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Copy No. 5 of five copies. 1
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RECORD OF THE EIGHTH MEETING BETWEEN
REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CANADIAN AND
. UNITED STATES GOVERNMENTS TO ASSESS .
THE WORLD SITUATION AND THE RISK OF WAR,
FRIDAY, JANUARY 30, 1953.

The meeting, which was held in the office
of the Director of the Policy Planning Staff of the
State Department, was attended by
Mr. Paul Nitze,
Mr. Frederick Nolting,.
Mr, R. Gordon Arneson, and
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for the United States Government and by
Mr. H. H. Wrong,
Mr. George Ignatiff, and

Mr. D. LePan

for the Canadian Government.
Mr. Freeman Matthews,
the Deputy Under-Secretary, who, usually attends these .
meetings, was absent due to pressure of work because:
of Mr. Dulles’s departure for Europe that day.
Mr.
Nolting of Mr. Matthews’ office attended instead.

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Mr. Wrong enquired whether the S.A.C. arrangements which had been agreed, with particular reference
to Goose Bay, had been working satisfactorily since the:
last meeting.
It was agreed by the United States ,
representatives that the, arrangements had been working
satisfactorily.
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REVIEW OF WORLD SITUATION AND RISKS OF WAR

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Mr. Wrong enquired whether the United States
authorities had altered in any way their appreciation
of the risks of war or their estimate of /period of
maximum danger since the last meeting.
He referred
particularly to the meeting of the Soviet Party Congress
in Moscow and the accompanying statements by Stalin,
which at least provided some basis for the conjecture
that the Soviet Government was counting upon the Western.
. Allies falling out among themselves rather than expecting
an attack upon itself.
He said that'there had been:
some disposition in Western Europe as well as in Canada
to draw the inference from this statement that the
danger of a general war. at, least in the immediate
Mr. Nitze replied
future, had receded to some extent.
that the U.S. authorities were willing to draw encouragement from Stalin’s statement only as itconcenned the
immediate future.
The U.S. authorities attached more
importance to the assessment of Soviet capability of
attack than iton any inferences regarding Soviet
intentions that might be drawn from statements by Soviet
leaders.
The Soviet leaders. had shown in the past that
they were capable of making very rapid changes in their
intent.
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Turning to the possible significance of the
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current and prospective purges in the Soviet Union and .
the satellite countries, Mr* Wrong asked whether the’
State Department was prepared to draw any inferences
from these developments, as they might affect the risk
Mr. Nitze said that the State Department was .
of war.
frankly at a loss to form any firm appreciation of the
significance of these developments. Onithe one hand, they'
could be regarded as evidence of internal weakness; on
the other hand, they might possibly point to preparation . .
for war by rooting out weaknesses on the home front.
An early assumption that the trial of the Soviet doctors
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of fieri a, the Chief of Secret Police, does not seem to
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have been.borne put by the fact that recently he has
been shown signs of official favour, having accompanied
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Stalin to the theatre in Moscow.
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Turning to developments in Soviet policy

towards Germany, Mr. Wrong recalled that in previous

discussions the thought had been expressed that Soviet ..
reactions to the re-armament?of Western Germany might
take the form either of violent Soviet response against
the West, or the incorporation of Eastern Germany into
Mr. Wrong asked,
the Soviet orbit as a satellite.
whether the State Department had formed any judgment
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of the trends in Soviet policy towards Germany.
Nitze replied that on the whole the trend had been
towards the full incorporation of the Eastern Zone in ;
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Germany as a Soviet satellite. . The present danger
lay in the efforts of the Soviet authorities to
incorporate the East Zone of Berlin into the Eastern *
This would
Zone of Germany, and thus divide Berlin.
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produce serious problems for the Western Occupying
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Powers in Berlin.,

Turning to recent developments in the Far East, ..
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Mr. Wrong observed that the intentions of the United
States Government seemed both as important and obscure .
for the purposes of this discussion as the intentions ;
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of the Soviet Government. Mr. Nitze said that he was
not in a position at the present time to say anything about,
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With regard
the policies of the new Administration.
to Korea, the most that he would say was that, the State .
Department attached .some significance to the fact that ■
the Chinese Communists in their broadcastshad made no
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reference in recent months to the prisoner-of-war issue.
' He recalled that when the armistice negotiations at
. Panmunjom had been concerned with the 38th parallel as ...
the main issue, the Chinese Communists had likewise
refrained from commenting on this question in their,
Mr. Nitze said that this fact might
radio broadcasts.
at least suggest the possibility that the Chinese
Communists were re-examining, the prisonereof-war issue.
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So far as the question of the discussion of the Korean
issue by the General Assembly when it re-convenes was
concerned, Mr. Nitze said that the United States
authorities would be under strict limitation in so far .
as their choice of action was concerned, as the Indian 7
. Resolution adopted at the previous meeting represented
just about "as far as the United States Government was ,
prepared to go in the matter of concession on the .
prisoner-of-war issue.
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. Turning to Indo-China, Mr. Nitze said that
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continued at about the same level' in material.
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6 . t ; 8. '. Mr. Nitze said that there was one new. item, s
of busines s whi ch he wished to bring rup as a matter to
. which the United States Government at the highest . 1
level attached urgency and importance. . He said that li
there had been growing concern in the United States — f.
.Government, at the state of vulnerability, of the United - 1
States to surprise attack from the air involving perhaps .
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the use of atomic weapons. He said that this vulner/ ' : . ability was not regarded solely from a military stand-: .
point, but also because of its importance in regard to
’ . civil defence as well as from the point of view of its /
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international political implications. He explained / ‘z;
that in the opinion of the U.S. authorities, so long 111
as the Soviet Government were aware that they had the
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United States, a strong temptation existed which
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— would act as a deterrent to war as well as providing 7
" for the defence of the civilian population of the
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which they, would have in both aspects of,the proposal i
which he-was under instruction to make toxsubntexax in a
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diplomatic note setting forth proposals for a project :
designed, by the establishment of an early warning * .
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system in the Far North, to improve the air defences
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After submitting the State Department note, J
dated January 30th, copies, of which are being transmitted :
• separately, Mr. Nitze made comments on some of the more 5
- important points made in this note. He observed that
- the note makes a point of the fact that in the view of
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be given by the existing joint radar system at the
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in the Far North is to provide the Civil Defence at ... • t
: least five hours’ warning of impending attack from the
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The essential feature of the proposed construc-..
. tion of an eerly warning system would be to provide .
' thi s. extra warning.
It was not conceived primarily
as a measure of military defence, to be considered in .
. terras of the necessity of providing aircraft and other 1.
4 equipment required for interception. The immediate . / '
..X planproposes that, three stations should be built
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Canadian Government to this proposal could be received
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. an early warning system in theFar North. Mr. Nitze
said that the present plans, which had been worked out "
by the. Research and Development officials in the United
States Government, contemplated thirteen additional" :
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stations (i.e., fifteen in all, if the two experimental
stations now proposed are included in the full chain)
which would stretch from Hers chel Island to Thule in —
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Mr. Nitze said that the capital and con- '
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gstruction cost of' each station was estimated to be
approximately #3 millions. . The whole project, including.
/- the chain in the Far North and the stations on the .
flanks, it was estimated, would cost about $300 millions.
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. .Government.. Mr. Wrong replied that this question would .
no doubt have to be considered by Cabinet in the light .
of reports andappreciations prepared by the military .
am and scientific advisers of the Canadian Government. . .
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