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FM WSHDC MAR22/68
EXTER 1 2 9 4
INFO CANFORCEHED
PCO DE OTT
NORTHAMERICAN AIR DEFENSElDISCUSSION AT CDA-USA INTERPARLIAMENTARY
GROUP MTG
FOLLOWING I S EXTRACT FROM REPORT OF CTTEE ON DEFENCE AND,SECURITY
MATTERS OF CDA-USA PARLIEMENTARIANS MTG MAR21-22.TEXT BEGINS:
USA CHAIRMAN OPENED THE SECOND SESSION BY SUGGESTING A DISCUSSION
OF THE NORTHAMERICAN AIR DEFENSE AGREEMENTNORAD).HE RECALLED
THAT THE AGREEMENT EXPIRES ON MAY12 AND THAT IT WAS DESIRABLE
THAT THERE BE AN EVALUATION OF THE THREAT AND THE WEAPONS AVAILABLE
TO MEET THAT THREAT.
A CDN DEL SAID THAT THE GOVT OF CDA MADE CLEAR ITS INTENTION TO
RENEW THE AGREEMENT BUT ALSO MADE CLEAR THAT IT DOES NOT/NOT
WISH TO PARTICIPATE IN THE ABM SYSTEM.
A CDN DEL MENTIONED THAT HE WAS NOT/NOT OPPOSED IN PRINCIPLE
TO AN ANTI-BOMBER DEFENSE SYSTEM BUT QUESTIONED WHETHER OR NOT/NOT
AN ACTIVE ANTI-BOMBER DEFENSE I S WARRANTED IN TERMS OF ITS FINANCIAL
COST.QUOTING A RECENT SPEECH BY SECRETARY OF DEFENSE MCNAMARA
WHICH MENTIONED THAT ANTI-BOMBER DEFENSE ALONE COULD NOT/NOT
SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE DESTRUCTION IF AN ATTACK OCCURRED,IT WAS
MENTIONED THAT IF SUCH WERE THE CASE CDA DID NOT/NOT THINK THAT
IT COULD AFFORD THE CONTINUATION OF SUCH AN ANTI-BOMBER
DEFENSE SYSTEM.
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IT WAS ALSO POINTED OUT BY A CDN DEL THAT THE MAJOR DEFENSE OF
THE AMERICAN CONTINENT WAS NOT/NOT ANY OF THE PURELY DEFENSE
MEASURES THAT ARE TAKEN BUT RATHER THE TREMENDOUS OFFENSIVE
POWER OF USA AND THAT THEREFORE AN ANTI-BOMBER DEFENSE SYSTEM
MIGHT BE QUITE OBSOLETE IN FACT.
THE MEMBERS OF USA AND CDN DELEGATIONS REITERATED THE VIEW
THAT THE BOMBER THREAT FROM THE USSR CONTINUES TO BE AN ACTIVE
THREAT AGAINST THE NORTHAMERICAN CONTINENT AND THAT A DEFENSE
WEAPONRY.INDEED,USA HAD LEARNED THE LESSON THAT A DEFENSE AGAINST
MORE CONVENTIONAL WEAPONS,IN THIS CASE THE MANNED BOMBER,WAS
AS IMPORTANT AS A DEFENSE AGAINST MORE ADVANCED THREATS.
IN THIS DISCUSSION,THE MEMBERS OF USA DEL RPTDLY EMPHASIZED
THAT USA WOULD WANT CDA TO EXERCISE COMPLETE SOVEREIGNTY OVER
ITS TERRITORY;AND THAT IT WOULD NOT/NOT WISH IN ANY WAY TO IMPOSE
ON THAT SOVEREIGNTY I F CDA SHOULD CHOOSE TO DENY THE USE OF ITS
TERRITORY TO THE JOINT DEFENSE OF THE CONTINENT.
ONE CDN DEL MENTIONED THAT THE EASTCOAST OF CDA HAD NO/NO DEFENSE
SYSTEM TO PROTECT IT AGAINST SOVIET SUBMARINES AND SUGGESTED THAT
THE NORAD AGREEMENT MIGHT BE MODIFIED TO ENCOMPASS NOT/NOT ONLY
AIR DEFENSE SYSTEMS BUT ALSO MEASURES AGAINST SEA AND UNDERWATER
THREATS.IT WAS POINTED OUT THAT ALTHOUGH THERE HAVE BEEN IN THE
RECENT PAST SEVEN PENETRATIONS INTO CDN CONTROLLED AIR SPACE FROM
SOVIET BOMBERS THERE WAS ALSO EVIDENCE THAT SOVIET SUBMARINES
WERE POSITIONED AROUND THE COAST OF CDA,PERHAPS EVEN IN HUDSON BAN.
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T H I S , I N THE OPINION OF THE CDN DEL WAS A MUCH GREATER THREAT TO
CDA THAN BOMBERS.
IN THE FIELD OF ANTI-SUBMARINE WARFARE,A MEMBER OF USA DEL
EMPHASIZED,USA-CDN COOPERATION WAS ALSO ESSENTIAL.THERE NEEDED
TO BE A TRUE JOINT EFFORT IN THE ANTI-SUBMARINE WARFARE FIELD
PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF THE INCREASING SOVIET SUBMARINE THREAT.
THE MEMBERS OF USA DEL THEN REVIEWED THE AIR AND SPACE THREAT
TO THE NORTHAMERICAN CONTINENT AS THEY SAW IT.THEY WERE CONVINCED,
AND INFORMED BY USA MILITARY ESTABLISHMENT,THAT THE SOVIET BOMBER
THREAT WOULD CONTINUE TO EXIST AT LEAST INTO THE M I D - 7 0 S . I N
ADDITION TO THIS,THE USSR WOULD ALWAYS HAVE AN EFFECTIVE ICBM
THREAT.WHILE MEMBERS OF USA DEL HAD SERIOUS RESERVATIONS ABOUT
AN ABM SYSTEM,PARTICULARLY BECAUSE OF ITS HIGH COST THEY RECOGNIZED THAT USA HAD TO MAINTAIN ITS RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT IN
THIS FIELD AS WELL AS IN OFFENSIVE WEAPONRY AND CONSIDERED THAT
THE DEPLOYMENT OF THE SO-CALLED THIN ABM SYSTEM WAS PRIMARILY
DESIGNED TO CONTINUE EFFECTIVE USA DEVELOPMENT OF THIS
WEAPON. OTHERWISE,THE USSR WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE FAR AHEAD
OF USA IN THIS FIELD.IN THIS CONNECTION,THE MEMBERS OF USA DEL
EMPHASIZED THAT THE USSR HAD REFUSED ON RPTD OCCASIONS TO DISCUSS
USA PROPOSED MUTUAL LIMITATION ON THE FURTHER DEVELOPMENT OF
ABM/ICBM SYSTEMS,TEXT ENDS.

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