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JO I NT JOHNSON-MCNAMARA-WHtE.LER__PRg3S CONFERENCE
JOHNSON CITY, TEXAS, NOV. \\,
1966—FOLLOWING
JOINT PRESS CONFERENCE HELD HERE NOVEMBER 10:

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THE PRESIDENT: GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

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I ASKED SECRETARY MCNAMARA AND GENERAL WHEELER TO COME flERE'TODAY] ^

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GENERAL WHEELER HAD GONE TO SOUTH VIETNAM WITH SECRETARY MCNAMARAJ /
BUT DID NOT COME W"|TH HIM THE OTHER DAY. I WANTED TO REVIEW
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WITH THEM TOGETHER SOME DEVELOPMENTS IN SOUTH VIETNAM THA'T7THE.Y
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OBSERVED WHEN THEY WERE THERE, SOME PLANS THAT WE MUST MA'KE
FOR THE NEXT YEAR IN CONNECTION WITH OUR DEFENSE DEPARTME^T-BUDGEti:
AND MATTERS THAT THE JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF AND SECRETARY OF DEFENSE
NORMALLY DISCUSS WITH THE PRESIDENT.

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MR. CHRISTIAN TELLS ME THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO MEET WITH
SECRETARY MCNAMARA. HE WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AS WILL
GENERAL WHEELER.
AFTER YOU FINISH WITH THEM AND THEY ARE ON THEIR WAY BACK, I
WILL BE GLAD TO MEET WITH YOU AND DISCUSS OTHER MATTERS THAT MAY
INTEREST YOU.
SECRETARY MCNAMARA.
SEC. MCNAMARA: GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
AS THE PRESIDENT MENTIONED, GENERAL WHEELER AND I HAVE DISCUSSED
WITH HIM THIS MORNING OUR OPERATIONS IN VIETNAM AND THE OUTLOOK
FOR THE DEFENSE PROGRAM AND THE DEFENSE BUDGET IN FISCAL I968.
GENERAL WHEELER WILL COMMENT UPON OUR REPORT IN VIETNAM AND I
WILL SPEND A FEW MINUTES BEFORE TAKING YOUR QUESTIONS REVIEWING
REVIEWING CERTAIN OF THE ASPECTS OF OUR DEFENSE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS.
THIS WAS THE THIRD OF THESE DISCUSSIONS. WE HAD OUR FIRST WITH
THE PRESIDENT LAST FRIDAY, OUR SECOND ON SATURDAY, AND THE THIRD TODAY.
WE, OF COURSE, ARE NOT PREPARED TO MAKE A STATEMENT ON THE TOTAL
FUNDS TO BE REQUESTED, NOR EVEN TO REVIEW IN ANY DETAIL SPECIFIC
DETAILS OF THAT BUDGET.
BUT WE DID COVER FOUR ASPECTS OF IT THIS MORNING.

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FIRST, WE" DISCUSSED THE ANT I BALL I ST IC MISSILE SYSTEMS, THE
ACTION THE SOVIET UNION IS TAKTNG TO I NI TI ATE ...DEPLOYMENT OF SUCH
A SYSTEM, THE DEPLOYMENTS OF THE U.S. ANT I-BALLISTIC MISSILE
SYSTEM, STARTING WITH THE N7KE^ZETr5~^TEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND A
MUCH MORE ADVANCED-.SYSTEM. WHICH WE; HAVE UNDER. DEVELOPMENT . TODAY,
AMD ON WHICH WE HAVE.SPENT OVER HALF A BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR IN
\ IH. THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
WE CONSIDERED THE POSSIBLE DEPLOYMENT OF SUCH.SYSTEMS, BOTH
AGAINST THE CHINESE COMMUNIST NUCLEAR THREAT AND AGAINST. THE..
SOVIET OFFENSIVE SYSTEMS AS WELL. WE CONCLUDED THAT IT IS MUCH
e TOO EARLY TO MAKE A DECISION FOR DEPLOYMENT AGAINST THE .CHINESE
j THREAX AND WE HAVE NOT ARRIVED AT A DECISION" ON ANY OTHER DEPLOYMENT.
1| WE WILL CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSIONS ON THIS SUBJECT IN THE WEEKS TO COME.
SECONDLY, WE DISCUSSED THE POSSIBLE PRODUCTION OF.THE POSEIDON
MISSILE. YOU MAY RECALL THAT THIS IS A NEW MISSILE FOR DEPLOYMENT
AT SEA, THE DEVELOPMENT OF WHICH WE INITIATED"AS PART OF THE'FISCAL
I967 BUDGET AS AN INSURANCE PROGRAM. WE ESTIMATED AT THE TIME THIS
PROGRAM WAS PRESENTED LAST YEAR THAT IT WOULD REQUIRE ALMOST 2.
BILLION DOLLARS TO.DEVELOP, AND SEVERAL ADDITIONAL BILLION TO
DEPLOY, WE RECOMMENDED, AND' I BELIEVE W|LL_PRESENT TO THE CONGRESS,
A PROPOSAL TQ PRODUCE AND DEPLOY THAT SY.SIEM. THIS WILL REQUIRE A
|j COMPLETE REFITTING OF MOST OF OUR POLARIS SUBMARINES AT A COST
SOMEWHAT IN EXCESS OF 60 PERCENT OF THE INITIAL COST OF THOSE'
1 POLAR IS SUBS.
WE THEN CONSIDERED THE SUPPLEMENT TO THE 1967 DEFENSE BUDGET.
AS THE PRESIDENT REPORTED TO YOU LAST SATURDAY, IT WILL BE NECESSARY
• TO HAVE SUCH A SUPPLEMENT. THE PRODUCTION OF AIRCRAFT, HELICOPTERS,
GROUND ORDNANCE, AIR ORDNANCE HAS EXCEEDED OUR EXPECTATION. THE .
COMBINED TEAM OF AMERICAN MANAGEMENT AND AMERICAN LABOR HAS ACTUALLY
ACCOMPLISHED MIRACLES I N THE''LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. THAT PLUS THE.
NECESSITY TO CONSIDER FINANCING OPERATIONS IN SOUTHEAST AS IA '
BEYOND JUNE 30, 1967, WHICH WAS THE FOUNDATION OF THE 1967 PROGRAM,
.WILL QUITE CLEARLY REQUIRE A SUPPLEMENT TO THE DEFENSE.BUDGET.
WE REVIEWED CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THAT.
;•'. FINALLY, WE CONSIDERED'THE BASIC POLICY WHICH WE WILL FOLLOW AS
A.FOUNDATION FOR THE DEFENSE PROGRAM IN FISCAL 1968, AND UPON THE
PRESIDENT'S INSTRUCTIONS. WILL DEFER EVERY POSSIBILITY OF THE
DEFENSE PROGRAM THAT CAN BE DEFERRED WITHOUT ADVERSELY AFFECTING
."OUR SECURITY, THIS IN ORDER TO SOFTEN THE TRANSITION FOLLOWING THE
TERMINATION OE HOSTILITIES IN SOUTHEAST ASIA, THE TRANSITION TO
OUR PEACE TIME'ECONOMY,. WE WILL FOLLOW THEREFORE THE SAME POL ICY
IN 1968 THAT WE HAVE. TO SOME DEGREE TO THE PRESENT.
YOU WILL
REMEMBER THAT IN 1966 WE WERE AUTHORIZED A MILITARY CONSTRUCTION
PROGRAM OF ABOUT' E.,2 BILLION DOLLARS, AND HAVE DEFERRED FOR FUTURE
START ABOUT 600 MItlION'DOLLARS OF THAT. THIS REPRESENTS CONSTRUCTION
WHICH IS WHAT WEE NEED'''FOR DEFENSE, BUT WHICH IS NOT REQUIRED AT
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STRUCTION. LABOR-AND THE SHORTAGE OF CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS, WE ARE
WELL ADVISED TO DEFER THE START OF THAT CONSTRUCTION UNTIL SUCH TIME
AS OUR ECONOMY CAN BOTH ABSORB IT AND BENEFIT FROM I T .
WE WILL FOLLOW
A SIMILAR POLICY IN DEVELOPING THE 1968 PROGRAM.
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I THINK THIS WILL MEAN THAT,- FOR EXAMPLE, WE WILL DEFER BUILDING
CERTAIN INVENTORIES OF MUNITIONS AND OTHER EQUIPMENT, THAT
DON'T NEED AT PRESENT, THAT WE WON'T NEED NEXT YEAR, BUT WHICH
WILL REQUIRE AT SOME TIME IN. THE FUTURE, PRODUCTION OF WHICH
CAN USE AS A MEANS OF SOFTENING THE IMPACT OF THE TERMINATION
HOSTILITIES IN SOUTHEAST A S I A .

I WILL BE VERY HAPPY TO TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS ON ANYTHING I HAVE
SAID TODAY OR ON ANY OTHER ASPECT OF THE DEFENSE PROGRAM.
Q. MR. SECRETARY, DID YOU SAY THAT THE SOVIETS WERE DEPLOYING
AN ANT I BALL I STIC MISSILE SYSTEM?
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SEC. MCNAMARA: YES.
THAT THEY ARE.
Q.

IS IT AN EFFECTIVE SYSTEM, SIR?

SEC. MCNAMARA:
Q.

I BELIEVE THERE IS CONSIDERABLE EVIDENCE .

I THiNK YOU WOULD HAVE TO ASK THEM.

I MEAN, S I R , DO WE BELIEVE THAT IT

IS?

SEC. MCNAMARA: IT IS VERY DIFFICULT , OF COURSE, FOR US TO
APPRAISE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THEIR SYSTEM.
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT
THAT WE ASSUME IT IS EFFECTIVE AND, OF COURSE, THAT WILL BE THE
ASSUMPTION ON WHICH WE BASE THE DEVELOPMENT AND DEPLOYMENT OF OUR
OWN INTERCONTINENTAL BALLISTIC MISSILES.
Q. MR. SECRETARY, I KNOW-YOU SAID YOU CAN'T GO INTO DETAIL
WITH RESPECT TO THE SUPPLEMENTAL, BUT IS THERE ANY INDICATION NOW
AS TO WHETHER IT WOULD BE LARGER OR SMALLER THAN YOUR EARLIER
INDICATIONS?
SEC. MCNAMARA: NO. WE HAVE NOT COMPLETED OUR REVIEW OF I T .
THE JOINT CHIEFS ARE S T I L L REVIEWING CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE PROGRAM.
THEY HAVE NOT COMPLETED THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS TO ME, NOR HAVE I
TO THE PRESIDENT.
SO I AM NOT IN ANY POSITION TO EVEN APPROXIMATE THE
TOTAL AMOUNT. OF FUNDS TO BE REQUESTED OF THE CONGRESS. BUT I THINK
IT IS QUITE CLEAR, AS THE PRESIDENT SAID LAST SATURDAY AND AS I AM
REPORTING TO YOU NOW, THAT WE WILL HAVE SUCH A SUPPLEMENT/
Q. MR. SECRETARY, WHEN DID THE RUSSIANS START DEPLOYING THIS SYSTEM?

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SEC. MCNAMARA: I WOULD RATHER. NOT TRY. TO APPROXIMATE THE DATE.
I WILL -SIMPLY INDICATE TO. YOU WHAT WE HAVE SAID HERETOFORE., THAT
THEY HAVE STARTED SUCH DEPLOYMENT AND WE MUST ASSUME, AS I HAVE.
REPORTED TO THE C O R G T ^ ' s T S R E T T C ^ ^
THAT THEY
i WILL DEPLOY AN EFFECTIVE SYSTEM.
I THINK THAT IS THE ONLY SAFE
\ ASSUMPTEON THAT WE CAN MAKE IN PLANNING OUR OWN STRATEGIC FORCE.
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-H7 BUDGET AND'IT WILL BE THE SAME ASSUMPTION THAT WE WILL"APPLY
THE 1968 PROGRAM.

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Q. MR'. SECRETARY, HOW. ABOUT OUR OWN --.IT IS THE NIKE-X, ISN'T IT?
SEC. MCNA;MARA&gt; YES. WE HAVE THE NIKE-X SYSTEM UNDER DEVELOPMENT
AT THE PRESENTuTI-ME. . ON THAT SYSTEM WE HAVE SPENT OVER A HALF
BJJJ.1QN D_OL.LARS ,A yYEAR FOR SEVERAL YEARS^ WE BELIEVE IT TO BE
A'~VTRT^ADVAN.Ctp-. S Y S T T N T O F ANTTBACLI ST I C~MI SS I LE DEFENSE. AS I
MENTIONED EARLIER, WE DISCUSSED TODAY THE POSSIBLE DEPLOYMENT OF
THAT SYSTEM IN.RELATION TO BOTH THE CHINESE COMMUNIST NUCLEAR
DEVELOPMENTS AND THOSE ELSEWHERE IN THE WORLD.
...Q. WHAT DO YOU MEAN: BY DEPLOYMENT?
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SEC. MCNAMARA: PRODUCTION AND LOCATION OF UNITS IN THE UNITED,
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DEPLOY IT? .
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SEC. MCNAMARA: ANY DEVELOPMENT OF SUCH A SYSTEM WOULD TAKE
PLACE.OVER SEVERAL YEARS. ONE POINT I WOULD LIKE TO STRESS TO
YOU IS~nTAT THE LENGTH OF TIME REQUIRED TO DEPLOY SUCH A SYSTEM
IS LESS THAN THE LENGTH OF TIME REQUIRED FOR THE CHI NESE'"COMMUN I STS
TO DEVELOP. NUCLEAR WEAPONS THAT.CONCEIVABLY COULD THREATEN THIS
NATION. THEREFORE, I T I S. NOT TIMELY TO AT TH I S_DJ^MAJ1E__A_
DECISION. TO DEPLOY SUCH 'A_ SYSTEM TO DEFEND AGAINST THE CHINESE
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Q. DOES RED CHINA HAVE A NUCLEAR ANT I BALL I ST IC SYSTEM?
SEC. MCNAMARA: NOy^THE COMMUNIST CHINESE, AS YOU KNOW, ARE-JUST
IN THE E A R L Y T S T A G E S ' Q F fHE.DEVELOPMENT OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS AND, ;,'';
SO'FAR AS''WE;'rK'NdWy:i:AND F BELIEVE WE DO KNOW, THEY HAVE NOT;BEGUN TO
DEVELOP AN ANT I BALLISTIC 'MISSILE SYSTEM.'
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Q. DOES'-THIS AFFECTyTHE WAR IN VIETNAM? .
SEC. MCNAMARA.:: NO, NOT IN THE SLIGHTEST DEGREE.
Q, MR. SECRETARY, WHAT EFFECT WILL YOUR ANNOUNCED DRAFT CUTBACKS
HAVE..ON OUR MANPOWER SITUATION OTHER THAN VIETNAM? i AM THINKING
IN,TERMS OF EUROPE PARTICULARLY.
SEC. MCNAMARA: WE WILL KEEP OUR EUROPEAN FORCES, AND BE PREPARED
TO KEEP THEM, AT CURRENT LEVELS. EARLY THIS YEAR WE ANNOUNCED
THAT. WE WERE TEMPORARILY UTILIZING 15,000 MEN FROM OUR EUROPEAN
FORCES' l,N. THE. TRAIN i'NG OF. THE EXPANDED. ARMY IN THIS COUNTRY.- AT THE
BEGINNING: OF THE' YEAR,' WE.'HAD SOMETHING ON THE ORDER OF 225,000 •
MEN .IN OUR ARMY' FORCES IN WESTERN EUROPE. I STATED WE WOULD
DRAW. THEM DOWN BY ABOUT' 15,0.00 AND REPLACE THOSE MEN BY THE END
OFTHJS YEAR. WE ARE WELL ON THE WAY.TO DOING SOMETHING. I HAVE
.FORGOTTEN, THE EXACT STRENGTH IN WESTERN EUROPE TODAY, BUT I WOULD
THINK IT WAS ON THE ORDER OF 218,000. BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, IT
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WILL B E - 2 2 3 , 0 0 0 OR 2 2 H , 0 0 0 .
WE WILL PLAN TO BE PREPARED TO . , .
MAINTAIN IT AT THAT THROUGHOUT THE COMING YEAR.
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, T : 4 : NOTICED IN THE PRESS THAT I. WAS ACCUSED OF PLAYING POLITICS BY
ANNOUNCING THE CUT IN THE DRAFT CALL LAST SATURDAY. "I THINK SOME
MIGHT HAVE ACCUSED ME BY PLAYING REVERSE POL ITlCS BECAUSE, OF
COURSE, WHAT IT MEANT WAS THAT WE HAD FOR THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER
ANNOUNCED A RATHER HEAVY DRAFT- CALL IN SEPTEMBER, AND IT IS NOT'...;.
UNTIL AFTER THE'ELECT I ON THAT WE WILL BE.CUTTING THE DRAFT AS MUCH AS ; "WE ; 'ARE.' IT IS CUSTOMARY TO ANNOUNCE THE DRAFT
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CALLS TO THE SELECTIVE SERVICE SYSTEM BY A LETTER FROM MY OFF ICETO GENERAL HERSHEY, IN THE FIRST WEEK OF THE SECOND PRECEDING MONTH,
WHICH MEANT, OF COURSE, THAT WE SHOULD HAVE SENT THE LETTER TO
GENERAL HERSHEY ON LAST SATURDAY OR EARLIER FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY.
ACTUALLY, BECAUSE GENERAL WHEELER AND I HAD NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY
TO DISCUSS THIS SUBJECT WITH THE PRESIDENT, BECAUSE ITS SIZE DEPENDED
IN PART UPON DECISION WE HAD NOT YET HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE
WITH RESPECT TO POSSIBLE DEPLOYMENTS TO SOUTH VIETNAM IN I.967 WE DEFERRED
THAT JANUARY CALL UNTIL MONDAY IN ORDER THAT WE, MIGHT COMPLETE OUR
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DISCUSSIONS. WITH. THE PRESIDENT ON SATURDAY. . WE:,DlDE SO,, AND WE
TRANSMITTED THE LETTER TO GENERAL HERSHEY ON MbWpAY..: , IT .WAS FOR
A •(C-ALL, OF 2 7 , 0 0 0 FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY.
T HAT. -,CpMp'ARES WITH
CALLS FOR "THE FOUR MONTHS OF AUGUST THROUGH NOVEMBER^ OF BETWEEN
3 7 , 0 0 0 AND .50,000,- AND REPRESENTS,. THEREFORE, A VERY SUBSTANTI AL CUT.
THE CURRENT OUTLOOK FOR THE DRAFT FOR THE NEXT FOUR MONTHS, WHICH.
IS OUR PLANNING PERIOD, IS TO CALL IN TOTAL ABOUT 8 l , 0 0 0 MEN,
THIS FOR THE MONTHS OF DECEMBER, JANUARY, FEBRUARY, AND MARCH.'
FOR DECEMBER WE HAVE A CALL OF 1 2 , 0 0 0 , FOR JANUARY WE HAVE JUST
ANNOUNCED THE CALL AT 2 7 , 0 0 0 , AND FOR THE REMAINING TWO MONTHS WE
HAVE NOT YET ESTABLISHED THE SPECIFIC ALLOCATION BY MONTH. IN
.
TOTAL, THEY WILL.ADD TO DECEMBER,,AND -JANUARY AN AMOUNT SUFFICIENT
TO BRING THE FOUR-MONTH TOTAL TO ABOUT 8 ] , 0 0 0 MEN. THAT COMPARES
WITH THE TOTAL FOR THE FOUR MONTHS OF AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER,
AND NOVEMBER, OF ABOUT l 6 2 , 0 O O , A VERY SUBSTANTIAL REDUCTION.
Q. MR. SECRETARY-,' JUST ONE MORE QUESTION,
THE, BALLISTIC M I S S I L E , SYSTEM. ,
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Q. IN LAYMAN'S LANGUAGE, DOES THIS MEAN THAT THE RUSSIANS NOW
! HAVE THE CAPACITY TO KNOCK DOWN AMERICAN BALLISTIC MISSILES BUT
i WE DO NOT?
SEC. MCNAMARA: CERTAINLY NOT.
THERE . I S ABSOLUTELY NO. QUEST I.ON
ABOUT OUR CAPABILITY OF PENETRATTNG THE. SOVIET DEFENSES .WITH
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BOTH OUR Ml SSI LES AND AIRCRAFT. /THERE ..HAS:'BEEN NO 'QUEST I 0N : .' ' ^ '•;
ABOUT THAT AT ANY TIME DURING THE PAST 15 YEARS AND THERE.IS N O ' .
QUEST I ON ABOUT IT NOW. THERE WAS NOT ANY QUEST I ON ABOUT.TT.WHEN
THEY ERECTED THE ANT I -A IRCRAFT DEFENSES. AND ..INTENDED TO; PREVENT
OUR BOMBER AIRCRAFT FROM PENETRATING. ..AT THAT Tl ME,. WE ;HAD ;A ;'(MO'RE)
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-6^PABILITY OF ASSURING BOMBER PENETRATION. THERE IS NO QUESTION
ABOUT IT NOW .WHEN THEY ARE SIMILARLY TRYING TO DEFEND" :AGA I NST
INTER-CONTINENTAL BALLISTIC MISSILES.
Q. MR.. SECRETARY, IN YOUR SUMMARY YOU DID NOT MENTION MANNED.
BOMBERS: AND .PLANS FOR NEXT YEAR'S DEFENSE BUDGET. WHAT ARE,THE::
PLANS?
SEC MCNAMARA: NO, WE DID NOT MENTION THAT BECAUSE WE;DID NOT
DISCUSS THAT WITH THE PRESIDENT THIS MORNING. 1 HAVE JUST RECEIVED
WITHIN THE' PAST TWO DAYS OR THREE DAYS A REPORT ON THIS SUBJECT'
FROM THE SECRETARY OF THE AIR FORCE. WE HAVE NOT HAD AN-OPPORTUNITY
YET TO ANALYZE IT FULLY IN' MY OFFICE AND WE DID NOT HAVL' THAT ON
OUR AGENDA THIS MORNING. THIS MEETING TODAY, WHICH AS:T' SAY IS
THE THIRD WITH THE PRESIDENT ON THE SUBJECT OF THE FISCAL 1968
. PROGRAM, IS' BUT ONE OF SEVERAL. I AM SURE WE WILL REQUEST AN
OPPORTUNITY TO MEET ON FUTURE OCCASIONS. AMONG THE SUBJECTS WE
WILL DISCUSS AT THAT TIME WiLL, OF COURSE, BE THE POSSIBILITY OF AN
ADVANCED MANNED BOMBER.
IF'THERE'ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS, GENERAL WHEELER WILL COMMENT
UPON SOUTH VIETNAM.
GENERAL WHEELER: AS THE PRESIDENT MENTIONED, I DISCUSSED WITH •
HIM THIS MORNING THE PROGRESS OF THE WAR IN SOUTH VIETNAM. IT IS
'iNTERESTING'TO NOTE-THAT IT'-IS JUST :ABOUT A YEAR AGO IN A SERIES
OF BATTLE'S IN THE ANDRANG VALLEY NEAR THE CAMBODIAN BORDER,
GENERAL WESTMORELAND•S TROOPS, IN THIS CASE THE FIRST CAVALRY
DIVISION, DEFEATED, WITH SUBSTANTIAL LOSSES, THE NORTH VIETNAMESE
ARMY, 325TH INFANTRY DIVISION. .SINCE THAT TIME, THE NORTH
VIETNAMESE. AND THE VIETCONG HAVE MADE A NUMBER OF EFFORTS TO
SEIZE THE INITIATIVE FROM GENERAL WESTMORELAND'S FORCES. WHEN
I SAY HIS FORCES, I AM SPEAKING NOT ONLY OF AMERICANS, BUT ALSO THE
AUSTRALIANS., THE NEW ZEALANDERS, THE REPUBLIC OF KOREA FORCES, AND
.THE. REPIJBLI C. OF VIETNAM FORCES. IN A SERIES OF QUOTE
' EXTENSJVE BATTLES, HASTINGS, WHICH TOOK PLACE NEAR THE DEMILITARIZED
ZONEV STARTING' IN APRIL, OPERATION PRAIRIE, WHICH, AGAIN, TOOK^ '''•''"•'
PLAGE.;; AND r J Sb' TAKING. PLACE TODAY, NEAR THE DEMI LI TAR I ZED. ZONE, -.....
THE THIRD MARINES HAVE MANAGED TO FRUSTRATE AND DEFEAT AN ATTEMPT. _
AT. AN...INVASION FROM NORTH VIETNAM INTO SOUTH VIETNAM BY THE NORTH:
VlttNAMESE ARMY FORCES. WHILE WE WERE IN VIETNAM A COUPLE OF- :
WEtkS'AGO, WE VISITED OPERATIONS IN THE VICINITY OF PHU'KOK,"
WHERE THE FIRST ARMORED DIVISION, AN ROK OUTFIT AND AN ARFV OUTFIT,
MANAGEDETO-DEFEAT: AND. SERIOUSLY DAMAGE A NORTH VIETNAMESE
FORCE. TODAY,: THE.OPERATION ATTLEBORO, IN TAINAN PROVINCE, NEAR
THE CAMBODIAN BORDER,. NORTHWEST OF SAIGON, GENERAL BILL DEPEW AND
TROOPS OF' THE:.FIRST INFANTRY DIVISION, THE FIRST CAVALRY DIVISION,
AND THE 25TH INFANTRY DIVISION, HAVE BEEN ENGAGING IN VERY SUCCESSFUL
OPERATIONS AGAINST-THE NORTH VIETNAMESE TROOPS. I WAS ABLE TO
REPORT TO THE. PRESIDENT THAT THE WAR IN MY JUDGMENT CONTINUES IN
A VERY FAVORABLE FASHION. GENERAL WESTMORELAND RETAINS THE u^oc,
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-7INITI.ATEVE -AMD I.N EVERY OPERATION TO DATE, HE HAS MANAGED Tp. r.
DEFEAT'' THE- ENEMY,' 'I ALSO COMMENTED ON THE VERY SATISFACTORY" ::-,,.,,.
LOGISTIC BUILDUP WHICH WE CHECKED IN TO DURING OUR VISIT TO
VIETNAM. i BELIEVE THAT THE LOG 1STiCIANS, THE ENGINEERS, THE
ORDNANCE TYPES, THE QUARTERMASTERS, AND SO ON, ARE PERHAPS THE
UNSUNG HEROES OF THIS PARTICULAR WAR. I WOULD RECOMMEND TO ANY
CE YOU WHO WOULD LIKE TO CHECK MY WORDS TO VISIT CAM RANH BAY v
AMCNG-.CTHER PEACES., J N BRIEF, THEN., I WAS ABLE TO REPORT.TO,THE
PRESIDENT MY.SAT.ISEACTION;.FROM A MILITARY POINT OF VIEW AS TO 7
THE PROGRESS OF THE.WMRYY--..j ALSO TOLD HIM SOMETHING THAT:HE, OF
-COURSE^ SAW FOR H I MS-EEFYDER | NQ HIS VISIT TO SOUTH VIETNAM,' AND
THAT IS THE OUTSTAND FNCy MORALE., THE OUTSTANDI NG DEDICATION AND
DETERMINATION OF THE AMERIXAN EORCES. AND THEIR ALLIES OF-ALL RANKS,
FROM THE COMMANDERS YDO-YN •TO THE G.I-.'S IN PURSU I NG TH I S, PART I CULAR
WAR. | THINK THAT IS, ALL I HAVE TO SAY FORMALLY. I WELL BE GLAD
TO TRY.'TO ANSWER YOUR- QUESTIONS. •
': Qv GENERAL, ACCORDING TO THE NEWS REPORTS TODAY, THE VIETCONG
HAVE, I BELIEVE, USED NONLETHAL GAS_ FOR THE FIRST Tj_ME_AGA I NST-: •
OUR TROOPS... IS.THERE ANY SPECIAL SIGNIFICANCE IN'THAT ACTION?
GEN, WHEELER: i DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS TRUE. YOU HAVE TO
REMEMBER THAT WE, LEFT WASHINGTON- AT A RATHER EARLY HOUR, THIS -,
MORNING AND WHEN..I CHECKED WITH THE COMMAND CENTER BEFORE I LEFT,. ;;,
i RECEIVED NO SUCH REPORT. IF IT IS TRUE, I WOULD SAY IT REPRESENTS
A CERTAIN SOPHISTICATION, ADDITIONAL SOPH I ST I CAT I ON, OF THEIR
EFFORTS IN RESPOND IHX TO OUR OFFENSIVE AGAINST THEM.. :
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THE'PRESIDENTE I WILL BE GLAD TO TAKE SOME QUESTIONS. I WOULDyy-.'
LIKE TO ASK THE NETWORK PEOPLE OR THE BROADCAST ING PEOPLE, IF .. " :.
THEY WANT TO ORIG! N.ETE SOME 3ACK 'THERE i N THE BACKv'; THEN I •.' "..., /:
WILL MEET WITH;.ATbL OE'rOU FCR EXTENDED VISITS, SUCH-VIS ITS-AS Y'.T
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YOUR GREAT ~SOCJ.ETY. LEG! SLAT ION, GO ING !N THE CONGRESS-NEXT-YEAR?: Yv',
L T H I N K I T WILL' BE ' MORE DIFFICULT FOR A N Y N E W E r _
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^ T i HAD ANTICIPATED A LOSS OF NOT OVER ONE IN THE'SENATE; AND1
WE LOST THREE, ALTHOUGH ONLY ONE'VAS AN INCUMBENT "-L'SENATOR DOUGLAS.
THE OREGON SEAT:WAS A REPLACEMENT FOR SENATOR NEUBERGER.
TENNESSEE "SEAT "WAS ^'REPLACEMENT FOR SENATOR BASS.

THE

WE THOUGHT WE-WOULD LOSE ONE BUT. WE LOST THREE. IT IS-PRETTY.
DIFF(CULT.TO GUESS WHEN THEY ARE .VOTING ON 435 PEOPLE IN 50 STATES
WHAT THE RESULT WILL BE. BUT THE NUMBER OF LOSSES IN THE HOUSE
SOMEWHAT EXCEEDED WHAT OUR BETTER PEOPLE WHO HAD REPORTS .ON IT •• •
WOULD INDICATE, ALTHOUGH I WAS CLEAR TO POINT OUT THAT THEY
RECEIVED THE REPORTS FROM THE CANDIDATES THEMSELVES.;y
THE MARGIN WAS SOME FIVE TO TEN MORE THAN THE TOTALYAMOUNT
THAT WE HAD. ANTICIPATED, AS I TOLD YOU IN THE PRESS CONFERENCE THE
OTHER DAY AND AS I TOLD YOU AT JOHNSON CI'TY'.
THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I THINK WE OUGHT TO OBSERVE:
FIRST, A'S A GOOD AMERICAN, brJHI.NKyWE ARE ALL GLAD TO SEE A HEALTHY
AND COMPETENT EX iSTENCE"' OF''THE: TWO-PARTY SYSTEM. I THINK THERE'
IS NO QUESTION BUT WHAT THE'OTHER PARTY STRENGTHENED ITS POSITION.
SECOND, I BELIEVE, A.Sr.,fHE'"'LEADERSH I PrOF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY,
PRESIDENT EISENHOWER,;SENATOR'DiRKS^N,':ANDYoTH^R'BEL! EVE, THAT :-!!-':
IT WILL NOT IN ANY :WAY CHANGE OUR COURSE' O'F"' ACT I ON IN CONNECTION'
WITH'SECURITY MATTERS.
r HAVE:'HAD'"RATHER' GOOD COOPERATION FROM" TH'E; OPPOSITION PARTY, : '

AS I HAVE'STATED ON A 'GOOD MANY OCCAS PONS'"/ ON ALL MATTERS' AFFECT I NG
THE SECURITY OF THIS NATION, AND I EXPECT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT.
THIRD, WHILE YOU REGRET TO SEE SOME EFFECTIVE CONGRESSMEN
AND CERTA INLY YSENATOR..D.OUG LAS, AN EFFECT I VE SENATOR --:'LEAVE '"' "•
"WASHINGTON, NOT MANY PRES I DENTS HAVE BEEN PRESIDENT FO'fSb V^RY'H-ONG
WITH 248; 2U9 OR 250 MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE, AND' 64 MEMBERS-OF THE : :
SENATE,
.
•
AS: -.1-: SAIDrTO MRS.: JOHNSON LAST NIGHT, IT JUST . LOOKER LJ KE,
WE WILLCHA^E' TO GET BY WFTH A 2H8.-MARGIN, WHICH WILL BErSOME-'63-.:,•. .
MARGTNi .AND IN THE SENATE- ALMOST TWO TO ONE.
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'77:'-':,
I HOPE WHAT WE PROPOSE WILL BE SUFFICIENTLY MERITORlOUS'TO •
COMMAND. A MAJORITY VOTE";
.,. THE ,;.MOST EFFECTIVE DEMOCRATIC OPERATION THAT I EXPERIENCED IN
THE DAYS' I SERVED THERE WAS WHEN WE ONLY HAD A ONE M A N ' M A R G I N
IN THE SENATE. THERE WERE LESS ABSENTEES AND MORE PEOPLE THERE.
. OF.COORSEYYANYONE WOULD RATHER HAVE 67 ON HIS SIDE THAN 64.
, BUT I W6;ULD RATHER'''HAVEY'64 THAN 36. I WOULD RATHER HAVE 248 THAN'-'145.
:

I WOULD-BE LESS;,THAN- FRANK- IF I DIDN'T TELL YOU THAT I AM .-.,
SORRY WE LOST ANY DEMOCRATIC SEATS. .BUT I WOULD ALSO TELL YOU.v Y
THAT OVER A PERIOD O.F .TEARS THE.. AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE A WAY, I GUESS,
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WHEN THE PENDULUM SWINGS ONE WAY AS IT DID IN 196U PRETTY
STRONGLY, IT HAS A TENDENCY TO SWING BACK AND SOMEWHAT
BALANCE IT, AS IT DID IN 1936 WHEN WE HAD AN UNPRECEDENTED MAJORITY
OF DEMOCRATS, ANDr 1 N ' T938 IT SWUNG BACK.
SO WHILE WE WERE DISAPPOINTED TO SEE SOME OF OUR FRIENDS LOSE,
I CAN'T THINK A PRESIDENT SHOULD BE TOO UNHAPPY AFTER HE HAD HAD
THE RESULTS THAT WE HAVE' HAD-IN 1963, I96H, 1965 AND 1966. WE HAVE
HAD A; REASONABLY G'OGDfTIME TO MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND TO
GET MOST OF THEM ACTED UPON.
Xs7IT MAY BE PERTINENT TO OBSERVE THAT WHEN I BECAME PRESIDENT YlN •
1963 WE HAD ABOUT 256 MEMBERS OF THE WHITE HOUSE. WE WILL PROBABLY
HAVE FIVE, SIX OR' SEVEN LESS NOW.
•'•
WE HAD A REASONABLY GOOD PROGRAM, AS YOU WILL REMEMBER, IN 1963.
AND 1964.
..- I WOULD. EXPECT THAT WE WILL HAVE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FAVORABLY;
ACTED.UPON IN MOST INSTANCES, WHERE THEY ARE DESERVING.
• LWOULD LIKE-TO:;P0T'NT OUT ONE OTHER THING, THAT ON MOST OF
THE ROLL CALLS ON--PASSAGE OF WHAT YOU WOULD CALL GREAT SOCIETY. .
BILLS, IF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE MERITORIOUS, THAT THEY WI LLY COMMAND. •S.UPPpRTT FROM SOME OF THEM IN THE DAYS AHEAD.
Q: MR. PRESIDENT, ON SUNDAY YOU MADE AN APPEAL FOR THE VOTERS
TO REPUDIATE, THE ,.,'.'WHITE BACKLASH" IN THE ELECTION. COULD YOU TELL
US TO WHAT EXTENT YpU THINK.THE BACKLASH DID PLAY A PART IN THE
VOTING? ,
Y--YY;
THE PRESIDENT: THAT; IS A LITTLE-BIT DIFFICULT TO APPRAISE,,AL.
I DON'T-THINK I AM REALLY IN A POSITION TO BE AN AUTHORi TY ON
JUST WHAT THE RESULTY OF MY APPEAL WAS OR THE EXPRESSION OF--THE VOTERS
IN EACH. OF THE STATES.
I JUST DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO IT.

I DON'T KNOW.

I WOULD SAY THAT YOU COULD LOOK AT THE STATES WHERE YOU HAD
SOMEE-PROBLEMS OF THAT KIND AND-SEE THE' ACTION TAKEN. WITHOUT
GETTING SPECIFIC, I THINK IT DID PLAY'SOME PART, BUT I WOULDN'T
SAY IT.WAS THE ONLY. FACTOR AT:RALL.,,; ,-,
THERE WERE A GOOD MANY FACTORS, IF YOU WILL LOOK OVER THE LIST,
I THINK.,IT IS ONLY FAIR TO SAY THAT THE-SUBSTANTIAL REDUCTIONS OF
DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMEN.OCCURRED I.N STATES WHERE THEY HAD A POPULAR
LEADER;,OF THE REPUBL-I CAN PARTY .
IN...QHIO, GOVERNOR ..RHODES HAD A GREAT MAJORITY AND HAS BEEN A
TVERYYEFFECTIVE LEADER-OFY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, A VERY POPULAR ONE
AND VERY COOPERATIVE WITH OUR ADMINISTRATION; AND WITH ME PERSONALLY,
HE MADE THE MOTION, YOU WILL REMEMBER, ON VIETNAM AT THE GOVERNORS
CONFERENCE,YAND THINGS OF THAT KIND.
WE LOST FIVE SEATS THERE BECAUSE HE RAN HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS
AHEAD- OF'VH IS OPPONENT.
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THE SAME THING WAS TRUE IN CALIFORNIA WHERE WE LOST, I BELIEVE,
^ H R E E SEATS BECAUSE GOVERNOR REAGAN HAD A SUBSTANTIAL MAJORITY IN
HIS ELECTION.
:

"'IN MICHIGAN, GOVERNOR ROMNEY GOT ALMOST 60 PERCENT OF THE VOTES.

WHAT HAPPENEDafN tTHE,-STATE THIS TIME WAS WHAT HAPPENED IN THE
NATION -IN I.96H: WHENE THE -HEAD OF THE TICKET HAS-. A COMMAND I NG LEAD,,
THE' OTHER MEN ON THE -JJ GKET SOMETIMES BENEFIT FROM IT.
I AM NOT COMMENT I NG'-ON THE QUALITY OF THE FIVE REPUBLICANS
ELECTED, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY WERE HURT BY THE FACT THAT GOVERNOR'
ROMNEY HAD A 59 OR 60 PERCENT VOTE.
SO REAGAN, RHODES AND ROMNEY ACCOUNT FOR 25 OR 30 PERCENT OF THE
TOTAL.
IN OTHER INSTANCES YOU HAD VACANCIES AND YOU HAD MEN DYING
-BEFORE THEIR ELECTION. YOU HAD MEN AFTER THEY HAD GOTTEN THEIR
•NOMINATIONS NOT RUNNING IT OUT -~ THINGS OF THAT KIND, ONE OR TWO.
. IN OUR STATE WE LOST TWO; IN VIRGINIA WE LOST TWO; IN WISCONSINY
WE LOST TWO.
BUT AS I HAVE OBSERVED TO YOU BEFORE, THE CHRISTIAN SCIENCE
MONITOR MADE A STUDY OF THIS QUESTION.
SAVILLE DAVIS CAME TO OUR OFFICE AND BROUGHT ME THE RESULTS OF
SOME OF HIS STUDIES. HE CARRIED THEM BACK TO l840. THEY SHOWED
AN AVERAGE OF 41 PER YEAR. • SOME OF THE HIGH YEARS WERE WITH
PRESIDENT ROOSEVELT, WHEN HE CARRIED EVERY STATE OF THE'UNION,
EXCEPT MAINE AND VERMONT, IN 1936. I BELIEVE HE LOST 86 VOTES IN
I938. THAT WAS ABOUT THE TIME I CAME INTO CONGRESS. I REMEMBER
THAT VERY CLEARLY.
ON OTHER OCCASIONS THEY HAVE LOST 60.' PRESIDENT EISENHOWER
SERVED ONLY TWO YEARS BEFORE HE LOST THE CONGR.ESS.ENT I RELY.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, A FELLOW WORKING FOR ME THE OTHER MORNING-,
AFTER LISTENING. THE NIGHT BEFORE, THOUGHT WE HAD LOST THE CONGRESS
ENTIRELY'. AS A MATTER OF FACT, HE THOUGHT ALL DEMOCRATS, WERE ' GONE .
I ASKED HIM WHAT HE THOUGHT ABOUT THE ELECTION, AND HE SAID,
"I AM SURE: SORRY TO SEE THEM TAKE THE HOUSE OF REPRESENT ATI VES
y AND, THE SENATE.".
WELL, WE STILL HAVE 248 OR 250 MEMBERS. ' THAT-' IS:SOMETHI NG TO
BEAR IN.MIND., THEY MAY HAVE TO BE A LITTLE CLOSER, KNIT,- THEY MAY
HAVE TO..HAVE. FEWER-ABSENTEES AND THINGS.
'• . '
BUT A PRESIDENT THAT CAN'T LEAD WITH A 25O-85 WOULD'HAVE HIS
PROBLEMS.WITH; 260rOR 270. I AM HOPEFUL THAT MOST OF OUR LEGISLATION
THAT WE RECOMMENDED HAS BEEN ACTED UPON REASONABLY BI-PARTISAN.; I
HAVE.NO REASON TO THINK IT WON'T BE NEXT YEAR.
. Q:„.MR. PRESIDENT, IS THERE ANYTHING FURTHER YOU- CAN TELL US'AT;
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THE PRESIDENT;: NO. IT WILL TAKE PLACE NEXT WEEK. SO^ YOU., •'
DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THIS WEEK.
WHERE, THE DOCTORS HAVE NOT,DECIDED YET. WE HAVE SEVERAL DOCTORS
LIVING IN VARIOUS PLACES THAT WILL NEED TO BE THERE. DR. BURKLEY
IS NOW CONFERRING WITH THEM AND TALKING TO THEM, TRYING TO GET
THEIR SCHEDULE ON A DATE THAT THEY CAN AGREE ON, SOMETIME, WE HOPE,
IN LESS THAN THE 15-TO 20-DAY PERIOD THAT WE OR IGINALLY THOUGHT.
JUST WHAT DAY-, IT WILL BE, WE DON'T KNOW.
I THINK YOU. CAN BE
C O M F O R T A B L E Y O V E R THE WEEKEND HERE, AT LEAST THROUGH SUNDAY.
BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU WILL BE BUSY AT.A HOSPITAL IN THE
EARLY PART OF THE WEEK RIGHT NOW OR NOT.
JUST AS SOON AS WE DO,
WE WILL TELL YOU. WE W I L L GIVE YOU AMPLE NOTICE.
Q: MR. PRESIDENT, COULD YOU TELL US SOM' ETHING ABOUT YOUR
;
PHYSICAL COMFORT NOW? ARE YOU FEELING WELL?
THE PRESIDENT: YES, I FEEL F I N E .
I S T I L L HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS.
THIS WOULD JUST BE A REPEAT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST TRANSCRIPT,
WE HAVE A LITTLE HUSK I NESS IN THE VOICE YOU MAY BE ABLE TO OBSERVE
AND A LITTLE PULLING ON THE S I D E , THE PROTRUSION.
IT IS ACTUALLY
A PULL ON THE INNER WALL WHERE THE INCISION WAS.MADE.
IT IS
LIKE YOU HAVE A LITTLE WEIGHT ON -YOUR ARM.
IN CARRYING IT AROUND,
IT PULLS ON YOU, AND SOMETIMES WHEN YOU GET UP IT BOTHERS YOU.
I HAVE NOT BEEN WEARING. A BACK REST FOR THE LAST TWO OR THREE- DAYS.
IT IS A LITTLE- MORE COMFORTABLE.
I FORGOT TO PUT IT ON. IF I.
HAD KNOWN YOU WERE GOING TO BE HERE ON THIS OCCASION THIS MORNING-,
I WOULD HAVE; DRESSED FOR. I T .
BUT-'IT

IS MORE COMFORTABLE WHEN YOU DON'T WEAR

IT.

Q: IN TERMS OF YOUR GREAT SOCIETY PROGRAM, WHEN THE 9OTH
CONGRESS'MEETS, DO YOU THINK YOU WILL HAVE A LOT OF NEW PROGRAMS
OR ARE YOU LOOKING TO THE FUTURE WITH PLANS OF ADDING ON AND EXPANDING
THE. PROGRAM THAT YOU HAVE HAD IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS?
, ; f H E PRESIDENT: WE WILL HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS IN OUR STATE OF THE
UNION MESSAGE THAT WILL EXPAND AND ENLARGE SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS
WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY MADE.;,
UNQUESTIONABLY SOME OF THEM WILL BE NEW RECOMMENDATIONS.
I ;'
THINK MY PRINCIPAL JOB RIGHT AT THE MOMENT IS TO TRY TO FIND A WAY TO
FUND THE PROGRAMS WE HAVE AUTHOR I ZED.
AS I SAID "TO YOU IN FREDERICKSBURG THE OTHER DAY, WE HAVE
AUTHORIZED SOME FORTY NEW HEALTH AND EDUCATION'PROGRAMS. WE HAVE
QUITE A PROBLEM,.IN FUNDING THAT MANY.
''''
WE WILL NOT FUND MOST OF THE PROGRAMS AT THE AMOUNT AUTHORIZED
BECAUSE WE ARE:VERY ANXIOUS TO BEGIN SLOWLY AND CAREFULLY, AND FORM
THE PROPER KIND OF ORGANIZATION BEFORE WE' GO THE L I M I T , AS ALREADY
APPROVED BY THE CONGRESS.

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-12I WOULD THINK THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS THIS YEAR WILL BE LESS
THAN THE ONES OF LAST YEAR, AS THE ONES LAST YEAR WERE LESS THAN
THE YEAR BEFORE.
BUT WE WILL HAVE NEW RECOMMENDATIONS. WE WILL BE BRIEFING THE
MEMBERS OF CONGRESS ON THEM FROM TIME TO TIME.
I HOPE TO HAVE A CHANCE TO VISIT WITH THE MOST OF THE NEW
MEMBERS IN THE EARLY DAYS OF THE SESSION, CERTAINLY WITH THE
LEADERSHIP OF BOTH PARTIES.
I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE ANY GREAT
TROUBLE.
A 65 MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE AND A 30 MAJORITY IN THE
SENATE IS A REASONABLE WORKING MAJORITY.
AS I TOLD YOU, IN SIX OF THE EIGHT YEARS THE REPUBLICANS
SERVED, THEY HAD A MINORITY IN BOTH HOUSES. THE SPEAKER AND ALL
THE ORGANIZATION AND COMMITTEE CHAIRMEN.
SO WHILE I MUST BE FRANK, I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN EVERY
DEMOCRAT ELECTED, BUT WE ONLY LOST ONE INCUMBENT IN THE
SENATE. I EXPECT THE SENATE WILL GET ALONG REASONABLY WELL WITH 64
INSTEAD OF 67.
I HOPE THE HOUSE WILL BE ABLE TO. WE LOST TWO COMMITTEE CHAIRMEN.
WE WiLL HAVE A FRESHMAN REPUBLICAN SUCCEEDING JUDGE SMITH
AND A FRESHMAN REPUBLICAN SUCCEEDING MR. COOLEY.
BUT i BELIEVE WITH 250 MEMBERS, SPEAKER MCCORMACK, MR. ALBERT
AND MR. BOGGS WILL BE ABLE TO GET ADEQUATE AND FAIR CONSIDERATION
FOR THE PRESIDENT'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
I THINK THEY WILL BE DULY ACTED UPON.
MR. KILPATRICK?
Q: MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS NOT A MILITARY QUESTION. WOULD YOU
COMMENT ON THE REPORTS THAT AMERICAN FORCES MAY MOVE INTO THE DELTA?
THE PRESIDENT: NO, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SPECULATE ON ABOUT
WHEN, WHAT, OR WHERE OUR FORCES MIGHT MOVE.

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