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UNITED

STATES

'ormation Act es a I'information

INFOR'MAT

VICE

United States Embassy, Ottawa - Telephone: 613 2 3 6 - 2 3 4 1 / 2 3 2 - 8 0 2 0

PRESIDENT JOHNSON'S PRESS-CONFERENCE
AUSTIN, TEXAS, DEC. ~\, 1966—FOLLOWJHMG IS THE TRANSCR
PRESIDENTIAL PRESS CONFERENCE IN AUSTIN DEC, 6:

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THE PRESIDENT: THERE ARE TWO OR THREE BRIEF ANNOUNCEMENTS
BEFORE WE GET INTO THE SUBJECT OF TODAY'S MEETING.
FIRST, i PLAN TO SEE EUGENE BLACK SOME TIME EITHER THIS WEEK
OR IN THE EARLY PART OF NEXT WEEK.
I EXPECT I WILL DO IT IN WASHINGTON. AS SOON AS THE DATE !S CLEAR,
I WILL INFORM YOU.
LAST WEEKEND, I ASSURED SECRETARY GORDON AND AMBASSADOR LINOWITZ
THAT I WANTED TO SEE THEM AS SOON AS THEY RETURNED FROM THE TRIP THAT
THEY ARE MAKING IN THIS HEMISPHERE. WE TALKED ABOUT DEVELOPMENTS
IN LATIN AMERICA.
AS YOU KNOW, AMBASSADOR LINOWITZ RECENTLY VISITED COSTA RICA WHERE
HE MET INFORMALLY WITH THE FOREIGN MINISTERS OF THE CENTRAL AMERICAN
COUNTRIES.
ASSISTANT SECRETARY GORDON AND AMBASSADOR LINOWITZ WILL BE
TRAVELLING TO SOUTH AMERICA BETWEEN NOW AND DECEMBER 18TH TO CONSULT
WITH LEADERS ON THE ALLIANCE FOR PROGRESS, AND THE PROPOSED MEETING
OF PRESIDENTS OF THE AMERICAN REPUBLICS.
THEY WILL HAVE A STAY OF SOME LENGTH IN MEXICO AND VISIT WITH THE
PRESIDENT OF MEXICO.
I DISCUSSED THAT WITH THE PRESIDENT OF MEXICO AND ASKED THAT HE
SEE THEM UPON THEIR RETURN FROM SOUTH AMERICA.
THEY WILL EITHER COME TO THE RANCH OR REPORT TO ME IN WASHINGTON.
THE FEDERAL HOME LOAN BANK BOARD HAS TOLD ME THAT IT HAS REVIEWED
ITS FINANCIAL POSITION AND HAS DETERMINED THAT THE HOME LOAN BANKS
CAN INCREASE THEIR LENDING TO MEMBER SAVINGS AND LOAN ASSOCIATIONS
AND SAVINGS BANKS BY 500 MILLION DOLLARS OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS
FOR INVESTMENT IN RESIDENTIAL MORTAGES.
AS YOU KNOW, WE RELEASED 250 MILLION DOLLARS FOR SPECIAL
ASSISTANCE IN THE PURCHASE OF MORTAGES THE OTHER DAY.
THESE ADDITIONAL HOME LOAN BANK BOARD FUNDS WILL HELP TO EASE
THE SHORTAGE OF MONEY FOR INVESTMENT IN HOME MORTAGES
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W | HAVEN'T MADE -THE. DEC! Sf ON. I DON'T WANT TO CONVEY THE IMPRESSION
THAT I .HAVE. " • • - . .
QUESTION: MR. PRESIDENT, IS MR. MCNAMARA OPEN TO QUESTIONS? THE PRESIDENT:. YES; AND MR. VANCE AND MR. ROSTOW.
QUESTION: THERE ARE WIRE REPORTS FROM VIETNAM THAT WE BOMBED
THREE TARGETS IN NORTH VIETNAM SINCE LAST FRIDAY THAT WE HAD NOT
BOMBED .BEFORE.
IS THIS PART OF A NEW PROGRAM THAT WE DECIDED UPON?
SECRETARY MCNAMARA:. NO.
TARGET SYSTEM THAT. OUR ; Ml L
FOR OVER A YEAR, THE LINES
FAC I.LI TIES. SUPPORT ING THE
VIETNAM TO SOUTH VIETNAM.

THESE TARGETS ARE PART OF THE SAME
I TARY EFFORTS HAVE BEEN DIRECTED.AGAINST
OF COMMUNICATION AND THE SUPPORTING
FLOW OF MEN AND MATERIAL FROM NORTH

THE TARGETS YOU REFERRED TO WERE PETROLEUM DEPOTS, WHICH
ARE THE FOUNDATION OF THE MOVEMENT OF MEN AND MATERIAL TO THE SOUTH;
A VEHICLE PARK, A VEHICLE MAINTENANCE DEPOT, WHICH WAS A
STOREHOUSE FOR THE .TRUCKS USED IN THOSE MOVEMENTS, THE ARMY TRUCKS
USED IN THOSE MOVEMENTS;' AND RAILROAD YARDS THROUGH WHICH THE '
MATER I ELS WERE FLOWING.
QUESTION:-.MR. SECRETARY, IS THE APPARENT INTENSIFICATION OF'THE
AIR WAR POSING ANY POLICY PROBLEMS FOR US, THAT IS, STRIKING AT
THE AIR FIELDS IN NORTH VIETNAM?
SECRETARY MCNAMARA:.NO, I DON'T THINK IT IS FAIR TO CHARACTERIZE
IT AS AN •INTENSIFICATION. THERE .WAS SOME VERY BAD WEATHER FOR AN.
EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME, AND THE RESULT WAS THAT THERE.'.WAS A-VERY '
SUBSTANTIAL DECREASE IN THE .NUMBER OF SORTIES. THEN ALL OF A
SUDDEN THE WEATHER' BROKE'AND AN INCREASE COMPARED TO THE RECENT PAST.
I THINK THAT. IS WHAT HAS GIVEN THE APPEARANCE OF AN INTENSIFlCATiON,
WHEREAS THERE WAS NO INTENSIFICATION.. •
QUESTION: NO, SIR. I MEANT BY THEM -SECRETARY MCNAMARA: I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEANT. THE POINT IS
THAT :tHE NUMBER OF SORT IES THAT HAD BEEN OPERATED .FOR A PERIOD OF
WEEKS HAD BEEN LOW, AND, HENCE,'THE MIG RESPONSE HAD-BEEN, E N A SENSE,
LOW. THEN AS THE WEATHER CLEARED AND THE SORTIES REVERTED BACK TO A
NORMAL.-LEVEL, THE MIG RESPONSE REVERTED BACK TO THE LEVELS THAT WE
HAD. EXPERIENCED' I N PR I OR PER I ODS.
QUESTION: THEN-YOU DON'T'REGARD OUR PLANE LOSSES AS UNUSUAL OR
ABNORMAL?
••
SECRETARY MCNAMARA: NO. THEY FLUCTUATE DAY BY DAY. THE PLANE..
LOSSES FOR A PERIOD. OF FOUR-WEEKS, FOR EXAMPLE, IN RELATION TO THE
NUMBER OF SORTIES I THINK WOULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY THE SAME AS WE.
HAVE EXPERIENCED I NT "PR I OR "PERIODS.

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QUESTION: SECRETARY MCNAMARA, CAN YOU GIVE ANY INFORMATI ON ON
WHAT HAS BEEN DECIDED ON THE POSEIDON? WILL WE GO INTO THAT PROGRAM,
THE ANTI-MISSILE? WILL IT BE ADVANCED TO THE NEXT LEVEL OF
DEVELOPMENT, AND ON THE MANNED B0M3ER?
SECRETARY MCNAMARA: AS'THE PRESI DENT'MENTIONED, HE IS CONSIDERING A
NUMBER OF SPECIFIC WEAPONS SYSTEM PROPOSALS FOR FISCAL 1968.
NO FINAL DECISION HAS BEEN MADE ON SEVERAL OF THESE. THEREFORE,
IT IS INAPPROPRIATE, I THINK, TO SPEAK OF ANY PARTICULAR SYSTEM AT
THIS TIME.
QUESTION: MR. SECRETARY, V/OULD YOU GIVE US AN ESTIMATE OF THE
MONTHLY COST OF THE WAR IN VIETNAM NOW WITH THIS SUPPLEMENTAL FIGURE?
SECRETARY.MCNAMARA: NO. IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO GIVE MONTHLY
FIGURES. THE PRESIDENT HAS REFERRED TO THEM IN THE PAST AND I HAVE
NOTHING TO ADD TO WHAT HE HAS S A I D .
QUESTION: DO YOU SEE A LEVELING OFF OF THE COST OF THE WAR IN THE
YEAR AHEAD?
SECRETARY MCNARA: I THINK THERE WILL BE A LEVELING OFF IN THE
RATE OF BUILD-UP, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT.
I HAVE SPOKEN BEFORE, AFTER DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PRESIDENT ON
THE FISCAL 1967 SUPPLEMENT AND THE FISCAL 1968 BUDGET, ABOUT THE
LEVELING OFF THAT WE SEE IN THE BUILD-UP RATE, BOTH IN VIETNAM AND
IN OUR TOTAL FORCE.
IN THAT SENSE, THEREFORE, I BELIEVE THERE WILL BE A LEVELING
OFF TOWARDS THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR IN THE RATE OF EXPENDITURE
ASSOCIATED WITH THE VIETNAMESE OPERATIONS.
QUESTION: AND FISCAL 1968, MR. SECRETARY?
SECRETARY MCNAMARA: AND FISCAL 1967, THE RATE OF EXPENDITURES.
ASSOCIATED WITH THE VIETNAMESE OPERATIONS.
THE PRESIDENT: BEFORE WE ENDED, I COMMENDED THE JOINT -CHIEFS OF
STAFF AND THE SECRETARY FOR THE PERFORMANCE OF THEIR MEN IN VIETNAM.
I COMMENDED THEM FOR THE ECONOMY AND EFFICIENCY WITH WHICH THE
DEPARTMENT WAS OPERATING IN THAT THEATRE.
I DID :THAT BASED UPON REPORTS THAT I RECEIVED FROM OUR PEOPLE IN
THE F I E L D ; IN PARTICULAR, GENERAL WESTMORELAND, WHO HAS ASSURED
ME THAT IN ALL OF HIS EXPERIENCE IN THE MILITARY FIELD HE HAS NEVER
OBSERVED AN ARMY THAT WAS PROVIDED FOR BETTER, THAT WAS BETTER
TRAINED, THAT HAD BETTER EQUIPMENT, AND HAD IT WHEN IT NEEDED I T ,
WHERE IT NEEDED I T .
I ATTRIBUTE A GOOD DEAL OF THAT TO THE C I V I L I A N MANAGEMENT OF
SECRETARY MCNAMARA AND UNDER SECRETARY VANCE, AND THE SERVICE
SECRETARIES, AND ALSO TO THE VERY OUTSTANDING ADMINISTRATION OF
THE CHIEFS THEMSELVES.
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Q^/E WENT .INTO. SOME DETAIL DURING. THE LUNCH HOUR ON PROBLEMS .OF
ADMINISTRATION. YOU AND THE COUNTRY OUGHT TO KNOW THAT I THINK
WE HAVE A VERY HIGH CALIBER OF MEN IN THE JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF,
WHO HAVE DONE AN EXCEPTIONALLY GOOD JOB, PARTICULARLY FROM THE
STANDPOINT OF'EFFICIENT ADMINISTRATION AND ECONOMY.
QUESTION: MR. PRESIDENT, SOME TIME AGO I BELIEVE YOU WERE
QUOTED-AS SAYING YOU COULD SEE THE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL.
I MAY BE PARAPHRASING IT.
DOES THAT LIGHT LOOK STRONGER TO YOU NOW AND DO YOU SEE THE
COMING OUT OF THE TUNNEL IN 1967?
THE PRESIDENT: I WOULD NOT SPECULATE ON THAT.
QUESTION: MR. SECRETARY, DOES IT APPEAR NOW THAT THE DEFENSE
BUDGET FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR WILL BE HIGHER THAN THIS YEAR'S, '
COUNTING IN WHAT YOU WILL REQUEST IN THE SUPPLEMENTAL?
SECRETARY MCNAMARA: AS THE PRESIDENT INDICATED, THE TOTAL FOR
FISCAL 1968 HAS NOT BEEN DETERMINED. I DO NOT WANT TO TALK IN NUMERICAL
TERMS.
-.,1 WILL SIMPLY TELL YOU THAT .AS BEST WE CAN SEE IT NOW, THE TOTAL
DEFENSE BUDGET FOR FISCAL 1968 WILL NOT TAKE A SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT
PART OF THE TOTAL NATIONAL INCOME THAN IT DID IN FISCAL YEARS
1961, I962 AND 1963.
QUESTION: WHAT WERE THOSE FIGURES?
SECRETARY MCNAMARA: ABOUT 8.9 PERCENT.
QUESTION: OF THE GROSS NAT IONAL PRODUCT?
SECRETARY.MCNAMARA: YES.
QUESTION: DO YOU SEE ANY SLOWING DOWN OF SUPPLIES TO THE VIET
CONG? THERE ..HAVE BEEN REPORTS THAT THE RED CHINESE ARE STOPPING
SOVIET SUPPLIES FROM MOVING OVER THE MAINLAND.
SECRETARY MCNAMARA; 1 HAVE SEEN THE REPORTS. BUT WE HAVE NO
WAY OF KNOWING WHAT SOVIET SUPPLIES ARE MOVING THROUGH RED CHINA.
• QUESTION: MR. SECRETARY, THESE AIR LOSSES IN THE LAST FEW DAYS,
ARE THEY'DUE ALMOST ENTIRELY TO MIG'S, AND IF SO, DO WE KNOW WHO
IS^FILYYNG THE'MIG'S?
SECRETARY MCNAMARA: NO,. THE, NUMBER OF LOSSES TO MIG'S IS VERY '
SMALL.
MY RECOLLECTION IS -- CHECK ME ON THIS -- THAT ONE AIRCRAFT'
HAS BEEN LOST TO MIG'S IN THE PAST TWO WEEKS.
UNDER SECRETARY.VANCE: THAT IS CORRECT.
QUESTIONS: ARE THESE MOSTLY. SAM'S? (SURFACE TO Aj'R MISSILES)'
SECRETARY MCNAMARA;.NO, 'MOSTLY ANTI-AIRCRAFT CAUSED.
QUESTION: ARE THEY CONVENTIONAL?
• .SECRETARY MCNAMARA': YES,
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QUEST I ON:-MR. SECRETARY,
WOULD LIKE ATA READ' TO US?

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IS THAT A PAPER IN YOUR HAND THAT,YOU
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SECRETARY MCNAMARA: NO.. I ANTICIPATED A -QUESTION, AS A MATTER
OF FACT, AND SINCE'..IT HAS NOT COME,' J AM NOT GOING TO VOLUNTEER
THE ANSWER,
'
NOW.THAT YOU RAISE THE P O S S I B I L I T Y , .LET ME MENTION.ONE MATTER THAT
DID COME UP THAT WE HAVE BEEN QUERIED ON IN THE PENTAGON. I THOUGHT
YOU MIGHT POSSIBLY ASK IT HERE.
SINCE IT WAS A MAJOR POINT OE DISCUSSION WITH THE PRESIDENT,
I WAS PREPARED TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTION THAT CAME ON I T . IT IS AN
IMPORTANT MATTER,
I DICTATED A STATEMENT FOLLOWING OUR D I SCUSS I ON TH I S MORNING; .'.WHICH I THINK PERHAPS MR. CHRISTIAN CAN HAVE REPRODUCED BY THE TIME
VE LEAVE HERE, ON TH I S MATTER.
IS THE QUESTION OF THE CHANGES IN THE SOVIET INTERCONTINENTAL
C M I S S I L E . THERE HAS BEEN SOME SPECULATION ON THOSE SYSTEMS.
THESE, OF COURSE, ARE ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT WE CONSIDER IN
DEVELOPING OUR OWN STRATEGIC NUCLEAR FORCE. EACH YEAR WEBREVIEW THE
LATEST INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATES ON THIS SUBJECTv
WE HAVE DONE SO AGAIN THIS YEAR. I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THESE
ESTIMATES TO YOU.
N ORDER TO PUT THEM IN PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD' LIKE TO TELL YOU
SOMETHING ABOUT THE OBJECTIVES OF OUR STRATEGIC NUCLEAR FORCE, LAST
YEAR'S ESTIMATES OF THE SOVIET FORCE, THE WAY THOSE ESTIMATES
HAVE CHANGED, AND THE EFFECT, IF ANY, THAT THAT WILL HAVE ON OUR
FORCE PLANNING.
THE OBJECTIVES FOR OUR STRATEGIC NUCLEAR FORCES ARE TWO. THESE
ARE THE SAME OBJECTIVES WE HAVE HAD IN RECENT PAST YEARS. THEY ARE
THE OBJECTIVES WE-WILL HAVE AS A FOUNDATION FOR THE FORCE PLANNING
IN FISCAL 1968.'
FIRST, TO DETER A DELIBERATE NUCLEAR ATTACK UPON THIS COUNTRY AND
i TS A L L I E S , AND TO ACCOMPLISH THIS DETERRENCE BY MA.I NTAINING.A
CLEAR AND CONVINCING CAPABILITY TO ABSORB A FIRST STRIKE AGAINST US
AND WITH SUFFICIENT POWER TO LITERALLY DESTROY THE ATTACKER, EITHER
A SINGLE ATTACKER OR ANY COMBINATION OF AGGRESSORS.
THAT IS THE FIRST OBJECTIVE. IT IS BY FAR THE MOST IMPORTANT
ONE AND THE ONE WE MUST ABSOLUTELY MEET WITHOUT ANY QUESTION,
REGARDLESS OF COST.
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THE SECOND OBJECTIVE, OF COURSE,
DETERRENCE FAILS IN THE EVENT OF AN
NATION,
TO L I M I T ' THE DAMAGE TO OUR
AND THE PEOPLE AND THE RESOURCES OF

IS THAT IN THE EVENT •
ATTACK ON THIS
PEOPLE AND OUR RESOURCES,:.
OUR A L L I E S .
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jHE DETERRENT PORTION OF OUR FORCE IS CALLED OUR "ASSURED
'RUCTION FORGE," OR OUR ASSURED DESTRUCTION CAPABILITY, AND THE
REMAINING FORCE;
THAT REQUIRED TO REDUCE THE WEIGHT OF AN ENEMY ATTACK OR TO .
REDUCE THE LOSSES ASSOCIATED WITH ONE IS CALLED THE "DAMAGE LIMITING
.FORCE."
THE NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE EST I MATES WHICH ARE PREPARED ANNUALLY&gt;
AND REVISED MORE FREQUENTLY, IF NECESSARY, OF THE SOVIET FORCES ARE
ONE OF SEVERAL FACTORS WE EXAMINE IN DETERMINING OUR OWN FORCE
STRUCTURE.
IN MY STATEMENT TO THE CONGRESS- LAST FEBRUARY — AND, AS
A.MATTER OF FACT,.IN THE UNCLASSIFIED EDITION OF THAT STATEMENT
WHICH RAN TO SOMETHING ON THE ORDER OF 200 PAGES -- .1 EMPHASIZED
THAT OUR ESTIMATES OF SOVIET STRENGTH, SOVIET NUCLEAR STRENGTH, iN
THE YEARS IMMEDIATELY AHEAD WERE, OF COURSE, MUCH MORE CERTAIN
THAT-'OUR LONG-RANGE ESTIMATES.
SPECIFICALLY, I SAID THIS -- AND I AM GOING TO READ YOU A
PARAGRAPH OF THE MATERIAL THAT WAS PRESENTED TO CONGRESS LAST
FEBRUARY AND THAT WAS MADE PUBLIC AT THAT TIME:
"IN ORDER TO ASSESS THE CAPABILITIES OF OUR GENERAL NUCLEAR.
WAR FORCES OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS WE MUST TAKE iNTO ACCOUNT THE
SIZE AND CHARACTER OF THE FORCES OF THE SOVIETS ARE LIKELY TO HAVE
FOR THE SAME' PERIOD. ;
"WHILE WE ARE REASONABLY.CERTAIN OF OUR ESTIMATES FOR THE NEW
FUTURE, OUR ESTIMATES FOR THE LATTER PART OF THE DECADE, THE DECADE
OF THE 1960'S, AND THE EARLY PART OF THE DECADE OF THE 1970'S,
ARE 'SUBJECT TO GREAT UNCERTAINTIES.
.
"AS ,1 POINTED OUT IN THE PAST, SUCH PROJECTIONS ARE AT BEST
ONLY INFORMED ESTIMATES, PARTICULARLY SINCE THEY DEAL WITH THE
PERIOD BEYOND THE PRODUCTION AND DEPLOYMENT LEAD-TIMES OF THE.WEAPON
SYSTEMS INVOLVED."
' THEN I WENT ON TO POINT OUT THAT WE PLANNED OUR OFFENSIVE'FORCE
OF MISSILES AND BOMBERS TO HEDGE AGAINST THE SEVERAL DIFFERENT
CONTINGENCIES, INNLUDING TWO POSSIBILITIES IN PARTICULAR:
FiRST, THAT A SOVIET BALLISTIC MISSILE DEFENSE MIGHT BE GREATER
THAN EXPECTED BY THE INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATES; AND, SECONDLY, THAT
THE;SOVIETS MIGHT EMBARK UPON ANY ONE OF SEVERAL•POSSIBLE OFFENSIVE
BUILD-UPS,' INCLUDING VARIATIONS IN THE IR TARGET!NG DOCTRINE,
VARIATIONS IN THE TECHNOLOGICAL SOPH I ST I CAT I ON OF THEIR WEAPONS
SYSTEMS, AND VARIATIONS IN-THE'SPEED OF DEPLOYMENT OF THOSE SYSTEMS.
•I TOLD CONGRESS-, AND AGAIN I AM QUOTING FROM THE MATERIAL WE
PRESENTED,LAST-FEBRUARY- TO THE CONGRESS WHICH WAS MADE PUBLIC AT THAT
TIME, THAT:1.'WE. HAD GIVEN-SPECIAL ATTENTION TO AN ANALYSIS OF' SOVIET
THREATS OVER AND ABOVE THOSE- PROJECTED IN THE LATEST NATIONAL
INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATES.'
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-9"WE HAVE DONE SO BECAUSE AN ASSURED DESTRUCTION CAPABILITY,
A CAPABILITY TO SURVIVE THE'F IRST - STR I KE AND SURVIVE WI TH SUFF IG-IEN i - .
POWER TO DESTROY THE ATTACKER, IS THE VITAL FIRST OBJECT IVE WHICH
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MUST BE MET IN FULL REGARDLESS OF THE COST UNDER ALL FORESEEABLE
CIRCUMSTANCES AND' REGARDLESS OF;ANY .DIFFICULTIES INVOLVED."
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I ADDED THAT AFTER GIVING THIS SPECIAL ATTENTION TO AN ANALYSI S.-OF"
SOVIET THREATS.BEYOND THOSE - PROJECTED JN THE INTELLIGENCE
EST I MATES, • WE HAD, DECIDED TO_ ACCELERATE • THE • DEVELOPMENTS ' OF THE . ',
POSEIDON M I S S I L E .
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THAT IS THE DEVELOPMENT OF LAST YEAR AND DOES NOT RELATE TO;ANY
ACTION WE MIGHT TAKE. I N .. F I SCAL 1 9 6 8 .

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FURTHER, WE DECIDED TO MOVE AHEAD ON NEW PENETRATION AIDS TOEINSURE
GREATER CAPABILITY FOR PENETRATING ANY DEFENSES THAT MIGHT BE PUT • '
IN PLACE.' .
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THIRDLY, WE DECIDED TO COMPLETE THE DEVELOPMENT OF AND TO PRODUCE
AND DEPLOY MINUTEMAN I I I , WHICH, ALTHOUGH IT BEARS THE SAME NAME
AS MINUTEMAN I I , HAS A MUCH GREATER OPERATIONAL CAPABILITY. '
WE TOOK THOSE THREE STEPS NOT BASED UPON THE NAT IONAL INTELLIGENCE
ESTIMATES OF WHAT THE SOVIETS WOULD HAVE IN THE FUTURE. BUT BASED
UPON. THE' RECOGNITION THAT POSSIBLY THE SOVIETS WOULD DEVELOP A FORCE
IN EXCESS OF THOSE'NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATES.
WE HAVE SAID REPEATEDLY IN THE PAST THAT THE UNITED STATES HAS AN
INTERCONTINENTAL BALLISTIC MISSILE FORCE THREE TO'FOUR TIMES THAT
OF THE. SOVIET UNION.. THAT IS S T I L L TRUE TODAY.
OUR SHORT RANGE INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATES OF THE SOVIET INTERCONTINENTAL BALLISTIC MISSILE FORCE HAVE BEEN REMARKABLY ACCURATE.
EVIDENCE INDICATES THAT THE SOVIET INTERCONTINENTAL BALLISTIC MISSILE
STRENGTH TODAY IS ALMOST EXAC1LY--AND I MEAN WITHIN A FEW MISSILES ,
FIVE TO TEN MISSILES--OF WHAT OUR INTELLIGENCE PEOPLE PREDICTED IT
WOULD BE A'YEAR AGO. ' '
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WE ALSO BEL J EVE THAT LAST YEAR : S INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATES — 1965
— OF THE :.l NTERCONTINENTAL BALLISTIC MISSILES FORCE WHICH THE SOVIET
UNION WILL'HAVE A YEAR HENCE WILL BE ACCURATE.
OUR LATEST

INFORMATI ON CONFI RMS THESE ESTIMATES OF LAST YEAR FOR

MID-1967.
ADDITIONALLY, WE NOW HAVE EVIDENCE. INDICATING THAT WE WERE "VERY
WISE TO PLAN OUR INTERCONTINENTAL BALL I ST IC MISSILE PROGRAM ON THE \
ASSUMPTION THAT THE NAT I ONAL . I NTELL I GENCE EST I.MATES' FOR THE FUTURE
BEYOND. MID-1967 MIGHT BE LOW, AND DESPITE THE LACK OF. ANY SOLID PROOF
A YEAR AGO THAT.THE SOVIETS MIGHT DECIDE TO STEP UP THE PACE OF THEIR
INTERCONTINENTAL BALL I ST I C Ml SS I'LE DEPLOYMENT. WE THINK THEY ARE DOING
THAT NOW. WE THlKlK THEY HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR THE PAST YEAR.
EVIDENCE, THEREFORE,NOW SUGGESTS THAT IN MID-1968 THERE WILL BE MORE
SOVIET ICBMS THAT WERE PREDICTED A YEAR AGO IN THE NATIONAL
INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATES.
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W. WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT WE HAD ANTICIPATED THAT'DEVELOPMENT I'M OUR
PLANNING, AND THIS NEW INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATE, THEREFORE, HAS NO
IMPACT, NO BASIC IMPACT, ON OUR OFFENSIVE STRATEGIC FORCE REQUIREMENTS.
IN'SUMMARY, THEREFORE, I THINK THESE THREE MAJOR POINTS SHOULD BE
CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD BY THE AMERICAN PUBLIC:
FIRST, EVEN IF THE NEW INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATES FOR MID-I968 PROVES
ACCURATE, THE UNITED STATES, WITHOUT TAK.I NG ANY ACT I ONS BEYOND THOSE
ALREADY PLANNED AND ALREADY FINANCED IN THE FISCAL 1967 PROGRAM,
WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL:QUANTATIVE AND.QUALITIVE LEAD
OVER THE SOVIET UNION IN INTERCONTINENTAL BALL I ST IC MlSSILES AT THAT
TIME.
SECONDLY, THAT THE UNITED STATES HAS AS MANY INTERCONTINENTAL
BALLISTIC ..MISSILES TODAY AS THE LATEST INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATE PREPARED
WITHIN THE' LAST THREE OR FOUR WEEKS GIVES THE. SOVIET UNION SEVERAL
YEARS HENCEE
THIRDLY, THAT OUR STRATEGIC FORCES HAVE TODAY, AND THEY WILL
CONTINUE TO HAVE IN THE FUTURE, THE 'CAPABILITY OF ABSORBING A'
DELIBERATE FIRST STRIKE AGAINST THIS NATION AND SURVIVING WITH THE :;
SUFFICIENT STRENGTH "TO-RETALIATE IN SUCH A WAY. AS TO INFLICT
UNACCEPTABLE DAMAGE UPON THE AGGRESSOR OR ANY COMB I NAT I ON OF
AGGRESSORS.
THIS IS THE FOUNDATION OF THE.DETERRENT POWER ON WHICH OUR
NATIONAL SECURITY DEPENDS.
I HAVE GONE TO SOME LENGTH TO DISCUSS THIS MATTER BECAUSE THE POWER
OF OUR. STRATEGIC MISSILE FORCE AND THE ASSOCIATED BOMBER FORCE, THE
POWER OF. THAT FORCE. TO SURVIVE. A STRIKE AND TO SURVIVE WITH"
SUFFICIENT CAPAB.IL I TY'TO DESTROY THE ATTACKER, IS THE DETERRENT
OF,AN ATTACK ON THIS; NAT I ON, IS THE FOUNDATION OF OUR SECURITY, AND
HAS. THE F.'lRST CLAIM ON'OUR RESOURCES, REGARDLESS OF THE AMOUNT
REQUIRED.
THAT IS THE POLICY WE HAVE FOLLOWED IN 1967; THAT IS THE POL ICY.WE
ARE FOLLOWING, IN DEVELOPING THE 1968 PROGRAM.
QUESTION: THERE IS APPARENTLY GO ING TO BE CONSIDERABLE PRESSUREIN THE NEW CONGRESS TO GO AHEAD WITH NIKE X BECAUSE OF THE ADVANCE
IN THE'.SOVIET MISSILE SYSTEM.
:

HAS YOUR POSITION CHANGED ANY ABOUT THE NIKE X?

SECRETARY MCNAMARA: AS I' SAID'EARLiER, I DON'T WANT TO COMMENT '
ON ANY SPECIFIC WEAPONS SYSTEMS FOR 1968.
QUESTION: MR. PRESIDENT, HOW ARE YOU'FEEL I NG, SIR?
THE PRESIDENT: I FEEL FINE.
QUESTION: WILL THE'SUPPLEMENTAL BE JUST TO ADD TO THE DAY-TO-DAY
COST OF THE WAR? IS THERE SOMETHING NEW?
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SECRETARY MCNAMARA: THE, SUPPLEMENT TO THE FISCAL .1967 BUDGET
WILL BE RELATED SOLELY TO THE FUNDING.AND FINANCING OF OPERATION IN
VIETNAM.
QUESTION: MR. SECRETARY, WHAT WES THE ORIGINAL BUDGET FIGURE?
SECRETARY MCNAMARA: 5 8 . 5 B I L L I O N DOLLARS,
CORRECTLY, FOR FISCAL 1967.

IF

I RECALL THE FIGURE

QUESTION: MR. PRESIDENT, THE 500 MILLION DOLLARS THAT THE FEDERAL
HOME LOAN BANK BOARD SAID IT COULD MAKE AVAILABLE', IS THIS COMING
FROM THE SAME SOURCES AS THE 250 MILLION DOLLAR'S? '
THE PRESIDENT: 'NO. THE 2 5 0 MILLION DOLLARS WILL BE USED IN THE
SAME F I E L D .
THEY ARE FROM DIFFERENT SOURCES. ONE IS FROM AN APPROPRIATION OF
CONGRESS. THE OTHER IS FROM THE FEDERAL HOME LOAN BANK BOARD.
IT MAKES A TOTAL OF 7 50 MILLION DOLLARS AVAILABLE IN THIS FIELD
THUS FAR--THESE TWO ANNOUNCEMENTS.
QUESTION: ARE THERE ANY PLANS TO RELEASE THE OTHER 750 MILLION
DOLLARS THAT CONGRESS APPROPRIATED?
:
.
THE PRESIDENT: WHY DON'T YOU WRITE A STORY ON THIS 50O MILLION
DOLLARS, AND NOT OVERDO IT TODAY, AND WE WILL SEE.
THE ANSWER IS NO, WE HAVE NO PLANS AT THIS TIME.
QUESTION: MR. SECRETARY, THE STATEMENT THAT YOU READ REALLY.
TOUCHED ON MOST OF THE POINTS THAT ARE MADE AGAINST ADVANCING THE
ANTI-MISSILE MISSILE PROGRAM.
IS THAT NOT SO?
SECRETARY MCNAMARA: NO. THE STATEMENT I-READ HAD TO DOWITH THE
SOVIET OFFENSIVE FORCE AND THE DEGREE TO WHICH THAT OFFENSIVE FORCE
MIGHT KNOCK OUT OUR BOMBERS OR OUR MISSILE'S BEFORE THEY HAD AN
OPPORTUNITY TO RETALIATE IN RESPONSE TO'AN ATTACK ON US, AND, THEREFORE,
THE NEED FOR POSSIBLE ADDITIONS TO THAT FORCE. WHAT I SAID WAS THAT
LAST YEAR, AS ALWAYS, WE MAKE A PREDICTION OF SOVIET FORCES IN THE '
FUTURE.
THE NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATE IS THE BASIS FOR THAT. WE USE
THAT AS THE FOUNDATION OF OUR FORCE PLANNING.
HOWEVER, LAST YEAR, RECOGNIZING THAT THE SOVIETS MIGHT PRODUCE
AND DEPLOY MISSILES IN EXCESS'OF THE NUMBER INCLUDED IN THE NATIONAL
INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATE, WE TOOK'ACCOUNT OF THAT AND ACTUALLY EXPANDED
THE FISCAL 1967 BUDGET TO FINANCE THESE THREE ADDITIONAL ACTIONS,
THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE POSEIDON, THE ADDITIONAL PENETRATION A I D S ,
AND THE DEPLOYMENT OF MINUTEMAN I I I , IN ORDER TO TAKE ACCOUNT OF THIS
BARE POSSIBILITY THAT THEY WOULD GO ABOVE T H E . NAT IONAL INTELLIGENCE
ESTIMATE.
THEY APPEAR TO HAVE DONE SO. FRANKLY, THE AMOUNT BY WHICH THEY HAVE
ACCELERATED HAS NOT BEEN AS GREAT AS WE TOOK ACCOUNT OF IN THIS
GREATER THAN EXPECTED CASE.
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IT DOES NOT RELATE TO ANT I-BALL I ST IC MISSILES, HOWEVER.
QUESTION: THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF STORIES ON WE WON'T IF YOU
DON'T. DO YOU HAVE ANY REASON WHY THE SOVIET UNION IS NOW BEGINNING
SECRETARY MCNAMARA: I CAN'T EXPLAIN THEIR ACTIONS.
QUESTION: SIR, THERE HAVE BEEN COMMENTS IN CONGRESS, NOTABLY BY
THE MORSE SUBCOMMITTEE, THAT THERE HAS BEEN INSUFFICIENT FINANCIAL
SURVEILLANCE OVER SOME OF THE DEFENSE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS IN
VIETNAM. COULD YOU COMMENT?
SECRETARY MCNAMARA: WE HAVE AN AUDITING SYSTEM AT WORK. IT HAS
BEEN AT WORK SINCE THE CONSTRUCTION STARTED. THE AUDITS ON THE WHOLE
HAVE BEEN COMDREHENS i VE.. I THINK THEY HAVE SHOWN, AS YOU MIGHT
EXPECT, THAT IN THE RUSH OF PUTTING IN PLACE THE TREMENDOUS
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE—WHARVES, PORTS, DEPOTS, AIR BASES —
THERE HAS BEEN SOME WASTE, BUT, ON THE WHOLE, I AM PLEASED WITH THE
PERFORMANCE OF OUR CIVILIAN CONTRACTORS AND OUR MILITARY CONSTRUCTION
BATTALIONS.
I THINK THAT THE PROGRAM IS PROPERLY CONTROLLED.
QUESTION: MR. SECRETARY, HOW MUCH OF THE 58.5 BILLION
DO YOU ATTRIBUTE DIRECTLY TO VIETNAM?
SECRETARY MCNAMARA: I HAVE NOTHING MORE TO ADD ON THE COST OF
THE MILITARY OPERATION IN VIETNAM THAN WHAT THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID
PREVIOUSLY.

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