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SEP28

BERLIN-CON TIN GENCY PLANNING
OFOLLOWING IS A DETAILED ACCOUNT OF GEN NORSTADS
ATLANTIC COUNCIL THIS MORNING ON LIVE-OAK PLANNING.NORSTAD BEGAN
BY POINTING OUT THAT HE HAD REVEALED MUCH OF LIVE-OAK PLANNING
BEFORE WITHOUT REFERRING TO IT BY THAT NAME AND WITHOUT SPECIFIC
AUTHORIZATION TO DO SO.HE SAID THAT ANNEX A TO P0/61/765(PARA4

OF

OUR REFTEL)COVERED LIVE-OAK RATHER WELL.LIVE-OAK HAD NOT RPT NOT
EXTENDED TO PLANNING OF OPERATIONS WHICH COULD BE SAID TO BE OF A
MAJOR MILITARY SCOPE ON THE BASIS OF THE SIZE
INVOLVED.WIDER PLANNING,IE

OR NUMBER OF FORCES

PLANNING WITH A MAJOR MILITARY SCOPE,

TOOK PLACE ON A NATO,NOT RPT NOT A TRIPARTITE,BASIS.IT

IS TO THE

WIDER PLANNING THAT ANNEX B(PARA5 OUR REFTEL)REFERS.
2.THE

LIVE-OAK ORGANIZATION STARTED IN THE WINTER OF 1958-59

THE 1958

CRISIS

OVER BERLIN,ON A TRIPARTITE

WEST GERMANOBSERVER HAD PARTICIPATED.THE

AFTER

BASIS.MORE RECENTLY,A

TERMS OF REF FOR LIVE-OAK,

AS DESCRIBED ON A CHART DISPLAYED AT THE NEET ING, WERE: ( 1 )RECOMMEND
QUIET PRECAUTIONARY MILITARY MEASURES;(2)ASSIST
IN BClJN IN AIRLIFT

PLANNING:(3)PLAN

INITIAL

TIOOS IF ACCESS TO BERLIN WAS DENIED; (4)PLAN

THE THREE E~!BASSIES

PROBE OF SOVIET INTENFOR SUPPLEMENTARY

MILITARY EFFORTS.
3.IN

AN AMPLIFICATION,NORSTAD SAID THAT INCLUDED IN ITEM(l)IN

THESE TERMS OF REF WAS INTENSIFICATION
MAINTAINING SUPPLIES

OF NATO PRACTICE ALERTS;

FOR THE BERLIN GARRISON AT A TWELVE-MONTHLEVEL;

INCREASE PATROLLING OF EAST GERMANBORDERS BY UK AND USA;/-,$

8,:43--

SE IN AUTOBAHNTRAFF IC.
4.RE

ITEM(3),NORSTAD

SAID THAT LIVE-OAK HAD DEVELOPED PLANS TO DETER-

MINE WITHOUT QUESTION WHETHER THE ENEMY INTENDED TO USE FORCE TO

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PREVENTACCESSTO BERLIN.THECHARTTHATNORSTADDISPLAYEDAT THIS
POINT UNDERTHE HEADINGQUOTEPROBEOF SOVIET INTENTIONSUNQUOTE
PROVIDETDIN THE AIR FOR A PROBEBY ONE MILITARYTRANSPORT
FROMEACH
OF THE THREENATIONSANDFOR CIVILIAN TRANSPORTS
TO BE MANNED
BY
MILITARYCREWS;a-J THE GROUND
THEREWERETO BE SMALLTRIPARTITE CONVOYS.THE QUOTEGUIDINGPRINCIPLE UNQUOTE
SHOWNON THE BOTTOMOF THE
CHARTFOR THESE PROBESWASGIVENAS QUOTEWILL NOT RPT NOT FIRE
WNLESS FIRED UPONANDTHEN ONLYAS NECESSARYTO EXTRICATEITSELF
UNQUOTE.
SPEAKINGOF THESE PROBES,NORSTAD
SAID QUOTENONEOF THESE
PROBESHAVEENVISAGEDSUSTAINEDCOMBATUNQUOTE.HE
THENWENTON,
HOWEVE~TOWARNTHE COUNCILAS HE HADDONEIN THE PAST THAT,WHILE
FORCE WASIN CONTACTWITHFORCE,THEREWASALWAYS
DANGEROF LARGER
INVOLVEMENT
EVENTHOUGHINSTRUCTIONSSOUGHTTO MINIMIZE THIS DANGER.
THE DANGERREMAINED
NO RPT NO MATTERHOWSMALLTHE FORCE.WHILELIVEOAKPLANS HADNOT RPT NOT BEENCOORDINATED
IN A TECHNICAL
SENSE WITHNATOPLANS,THEYHADBEEN DEVELOPED
TO BE CONSISTENTWITH
THEM:THEFACT THATNORSTADHADLIVE-OAK UNDERHIS CONTROLWASA
GUARANTY
OF THIS.
5.TUR-JING NEXT TO ITEM(4),SUPPLEivJENTARY
MILITARYEFFORTS,NORSTAD
POINTED OUT THATTHIS WASBASEDON RATHERLARGERFORCES.HIS CHART
SAID THATTHE PURPOSEWOULD
BE TO QUOTETEST THE RANGEOF FORCE THE
USSR WASREADYTO APPLY UNQUOTE,AND
STATEDTHATTHE OBJECTIVEWAS
QUOTETO DEMONSTRATE
DETERMINATION
TO REACTWITHFORCE OR TO TEST
THE RANGEOF FORCE THE SOVIETS ARE READYTO APPLY UNQUOTE.FOR
THIS
PURPOSE,IN THE AIR NORSTADENVISAGEDTHE USE OF FIGHTERS TO SUPPORT
AIR PROBESANDTHE USE OF FIGHTERS TO SUPPORTGROUND
OPERATIONS.CN
LAND,ATRIPARTITE BATTALIONPROBEWOULD
BE INVOLVED.STUDY
HADTAKEN
PLACE OF THE POSSIBILITY OF EMPLOYING
A TRIPARTITE DIV.NORSTADALSO
SAID THATCONSIDERATION
HADBEEN GIVEN TO THE POSSIBILITY OF EXPANDINGTHE NUMBEROF COUNTRIESINVOLVEDBEYONDTHREE,BUTHE THOUGHT
THIS PROBLEMFELL UNDERANNEXB.NORSTADREMARKED
THATHE THOUGHT
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THERE WASA BASIS FOR MAINTAININGTHE LIVE-OAK GROUP:THEREWERE
LEGAL AND OTHERREASONSWHYTHERE MUSTBE A BASIS FOR A TRIPARTITE
EFFORT.HE DREWATTENTIONTO THE FACT THAT ON THE PROBE LEVEL
PLANNINGWAS NOT RPT NOT ON A NATIONALBASIS BUT TRIPARTITE,GIVING
IT AN QUOTEALLIED FLAVOURUNQUOTE.
6.TURNING TO AIRLIFT OPERATIONSCITEM
2 IN HIS TERMS OF REF)NORSTADS
CHART SHOWEDA NUMBEROF ALTERNATIVES:Cl)A GARRISONAIRLIFT;(2)A
CIVILIAN AIRLIFTCSUBSTITUTINGMILITARY FOR CIVILIAN TRANSPORT);
(3)QUOTE TRIPLE PLAY UNQUOTE&lt;THE
AIR EVACUATIONOF ALLIED NONCOMBATTANTS
AND OTHERSFROMWEST BERLIN IN 36 HOURS);(4)QUOTE Q-BALL
UNQUOTE&lt;FULL
ALLIED AIRLIFT IN SUPPORTOF WEST BERLIN).NORSTADSAID
THAT THE THREE AMBASSADORS
IN BONNHADSPECIAL RESPONSIBILITY RELATING TO AIRLIFT PLANNING,BUTOBVIOUSLYIT WASTHE MILITARY COMMAND
STRUCTUREWHICHWOULDHAVETO CARRYOUT THE OPERATION.
7.CONTINUING WITH HIS ORAL PRESENTATION,NORSTAD
SAID THAT IN RECENT
WEEKS HE HAD TAKENSTEPS TO INCREASEPREPAREDNESS,FOREXAMPLEBY

.

ESTABLISHING A LIVE-OAK OPERATIONSAND INFO CENTREWHICHCOLLECTED
INFO CONCERNINGINCIDENTS AND OTHERMATTERSOF INTEREST TO THE LIVEOAK PLANNERS,FOLLOWED
TRENDSAND COULDMAKERECOMMENDATIONS.IF
NECESSARY,THEOPERATIONSAND INFO CENTRECOULDASSUMESOMEOPERATIONAL
RESPONSIBILITY OR AT LEAST ASSIST WITH IT.NORSTAD EMPHASIZEDIT AS
HIS PERSONALVIEW THAT IF A PROBE WERENEEDEDIT WOULDBE BETTER TO
CONTROLIT THROUGHNATOCOMMAND
CHANNELS.HEHAD ALSO ACTIVATEDAN
AIR COMMAND
POST,SITUATED AT RAMSTEIN,ANDSTAFFED BY TRIPARTITE REPS,
WITH THE DUTYOF EVALUATINGTRAFFIC IN THE AIR CORRIDORSAND ASSESSING INCIDENTS.IT TOO WASCAPABLEOF EXERCISING OPERATIONAL
CONTROL.AFEW TRANSPORTANDFIGHTER AIRCRAFT WEREKEPT ON THE ALERT
TO REACT QUICKLYTO ANYRELOCKINGOF AIR TRANSPORTARRANGEMENTS.
THERE WASA CAPABILITY TO USE MILITARY OR CIVILIAN AIRCRAFT WITH OR
WITHOUTFIGHTER ESCORT IN SUCH A REACTION.HESPOKE OF THE INTRODUCTION RECENTLYOF A NEWFIGHTER AIRCRAFTWHICHWOULDBE QUOTEUSEF'UL•••• 4•

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IN THIS OPERATIONUNQUOTE.THE
EXACTIMPLICATIONOF THIS TERMWAS
NOT RPT NOT CLEAR;BUTSIGNIFICANCEMIGHTBE ATTACHED
TO IT BECAUSE
HIS REF WASSO POINTEDBUT AT THE SAMETIME SO VAGUE.THESEAIRCRAFT
ARE KEPT ON CONSTANTALERT,SOMREOF THEMON FIFTEEN-MINUTENOTICE,
SOME ON THIRTY-MINUTE,SOME
ON ONE-HOURANDSOMEON SIX-HOUR.THEY
WEREREADYTO MEETA SITUATION QUICKLYANDEFFECTIVELY.
8.LIVE-OAK IS CONSIDERINGANDREVIEWINGEAST GERMAN
MEANSOF INTERFERENCEWITH GROUND
ANDAAIR TRAFFIC ANDMEANSOF REACTINGPROMPTLY
TO SUCH INTERFERENCE.NORSTAD
SAID THAT EXPERIENCETHIS SUMMER
HAD
CONVINCEDHIM THAT IT WASPOSSIBLE TO REACTAT ONCEMORESAFELYAND
ON A SMALLERSCALE THANAFTER A DELAY.HEWASTHEREFOREKEEPING
FORCES IN POSITION FOR RAPID RESPONSEHO ANYACTIONBY THE OTHER
SIDE.REFERRING TO THE RELATIONSHIPOF LIVE-OAK TO NATOPLANNING,
NORSTADASSUREDTHE COUNCILTHAT IN HIS DUALCAPACITYHE HAD
ALWAYS
MADESURE ANDWOULDALWAYS
MAKESURE THAT LIVE-OAK PLANS
WOULDCOMPLEMENT
ANDSUPPLEMENT
NATOPLANS,NOTRPT NOT CONFLICT
WITH THEM.NATOMUSTBECOMEFULLY INVOLVEDIN°ANY LARGERPLANS FROM
THE FIRST MINUTE.
9.THE DISCUSSION WHICHFOLLOWED
THIS PRESENTATIONANDNORSTADS
QUESTIONOF A NEWEXERCISE TO FOLLOWUP QUOTEOPERATIONLONGTHRUST
UNQUOTEWHICHWASCANCELLED
LAST MAYARE THE SUBJECT OF SEPARATETELS.•

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WEARE REPORTINGHIS FORMALBRIEFING IN A SEPARATEMSG.
2.IN INTRODUCING
THE DISCUSSIONSECGENSAID THATHE REGARDED
TODAYS
SESSIOOAS ONEDSIGNEDPRIMARILYTO ELICIT FURTHERINFO.HE THEN
SET OUTHIS OWNINTERPRETATION
OF THE TWOANNEXES
TO THE DOCU.ANNEX
A,THE REPORTOF THE THREEGOVTS,WAS
NOT RPT NOT IN HIS ESTIMATION
00 E

WHICHCOUNCILCOMMENT
WASNECESSARILYREQUIRED.
IT WAS

REPORTING
ACTIONOF THE THREEGOVTSTO PLANFOR THE DEFENCEOF THEIR
OCCUPATION
FORCESIF ATTACKED
IN BERLIN.HETHOUGHT
THE THREEGOVTS,
AS ANYOTHERINDIVIDUALGOVTREPRESENTED
IN NATO,HADTHE RIGHTAND
THE DUTYTO PLANFOR THE DEFENCEOF THEIR OWNFORCESIF ATTACKED.

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TO NATOMILITARYAUTHORITIESWASDIFFERiNT

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IT WEREADOPTEDBY COUNCILALL EARLIERINSTRUCTIONS
TO NATOCOMMANDERSWITH.RESPECTTO BERLINWOULD
BE WITHDRAWN
ANDTHEREAFTER
ANY
CHANGESWHICHMIGHTBE DESIREDIN LIVE OAKPLANNINGWOULD
BE DEVELOPEDIN NATONO RPT NO MATTERFROMWHERETHE INITIATIVE FOR CHANGE
MIGHTCOME.IF THIS WASTHE CASE WECOULDFORGETTHE PROBLEM
WHICH

I

HADBEENPOSEDBY THE ACTIVITIES OF THE AMBASSADORIAL
STEERINGGROUP
IN WASHOC.HE
MADETWOFURTHERGENERALPOINTS.POLITICALDIRECT:VEAND
STRATEGICCONCEPTWERETHE GUIDINGDOCUSFOR NATOMILITARYPLANNING
ANDNO RPT NO PLANSINVOLVING
NATOFORCESSHOULDBE MADEWHICHDID
NOT RPT NOT COMEWITHINTHE AMBITOF THESETWODOCUS.HEDID NOT RPT
NOT THINKTHATTHE PLANNINGTOUCHED
ON IN EITHER ANNEXA ORB HAD
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IN FACT

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GONE BEYOND THE LIMITS

BELIEVED

THAT THE MILITARY

PLANS

SEEMED NECESSARY

TICAL

DIRECTIVE

AUTHORITIES

CONCEPT.NO

CRISIS

PRIMARILY

FOR PLANS TO DEFEND THE ALLIANCE

THE MILITARY

RPI

NO MATTER WHAT

COlvJMANDERS WERE RESPONSIBLE
WITHIN

THE TERMS OF THE

DOCUS.

3.AFTER
THIS

ARISE,

TO MAKE WHATEVER

THE BROAD CONCEPT OF THE POLI-

IMMEDIATE

BASIC

MIGHT

HAD THE RIGHT

TO THEM WITHIN

AND THE STRATEGIC

DOCUS.SECONDLY,HE

NORSTADS

POINT,A

WHICH MIGHT

BRIEFING

SERIES

ON LIVE

OAK PLANNING

OF QUESTIONS

BETTER

WERE RAISED

BE REPORTED IN

WHICH TOOK PLACE AT

BY COUNCIL

MEMBERS

SEQUENCE RATHER THAN ATTEMPTING

TO GROUP THEM UNDER GENERAL HEADINGS.
4.ITALIAN
MILITARY

ACTION

CONSULTATION

WOULD IN THE THREE .POWERS VIEW

WITH NATO. DID THE IDEA

FOR EXAMPLE, THE SMALL SCALE
REPLY WAS TO THE EFFECT
OF PLANS

OF PREVIOUS

THAT THE QUESTION

PREVIOUS

CONSULTATION

HE DID

ON THIS

SUBJECT

INVOLVED
HIS

THE IMPLEMENTATION
SCOPE OF RESPO.'J

HE WOULD CERTAINLY

ANY PLAN OF MILITARY

NOT RPT NOT KNOW OF ANY DECISION
BY ANY POLITICAL

HOPE THAT

ACTION

IF

GOVERN

PARA 3 .N ORSTADS

HAD BEEN CHARGED ONLY WITH DRAWING UP PLANS.HE

TO SAY HOWEVER THAT
BEEN TAKEN

REQUIRE

PROBES REFERRED TO IN

WHICH WAS NOT RPT NOT PROPERLY WITHIN

SIBILITIES.HE

MIND

OF

REP REFERRED TO PARA 8 OF ANNEX A AND ASKED WHAT SIZE

AUTHORITIES.

HE WAS REQUIRiD

HE COULD BE EMPOWERED TO

IN

WENT ON
THAT

HIS

HAD

OWN

TU IMPLEMENT

DO SO

THROUGH

NATO COMMAND CHANNELS AND NOT RPI NOT THROUGH SOME OTHER CHANNELS.
SEC GEN SAID
PLANS

1

THAT

IT

AT THE POINT

WAS HIS

VIEW

THAT

AT WHICH THEY MIGHT

PARA 8 WAS MEANT TO COVER ALL
HAVE TO BE HiPLEMENTED.USA,

FRENCH AND UK REPS AGREED.
5.SECGEN

THEN ASKED WHETHER IT

POSSIBLE

USE OF CORPS FORMATIONS

AT THE MOMENT.NORSTAD
THAN A DIV

WAS BEING

SAID

THAT

WAS TRUE THAT PLANNING
WAS BEING

THE

DONE ONLY ON A USA BASIS

ANY PLANNING

DONE ON A NATO BASISCAS

INVOLVING

INVOLVING
DISTINCT,WE

UNITS

LARGER

PRESUME,

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FROMLIVE OAKOR TRIPARTITE BASIS).
6.1 PUT MYFIRST QUESTIONSIN THE CONTEXTOF A FEW GENERALREMARKS
EMPHASISINGIN THE FIRST INSTANCETHAT IT WOULD
BE IMPOSSIBLEFOR
MY AUTHORITIESTO CONSIDERTHE ISSUES INVOLVEDANDBE IN A POSITia~
TO GIVE DECISIVE COMMENTS
UNDERTHE PROPOSEDTIMETABLE,IE BY NEXT
WEEK.THEPLANS REFERREDTO IN THESE PAPERS HADBEEN IN GESTATION
FOR SOMEMONTHS.
OURAUTHORITIESWOULD
REQUIREMORETHANA FEW DAYS
TO DIGEST THEM.TURNING
THENTO PARA8 OF ANNEXA I SAID THAT SINCE
IT WASA REPORTBY THE THREE POWERSWE WOULD
NOT RPI NOT PROBABLY
BE EXPECTEDTO CONSIDERREDRAFTINGIT.WE MIGHTHOWEVER
EXPRESS OUR
VIEWS 00 ITS SUBSTANCE.
IT STRUCKt'iE,FOR EXAMPLE,
THATTHE FIRST
SENTENCEOF PARASHOULDBE PUT IN MUCHMOREPOSITIVE TERMS.THETHREE
GOVTSWOULD
RECOGNIZETHATTHE IMPLEMENTATION
OF LIVE OAKPLANS
WOULD
UNDOUBTEDLY
HAVEPOLITICAL AS WELLAS MILITARY IMPLICATIONS
FOR NATO.INDEEDTHE PROBINGHADALREADYSTARTEDWHENUSA GARRISOO
IN BERLIN WASINCREASED.THISPROE HADALREADYHAD ITS POLITICAL
EFFECT ON THE SITUATION.WEMIGHTASK AS WELLWHAT·
WASTHE SIGNIFICANCEOF QUOTETIME PERMITTINGUNQUOTE
IN THE SECOND.SENTENCEOF
THE PARA.TIMEWASALWAYS
A FACTORWITH RESPECTTO MILITARYACTIVITIES.
NOOEOF US WOULD
WISH TO PREVENTNECESSARYACTIONSBUT WE MUST
CLARIFY AS MUCHAS POSSIBLE WHATTHE INTENTIONOF ALL CONCERNED
WAS.
WASIT SATISFACTORY,FOR
EXAMPLE,TOALL MEMBERS
OF ThE COUNCILTHAT
THIS ESCAPECLAUSESHOULDEXIST.WOULDIT NOT RPI NOT BE BETTERTHAT
COUNCILMEMBERS
SPOULDBE BETTERINFORMED
CONCERNING
THE ~UOTECATALOGUEOF PLANS UNQUOTE
REFERREDTO IN ANNEXBIN ORDERTHATTHEIR
GOVTSCOULDPERHAPSTAKEDECISIONS IN ADVANCE
WITH RESPECTTO SOME
OF THESE PLANS.IT WOULD
NOT RPT NOT OF COURSEBE PROPERFOR ME
TO RESERVE THE C DN GOVTS POSIT ION WITH HESP ECT TO A REPORT CONTA IN ING

THE VIEWS OF THE THREE GOVTS.I COULDHOWEVER
WARNTHE COUNCILTHAT
THEREWERECOMPLICATIONS
AHEADIF IT WASINTENDEDTHAT TH£
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IMPLEMENTATION
OF PLANS WHICHCOULDAFFECT THE ALLIANCEDEEPLY
WASTO TAKEPLACEWITHOUTTHERE HAVINGBEENCONSULTATION
ANDCONSENT
IN THE COUNCIL.
6.SECGEN ANDREPS OF USA ANDUK TOGETHERGAVEA FAIRLY SATISFACTORY
ANSWERTO THIS LAST QUESTION.THEY
ALL AGREEDTHATTHE INTENTIONOF
THE PHRASEWASTO PROVIDEFOR THE ABILITY SITUATIONSWHEREIMMEDIATE
ACTIONWASFORCEDUPONA MILITARYCOMMANDER
BY EVENTS.FOREXAMPLE,IF
AN AIRCRAFTWASFIRED ON PLANNINGWOULD
HAVETO PROVIDEFOR THE
ABILITY TO RESPONDIMMEDIATELY.USA
REP EXPLAINEDHIS THINKINGIN
THIS REGARDBY REFERRINGTO A PEARL HARBOUR
TYPE OF SITUATIONWHERE
NECESSARYDEFENSIVEACTIONHADTO BE TAKENIMMEDIATELY.PARA
8 WAS
NOT RPT NOT INTENDEDTO LEAVETHE IMPRESSIONTHAT THEREWOULD
BE TWO
KINDS OF CONSULTATION, a'J E BETWEEN
THE THREEPOWERSANDTHE OTHER
WITH THE COUNCILAS A WHOLE.THISLAST COMMENT
MADEBY USA REP WAS
IN DIRECT RESPONSETO BELGIANREPS POINT THAT IF THEREWASTIME
FOR THE THREE GOVTSTO CONSULTTHERE WASTIME FOR THE COUNCILTO BE
CCNSULTED.
?.NETHERLANDSREP LED OFF THE QUESTIONINGWITH RESPECTTO ANNEXB
IN ASKINGWHETHER
IN NORSJADSVIEW THE THREECIRCUMSTANCES
OUTLINED
IN PARA6 D FITTED WITHIN THE POLITICAL DIRECTIVE ANDTHE STRATEGIC
CONCEPT.NORSTAD
SAID THAT BEFOREREPLYINGTO THIS PARTICULARQUESTION
HE WOULD
LIKE TO FIT THE DOCUIN SOMEPERSPECTIVE.HEHADHEARD
ABOUTTWOMONTHSAGOOF A POSSIBLE DIRECTIVE WHICHMIGHTBE PREPARED
ANDHADTAKENTHE VIEW THAT HE DID NOT RPI NOT NEED A NEWDIRECTIVE
SO FAR AS HIS MILITARYRESPONSIBILITIES WERECONCERNED
AT LEAST.HE
UNDERSTOOD
THATOTHERFACTORSHOWEVER
HADMADESUCHA DIRECTIVE
NECESSARY.HEHADSEEN A DRAFTDIRECTIVE SOMETWOWEEKSAGOAND
COULDSAY THATTHE PRESENTDRAFTWASA VAST IMPROVEMENT
OVERTHAT
ORIGINALDOCUEVENTHOUGHHE WOULD
HAVEWRITTENIT DIFFERENTLY
.THE
IMPORTANT
THING IN HIS MIND WASTHAT DOCUAS DRAFTERPERMITTEDA
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BROADRANGEOF INTERPRETATIONANDHE WOULDBE THE ONE WHOWOULD
HAVETO INTERPRET IT IN THE FIRST INSTANCE.HECOULDASSURE
COUNCILTHAT ANY INTERPRETATIONHE WOULDGIVE IT WOULDBE FULLY
WITHIN THE TERMSOF THE POLITICAL DIRECTIVE ANDWOULJSE CONSISTENT
WITH ESTABLISHEDSTRATEGICDOCTRINE.HEWOULDOF COURSEGO FURTHER
IN HIS MILITARY PLANNING.FOREXAMILE,MEASURES
OUTLINEDIN PARA 10
WEREIN HIS VIEW ONLYSOMEOF THE MEASURESWHICHHADTO BE CONSIDEREDTO PUT NATOFORCES IN A POSITION TO COPE WITH A MILITARY
EMERGENCY.HE
HADALREADYDIRECTEDHIS SUBORDINATE
COMMANDERS
TO
PREPARESUCH PLANS AS THEY THOUGHT
WERENECESSARYFOR A MILITARY
EMERGENCY
ANDWHILE THEY INCLUDEDTHE MEASURESOUTLINED
N!PARA 10
THEY WERENOT RPT NOT LIMITED TO THEM.HEMADEIT CLEARTHAT HE WAS
SPEAKING IN TERMSOF PLANS WITH A NATO-WIDEAPPLICATIONANDNOT
RPI NOT IN TERMSOF LIVE OAKPLANNING.SOFAR AS THE SPECIFIC QUESTION
PUT BY NELHERLANDS
REP WASCONNERNED,HE
COULDONLYSAY THAT AN INCONSISTENCY WITH NATODIRECTIVES AS HE UNDERSTOOD
THEMWOULDONLYEXIST
IF PARA 6D WEREREADAS BEING RESTRICTIVE IN

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THE PLANNEDRECOURSE

TO NUCLEARWEAPONS.INOTHERWORDSIF THE SUBPARAMEANTTHAT ONLYUNDER
THESE THREE CONDITIONSCOULDNUCLEARWEAPONSBE USED HE WOULDTHINK
SUCH AN INTERPRETATIONRESTRICTIVE AND INCONSISTENTWITH THE STRATEGIC CONCEPTAS HE UNDERSTOOD
IT.
8.I

FOLLOWED
UP WITH THE QUESTIONSPECIFICALLY CONCERNING
SUBPARA

6DEMDIDTHIS IN GEN NORSTADSMINDSPECIFICALLY FALL WITHIN THE STRATEGIC CONCEPT.I WASTHINKINGIN TERMSOF POSSIBLE EFFECT OF USE OF
A QUOTENUCLEARSHOT ACROSSTHE BOWUNQUOTE.ONE
POSSIBLE OUTCOME
WAS
THE RAPID ESCALATIONSUGGESTEDEARLIER IN THE PAPER INTO A NUCLEAR
EXCHANGE.THISWASA RESULTWE DID NOT RPT NOT WANT.ONEOTHER
POSSIBLE RESULTWASTHAT THE"OTHERSIDE WOULDNOT RPT NOT RESPOND
ANDTHEN THE WESTWOULDBEARTHE ODIUMBEFOREWORLDOPINION OF THE
FIRST USE OF NUCLEARWEAPONS.
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9. GENNORSTADSAID THAT HE THOUGHT
FIRST OF ALL THATTHE ACTION
COVEREDIN SUBPARA6 D3 WASCONSISTENTWITH NATODIRECTIVES.HE WENT
ON THENTO TRY TO ADDSOMEPERSPECTIVE.IT WASHIS VIEW THATUSE OF
NUCLEARWEAPONS
EVENSELECTIVELYCOULDBE CONSIDEREDONLYWHEN
EVERYTHING
ELSE HADFAILED,WHENPOLITICAL NEGOTIATIONSHADBROKEN
DOWN,
WHENECONOMIC
PRESSURESHADFAILED,WHENMINORPROBESHAD
FAILED TO CHANGETHE SITUATIONANDWHENFORCES HADACTUALLY
BEEN
FI RED ON.NO RPI NO MATTERHOWf1UCHWASSAID ABOUTTH:C::SE
PROBLEMS
EVENTUALLY
WECAf'1EBACKTO THE SAMEROOTPROBLEl'&lt;l,
WHENGOV
TS WOULD
BE FACEDWITH A DECISION TO ACCEPTDEFEATOR TO TAKENUCLEARACTION.
HE HOPEDTHEREFORETHATWHENCOUNCILWASCONSIDERINGTHIS PARTICULAR
ASPECT THEYWOULD
CONSIDERIT IN THIS LIGHT,NAMELY
THATALL OTHER
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