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ABM DEPLOYMENT
DEBATE ON QUESTION OF BALLISTIC MISSILE DEFENCEC BMD)CONTINUES IN
AN ATMOSPHERE OF GREAT UNCERTAINTY AS REGARDS SOVIET INTENTIONS,
ON QUESTION, OF TALKS PROPOSED BY PRESIDENT JOHNSON AMD CONFLICTING
ESTIMATES OF USA AND USSR CAPABILITIES.NO RPT NO OFFICIAL STATEMENTS
HERE,EITHER PUBLIC OR. PRIVATE,HAVE PROVIDED ELUCIDATION

OF WHAT

USA AND USSR REPS MAY BE PREPARED TO DiSCUSS OR MAY IN FACT BE
DISCUSSING.THERE I S NOTHING BUT AIRIEST OF SPECULATION ON THIS
SUBJECT BUT, OF COURSE, THERE I S PLENTY OF THAT. IN ABSENCE OF QUOTE
HARD UNQUOTE INFO WE OFFER FOLLOWING IN RESPONSE TO YOUR REQUEST
FOR ASSESSMENT OFCA)CONGRESSIONAL FEELINGS OM ABM DEPLOYMENT AND
(B)PLACE OCCUPIED BY SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS DISARMAMENT SUBCTTEE
AND ITS .MEMBERS IN CONGRESSIONAL CTTEE PICTURE WITH PARTICULAR REF
TO WHAT EFFECT VIEWS EXPRESSED 8Y THAT SUBCTTEE COULD HAVE ON
CTTEES DEALING WITH DEFENCE MATTERS.
2.YOU POINTED OUT IN' REFTEL THAT NO RPT NO REPORT YOU HAD SEEN
HAD EXAMINED IN DETAIL STRENGTH AND CONFIGURATION OF PRO-ABM
ELEMENTS. STRENGTH AND CONFIGURATION OF PR0-A3M ELEMENTS I S

JUST

ABOUT AS FLUID AS ANTI-ABM ELEMENTS.IT I S PR03ABLY FOR THAT REASONS
THAT DETAILED ANALYSIS OF STRENGTHS AND CONFIGURATIONS OF BOTH SIDES
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IN DEBATE HAS NOT RPT NOT BEEN ATTEMPTED.IT FOLLOWS THAT STRENGTH
OF PRESSURE THAT MAY BE EXERTED ON ADMIN REGARDING THIS QUESTION
I S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE AND PROBABLY POINTLESS TO ANALYSE AND
ASSESS BECAUSE IT CAN CHANGE DEPENDING ON FACTORS THAT MAY BE ONLY
TANGENTIALLY OR NOT RPT NOT AT ALL RELATED TO DEFENCE,EG ELECTORAL
OR ECONOMIC OR REGIONAL CONSIDERATIONS.
3 . T H I S BEING SAID ONE MAY PERHAPS SUGGEST WITH REASONABLE CERTAINTY
SOME CONSIDERATIONS WHICH WILL PREDISPOSE JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF
AND MEMBERS OF CONGRESSCPARTICULARLY HOUSE OF REPS) IN FAVOUR OF ABM
DEFENCE. JCS HAVE AMONG THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES FORMULATION AND
EXECUTION OF PLANS FOR DEFENCE OF USA.THUS WHILE THEY MIGHT NOT
RPT NOT DISAGREE WITH SYSTEMS ANALYSTS CONCLUSION THAT IMPROVEMENT
OF OFFENSIVE CAPABILITY I S MORE COST EFFECTIVE THAN DEFENSIVE
MEASURES THIS-WOULD NOT RPT NOT AFFECT THEIR ARGUMENT THAT BOTH
SHOULD BE PROVIDED.MEMBERS OF HOUSE OF REPS ARE ELECTED PREDOMINANTLY FROM AREAS OF MEDIUM TO HIGH POPULATION DENSITY.NEED TO
BE RESPONSIVE TO CONCERNS OF THIS ELECTORS,WHO MAY NOT RPT NOT FIND
MUCH COMFORT IN COST-EFFECTIVENESS ARGUMENT,IS LIKELY TO INCLINE
CONGRESSMEN TOWARDS DEPLOYMENT OF WHAT CAN BE REPRESENTED AS A
DAMAGE LIMITING AND LIFE SAVING SYSTEM.ANY SERIOUS UNDEREMPLOYMENT
OE SEGMENTS OF AEROSPACE INDUSTRY WOULD ALSO BE FACTOR.AS REGARDS
COST ONE CANNOT'RPT NOT LIGHTLY DISMISS APPEAL OF ASSERTIONS SUCH
AS THOSE OF SENATOR ELLENDER WHO I S RELIABLY REPORTED TO HAVE
COMMENTED ON 40 BILLION DOLLARS FIGURE FOR AN ABM SYSTEM THAT THIS

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COULD EASILY BE HANDLED .OVER A TEN YEAR PERIOD BY CUTTING DOWN • ON
SOME OF PRESIDENT JOHNSONS DOMESTIC PROGRAMS.SIMILARLY CONGRESSMAN
MENDEL RIVER,CHAIRMAN OF HOUSE ARMED SERVICES CTTEE, IS ON RECORD
AS STATING QUOTE I DONT KNOW WHY A NATION APPROACHING A TRILLION
DOLLARS IN GNP CANT AFFORD A GADGET TO PROTECT-ITS CIVILIZATION
UNQUOTE.

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4.IT IS AGAINST THIS BACKGROUND OF SIMPLISTIC BUT NONETHELESS
APPEALING ARGUMENT THAT EFFORTS OF DEFENCE SECRETARY MCNAMARA AND
OTHERS OPPOSED TO AEM DEPLOYMENT AT THIS TIME. SHOULD BE SEEN.
MCNAMARA HAS LOST NO RPT NO OPPORTUNITY TO ARGUE NOT RPT NOT
ONLY THAT COST OF BMD SYSTEM WOULD BE ENORMOUS BUT ALSO THAT
REGARDLESS OF COST IT WOULD PROBABLY BE INEFFECTIVE IN THAT IT COULD
NOT RPT NOT PREVENT MANY MILLIONS OF CASUALTIES. THIS LATTER ARGUMENT
MAY APPEAL TO CONGRESSMEN BUT ONE CANNOT RPT NOT BE AT ALL CERTAIN
OF THIS.POSSIBILITY OF REPUBLICANS ALLEGING A QUOTE MISSILE
DEFENCE .GAP UNQUOTE IN 1968 JUST AS DEMOCRATS ALLEGED A QUOTE MISSILE
GAP UNQUOTE IN 1960 MUST BE CONSIDERED.
5.AS REGARDS DISARMAMENT SUBCTTEE OF SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS CTTEE,
ITS MEMBERSHIP IS SMALL,CONSISTING OF FIVE DEMOCRATIC SENATORS
(GORE,CHURCH,SYMINGTON,CLARK AND PELL)AND TWO REPUBLICANS
(HICKENLOOPER AND AIKEN).ITS INFLUENCE IS NOT RPT NOT NECESSARILY
COMMENSURATE WITH ITS SIZE BUT IN RELATION TO OTHER CONGRESSIONAL
CTTEES ITS IMPORTANCE SHOULD NOT RPT MOT BE OVER ESTIMATED.
NEVERTHELESS STATEMENTS OF ANY SENATOR OR GROUP-OF SENATORS COMMAND
PUBLIC ATTN PARTICULARLY'ON A SUBJECT AS MUCH IN PUBLIC EYE AS

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NUCLEAR MISSILES.IT MAY THEREFORE BE EXPECTED THAT THERE WILL BE
FAIRLY EXTENSIVE PRESS COVERAGE OF FUTURE HEARINGS OF SUBCTTEE
ON QUESTION OF BMD PARTICULARLY WHENEVER HEARINGS ARE OPEN TO PUBLIC.
6. ONLY CONCLUSIONS WE THINK CAN BE DRAWN AT THIS TIME ARE(A)
THAT GIVEN MYRIAD IMPONDERABLES THAT WILL INFLUENCE THEIR VIEWS,

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IT I S TOO SOON TO DRAW ANY CONCLUSIONS ON WHAT CONGRESSMEN WILL
HAVE TO SAY INDIVIDUALLY AND COLLECTIVELY ON BMD IN COMING MONTHS
(B)THAT ADMIN POSITION,WHICH INEVITABLY w'lLL BE DETERMINED BY AS YET
UNPREDICTABLE EVENTS (EG OUTCOME OF PRESENT EXPLORATORY EXCHANGES
WITH RUSSIANS),CANNOT RPT NOT BE PREDICTED AND(C)THAT POSITIONS
TAKEN IN CONGRESS AND ADMIN ON BMD WILL NOT RPT NOT NECESSARILYBE BASED ENTIRELY ON OBJECTIVE APPRECIATION OF EITHER UTILITY
OR COST OF DEFENSIVE SYSTEM.

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