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INFO LDN PRIORITY TT WSHDC DISARMDELGVA PRMNY BRU HAGUE BONN
ROME PARIS PRIORITY DE LDN
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MTG OF DISARMAMENT EXPERTS WITH PACt ITEM II-FURTHER ARMS CONTROL
ARRANGEMENTS
SCOVILLEC USA) INTRODUCED SU3J UNDER THREE 3R0AD HEADSC A) MEASURES
TO CONTROL STRATEGIC NUCLEAR ARMS RACEC 3 ) C U T - 0 F F , AND(C&gt;COMPREHENSIVE

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2 . ONC A) SCOVILLE SAID THAT SO FAR USA HAD BEEN UNSUCCESSFUL IN
ENGAGING USSR IN DISCUSSIONS.HE WENT ON TO EXPLAIN THAT BECAUSE
OF NEW WEAPONS SYSTEMS IN OFFING,PRESENT WAS VERY CRITICAL PERIOD
IN ARMS RACE SINCE IT APPEARED WE WERE LEAVING PERIOD OF RELATIVE
STABILITY FOR ONE OF GREATER UNCERTAINTY IN WHICH INCENTIVES TO jQ
STRIKE FIRST WOULD BE GREATER. INTRODUCTION OF MIRVS IS MAIN
CONTRIBUTION TO INCREASED UNCERTAINTY, BUT FOBS AND MOBS ALSO PLAY
A PART. HE WAS AT PAINS TO EMPHASIZE THAT USA DECISION TO DEPLOY
LTD ABMS HAD NOT/NOT DIMINISHED USA DESIRE FOR TALKS WITH RUSSIANS
AND STATED CATEGORICALLY THAT PRESSURE FOR TALKS WOULD CONTINUE.
HE EXPRESSED SOME HOPE THAT OBLIGATION IN NPT TO LIMIT ARMS RACE
MIGHT SERVE AS FULCRUM FOR BRINGING GREATER PRESSURE ON USSR TO
ENGAGE IN MEANINGFUL NEGOTIATIONS.

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3.SC0VILLE DESCRI3ED QUOTE CUT-OFF UNQUOTE AS PARALLEL TO NPT
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PAGE TWO 5 0 5 CONFD
IN THAT IT WOULD APPLY TO NUCLEAR WEAPON STATES AND, IF ACCEPTED,
WOULD INVOLVE MANDATORY IAEA CONTROLS ON PRODUCTION OF FISSI0NA3LE
MATERIAL FOR PEACEFUL PURPOSES WITHIN NUCLEAR STATES PARTIES TO I T .
AGAIN HE THOUGHT THAT CONCLUSION OF NPT PROVIDED GOOD OPPORTUNITY
TO RENEW PRESSURE ON USSR TO ACCEPT CUT-OFF.
4 . DISCUSSION OF CT3 WAS RATHER PERFUNCTORY WITH SCOVILLE EMPHASIZING
THAT USA DOES NOT/NOT REGARD THIS MEASURE AS QUOTE INDEPENDENTLY
ADEQUATE UNQUOTE.PROGRESSC OR LACK OF IT) IN CONTROLLING STRATEGIC
NUCLEAR WEAPONS SYSTEMS WOULD BE IMPORTANT FACTOR IN INEVITABLE
PRESSURES FOR CONTINUED TESTING WHICH WOULD ACCOMPANY FUTURE PERIOD
OF DEVELOPING TECHNOLOGY WITH INTRODUCTION OF NEW WEAPONS. HE TOUCHED
BRIEFLY ON NEW SEISMIC ARRAY IN NORWAY FROM WHICH DATA WOULD
SHORTLY BE AVAILA3LE AND MENTIONED SIPRI DEVELOPMENTS WHICH ARE
FAMILIAR FROM RECENT MSGS FROM STKHM AND GENEV.
5 . IN DISCUSSION WHICH FOLLOWED, 3RIT REP(CULLIS)POSED NUMBER OF
QUESTIONS ABOUT PROGRESS IN VERIFICATION OF TECHNIQUES, REFERRING
SPECIFICALLY TO STRATEGIC NUCLEAR ARMS RACE AND,(IN RELATION TO
CUT-OFF)VERIFICATION OF INSOTOPE SEPARATION PLANTS FOR PRODUCTION
OF U - 2 3 5 . 0 N FIRST OF THESE, USA REP INDICATED THAT IN DISCUSSION
WITH RUSSIANS IT WAS USA INTENTION TO CONCENTRATE ON WEAPONS SYSTEMS
WHICH COULD BE VERIFIED BY NATL CAPA3ILITIESCOBSERVATION SATELLITES
OR OTHER MEANS) OR WHICH WOULD REQUIRE MINIMUM OF INTRUSION.AS FOR
ISOTOPE SEPARATION PLANTS, USA POINTED OUT THESE WERE LARGE, DIFFICULT
TO CONCEAL,USED HUGE 3L0CKS OF POWER AND WERE ALREADY KNOWN.
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WHILE NQ/NO INTERNATL VERIFICATION PROCEDURES NOW EXISTED, MATTER
HAD 3EEN RAISED BY USSR AT IAEA IN VIENN WITH USA SUPPORT AND SOME
ACTION COULD BE EXPECTED.USA HAS ALSO DONE SOME PRIVATE RESEARCH
AND THERE WERE HOPEFUL INDICATIONS THAT SUITABLE PROCEDURES COULD
BE DEVISED THOUGH PROBLEM WAS NOr/wOT YET SOLVED.
6.MAIN FACTOR MAKING FOR INSTABILITY OVER PERIOD AHEAD I S
INTRODUCTION OF MIRVS 3ECAUSE&lt; A) NUMBERS QF WARHEADS ARE SUBSTANTIALLY
INCREASED AND(3)WEAP0N ATTACKS COUNTER-FORCE TARGETS. THIS INCREASES
THE INCENTIVE TO RISK ALL ON A FIRST STRIKE. GREATEST DANCER, HOWEVER,
LIES I N MISCALCULATING OPPONENTS CAPA3ILITY AND OVER-REACTING IN
ORDER TO COMPENSATE FOR HIS ASSUMED ADVANTAGE.SCOVILLE STRESSED
THAT NEW WEAPONS SYSTEMS MADE I T MORE NECESSARY THAN EVER TO REACH
ARMS CONTROL AGREEMENTS, BUT CONFESSED HE WAS NOT/NOT PERSONALLY
VERY OPTIMISTIC A30UT PROSPECTS FOR SUCCESS.SEVERAL SPEAKERS
COMMENTED ON DEVELOPING CHINESE NUCLEAR THREAT THOUGH I T WAS
RECOGNIZED THAT SENTINEL ABM SYSTEM SHOULD 3E ABLE TO HANDLE THIS
FOR NEXT DECADE.USA REPS DISCOUNTED P0SSI3LE SOVIET INTEREST IN
AGREEMENT ON TACTICAL NUCLEAR WEAPONS 3ECAUSE USSR HAD NOT/NOT PUT
GREAT EFFORT INTO DEVELOPING SUCH WEAPONS AND ALSO BECAUSE OF
SUBSTANTIAL VERIFICATION PROBLEM. THERE WAS SOME GENERAL DISCUSSION
OF PEACEFUL NUCLEAR EXPLOSIONS AND USA REPS SUGGESTED ANY PROPOSALS
FOR INTERNATL ARRANGEMENTS FOR PEACEFUL NUCLEAR EXPLOSIVE SVCS
SHOULD INCLUDE CONSIDERATION OF MODIFICATIONS NEEDED I N PARTIAL TEST
BAN TO PERMIT CARRYING OUT OF SUCH EXPLOSIONS WITHOUT BREACH OF
TREATY.ITALIANS SEEMED PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN FUTURE
DEVELOPMENTS IN THIS AREA.
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