the present generation with the "Blua•jay" missile, this subject was not discussed but cognizance was taken of the U.S. - Canadian cooperation in this activity. The desirability for the establishment of tripartite working parties to explore collaboration in research aad development in the various fields of interest of this sub-committee was recognized and it waa decided that thla would automatically receive consideration in the sub-coamittee (f) which is responsible for defence against ballistic missiles. 3. The Sub Committee on Defeat »ft*l««t Ballistic Missiles, met in the afternoon of A December 1957. The United Kingdom representative stated that the United Kingdom polioy is to ensure retaliatory power by developing its own Intermediate range ballistic missile with range improvement depending on the warhead. The United Kingdom ia dubious about the feasibility of active defence but ia considering a proposal for surveillance radar to be followed by conaideration of the tracking problem. However, the United Kingdom hope to maintain close contact with new U.S. missile developments In order to design any possible future active defence around them. The United States representative gave a lengthy exposition ef U.S. Early Warning aad active defenoe studies. The Early Warning System is to be implemented immediately aad the United States may implement an early active defence system based on Nike-Zeus in spite of the known deficiencies. Unlike tbe United Kingdom the United States are net prepared to admit publicly that the population cannot be defended against the intercontinental ballistic missile. The United States represeatative alao stated that the United States Air Foroe work on active defence consists of studies known to Canada, and referred to the excellent cooperation with Canada. The United States Defence Department is alao atudying the decoy problem and extending radio propagation studies to Include an atmosphere polluted by atomic explosions. The meeting agreed that there were many areas calling for researoh, acme ef which are receiving attention as exemplified by the United States Air Force - Canadian Defence Research Board programme. ***/3 �Document disclosed under the Access to Information Act Document divulgue en vertu de la Loi sur I'acces a I'information V m - 3 - • The United Kingdom representative stated that the United Kingdom is anxious to tap reoent U.S. advances in radar techniques and propose to send a party te the United States in the near future to discuss the United Kingdom surveillance radar proposal. It was agreed that while good exchange exists between the three countries en a bipartite basis it was most desirable that this be changed te a tripartite basis but whioh would net in aay way interfere with the bipartite method ef operation. It waa thought that development of this arrangement might be based on the present U.K. - U.S. ballistic missile policy committee on the seeretary level which is considered te work well. In this connection it should be pointed out that present Canadian research dees not bear on the major problems troubling the Unitfcd Kingdom which accounts for the reason why Dr. Robert Cockburn ef the United Kingdom was pressing hard for access to U.S. information. It was also noticed that Sir Frederick Brundrett ef the Uaited Kingdom consistently modified Dr. Cockburn's statements to draw Canada into any shared programmes. The United States representative announced that a decision had been reached te assign space travel, anti-missile aad missile researoh and development authority aad control of all funds te a non-service director in the United States Department of Defense Who may, however, continue te operate through existing Service agencies. 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