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THE OPENING MEETING WAS HELD AT THE PENTAGON THIS MORNIN^TO©^
LARGE REPRESENTATION FROM BOTH THE USA AND UK SIDES.GENERAL LOPER,
WHO AS YOU KNOW IS CHAIRMAN OF THE MILITARY LIAISON COMMITTEE OF THE
AEC,PRESIDED,FLANKED BY SIR FREDERICK BRUNDRETT,PERMANENT SCIENTIFIC
ADVISER TO THE UK MINISTRY OF DEFENCE,AND MYSELF.TO OPEN THE MEETING,
GENERAL LOPER REFERRED TO THE BACKGROUND OF THE EISENHOWER-MACMILLAN
TALKS,WHICH HAD BEEN FOLLOWED UP BY MEETINGS BETWEEN STRAUSS AND
PLOWDEN AND QUARLES AND POWELL.HE REFERRED PARTICULARLY TO A USA-UK
MEETING OF NOV23 AT WHICH TIME,IN EXPLORING WAYS AND MEANS OF COOPERATION IN THE DEFENCE FIELD MORE CLOSELY,IT HAD BEEN AGREED THAT TECHNICAL DISCUSSIONS SHOULD BE HELD TO SEE WHAT COULD BE DONE IN VARIOUS
SPECIFIED FIELDS.GENERAL LOPER REFERRED TO THE DECISION WHICH HAD
BEEN TAKEN JOINTLY TO INVITE THE CANADIAN GOVT TO PARTICIPATE IN THESE
FURTHER EXPLORATIONS AND TO THE ACCEPTANCE OF THIS INVITATION.IT
WAS HOPED TO BRING THE CANADIAN REPS IN"TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE
AND WITH DUE REGARD TO THE SUBJECT MATTER UNDER DISCUSSIONS. 0
BECAUSE OF THE LIMITATIONS UNDER EXISTING LEGISLATION,CANADIAN
REPRESENTATION WOULD BE WELCOMED IN ALL THE WORKING PARTIES WITH
THE EXCEPTION OF THOSE DEALING WITH NUCLEAR MATERIALS AND NUCLEAR
WARHEADS.THE CANADIANS,HOWEVER,WOULD BE WELCOMED AT ALL THE OTHER
WORKING PARTIES?INCLUDING SUBCOMMITTEE(D),WHICH IS TO DEAL WITH DELIVERY SYSTEMS).
2.AT THE SUGGESTION OF SIR FREDERICK BRUNDRETT,A NUMBER OF CHANGES
IN THE TIMETABLE WERE PROPOSED,WHICH MODIFY THE SCHEDULE TRANSMITTED
IN OUR TEL 2548,AND WE SHALL SEND YOU THE REVISED TIMETABLE
FOR YOUR INFO,BRUNDRETT ALSO PROPOSED GROUPING TOGETHER THE SUBJECTS
TO BE DISCUSSED UNDER ITEMS(I)AND&lt;J),AND THIS WAS AGREED.GENERAL
LOPER,IN REPLY TO A QUESTION FROM SIR WILLIAM PENNEY,CLARIFIED THAT
SUBCOMMITTEE(E)WOULD IN FACT BE DEALING WITH BIOLOGICAL,RADIOLOGICAL
AND CHEMICAL WARFARE,

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3,THERE WAS LITTLE OPPORTUNITY FOR GENERAL DISCUSSION.BRUNDRE'.T,
HOWEVERjDID RAISE THE QUESTION OF WHETHER THE USA AUTHORITIES '

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AGREE TO THE GENERAL STATEMENT OF OBJECTIVES WHICH HE SAID HAD*BEEN
SET OUT AT THE EARLIER MEETING OF N0V23 BY SIR RICHARD POWELL.HE
IDENTIFIED THIS STATEMENT BY REMINDING THE MEETING THAT THE UK STATEMENT HAD PROPOSED COOPERATION BETWEEN THE TWO GOVTS IN THE VARIOUS
FIELDS LISTED FOR THE PRESENT CONSULTATIONS,AND THE MOST EFFECTIVE
USE OF THE FACILITIES OF EACH IN THE COMMON INTEREST.THE UK BUDGET
PROVIED CERTAIN SUMS FOR RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT,AND THEY WISHED
TO SEE THE CLOSEST COOPERATION IN AVOIDING DUPLICATION AND IN MAKING
THE MOST EFFICIENT USE OF RESOURCES AND MANPOWER.IN REPLY,ADMIRAL
FOSTER,ASSISTANT GENERAL MANAGER FOR INTERNATIONAL ACTIVITIES OF THE
AEC,REFERRED BRIEFLY TO THE METHODS OF WORK OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES,
AS SUMARIZED IN THE SCHEDULE TRANSMITTED IN OUR REF TEL.WHILE HE WAS
HOPEFUL THAT THE AMENDMENTS TO THE ATOMIC ENERGY LEGISLATION ON WHICH
THEY WERE NOW WORKING WOULD INCREASE THE POSSIBILITIES OF COOPERATION,
I T HAD TO BE RECOGNIZED THAT UNTIL THE LAW WAS CHANGED,THE USA SIDE
WOULD NOT BE IN A POSITION TO ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS WHICH THE UK
SIDE MIGHT PUT TO THEM IN THE COURSE OF THE CURRENT EXCHANGES.
IN THIS CASE,HE SUGGESTED THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEES CONCERNED SHOULD
SIMPLY LIST THE QUESTIONS TO BE NOTED FOR FURTHER STUDY AND CONSIDERATION IN THE LIGHT OF ANY LEGISLATIVE ACTION WHICH MAY BE TAKEN IN
THE FUTURE.HE EXPLAINED THAT ANY RELUCTANCE ON THE USA SIDE IN .THIS
CONTEXT WOULD DERIVE ONLY FROM THE LIMITATIONS IMPOSED BY THE MANDATORY PROVISIONS OF PRESENT LEGISLATION.
4,GENERAL LOPER ADDED THAT SINCE THE USA POSITION IN THE FIELD OF
COOPERATION OM ATOMIC ENERGY MATTERS WAS UNDER CURRENT REVIEW,IT
WOULD BE NECESSARY IN THESE JOINT MEETINGS TO EXPLORE POSSIBLE AREAS
OF COOPERATION UNDER THREE POSSIBLE SETS OF CIRCUMSTANCES?
CDTHAT A MAJOR REVISION MAY BE MADE TO EXISTING LEGISLATION;
(2)THAT A MINOR REVISION MAY BE MADE|&lt;3)THAT NO REVISION AT ALL
MAY BE MADE.THIS WOULD BE THE MOST REALISTIC BASIS OF PLANNING,AND
EVEN UNDER THE THIRD ASSUMPTION,IT SHOULD STILL BE POSSIBLE TO EXPLORE
CERTAIN LIMITED MEANS OF COOPERATION MORE FULLY.

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WING THE REPORTS OF THE WORKING PARTIES,GENERAL LOPER INDICATED

THAT AT THE FRI MEETINGCAT WHICH STRAUSS AND QUARLES WERE EXPECTED
TO BE PRESENT)IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO SEE WHAT PROGRESS HAS BEEN
MADE AND WHAT THE NEXT STEPS SHOULD B E .
6.THROUGHOUT THE DISCUSSION AT THIS FIRST MEETING,THE EMPHASIS
WAS ON THE FACT THAT THESE WERE VERY MUCH FIRST STEPS,AT THE
SAME TIME,IT MUST BE RECOGNIZED THAT THERE I S IN FACT A CONSIDERABLE
BACKGROUND OF EXCHANGES BETWEEN THE USA AND THE UK,AND I HAVE ASKED
PRIVATELY FOR A COPY OF THE POLICY STATEMENT OF POWELL'S,TO WHICH
BRUNDRETT REFERRED,SINCE IT MAY THROW MORE LIGHT THAN HAS BEEN AVAILABLE SO FAR ON THE CENTRAL OBJECTIVES OF THE PRESENT ROUND OF D I S CUSSIONS.IN CONSULTATION WITH GENERAL SPARLING AND MEMBERS OF THE
JOINT STAFF,WE ARE ARRANGING TO MAN THE VARIOUS WORKING PARTIES TO
WHICH WE HAVE BEEN INVITED,AND I THINK THE POSITION CAN BE HELD
ON THIS BASIS UNTIL THE END OF THE WEEK.AS MATTERS SEEM TO BE
SHAPING UP,HOWEVER,MY VIEW I S THAT IT WOULD BE MOST USEFUL IF
ZIMMERMAN COULD BE AVAILABLE ON THURS TO MEET WITH OUR REPS ON THE
WORKING PARTIES AND TO BE PRESENT WHEN THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE
CONSIDERED AT THE GENERAL MEETING NOW PROPOSED FOR FRI
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