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NAMARA HAD DECIDED UPON WAS NOT RPT NOT SELECT CTTEE BUT A SELFSELECTED CTTEE AND REMARKED ON MACNAMARAS DESIRE FOR AS SMALL MTG
AS POSSIBLE. HE ADDED THAT USA PARTICIPATION WOULD.PROBABLY BE LTD TO
FOUR CONSISTING OF MACNAMARA,CHIEF OF STAFF WHEELER MCNAUGHTON
OF SECS STAFF AND CLEVELAND.PRESENT THINKING WAS THAT FOLLOW ON
AND CONTINUITY BETWEEN MTGS WOULD'BE THROUGH.PERMREPS HERE. ;

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4.gKSTIONS-OF DATE AND COMPOSITION WERE THEN DISCUSSED. ON COMh^ITION NINE COUNTRIES SAID THEY WOULD PARTICIPATE:USA UK GERMANY
CDA NETHERLANDS ITALY GREECE TURKEY-BELGIUM; THREE COUNTRIES WERE
WITHOUT INSTRUCTIONS DENMARK NORWAY AND FRANCE;AND THREE COUNTRIES
LUXEMBOURG PORTUGAL AND ICELAND
SAID THEY WOULD NOT RPT NOT PARTICIPATE.BELGIAN PERMREP SAID THAT
NEW CONCEPT'OF PARTICIPATION ON BASIS OF INTEREST MADE IT* EXTREMELY DIFFICULT FOR ANY COUNTRY NOT RPT NOT TO PARTICIPATE.
SCANDINAVIANS EXPRESSED SIMILAR VIEWS REMARKING THAT THEY WERE QUITE
PREPARED NOT RPT NOT TO PARTICIPATE IN CTTEE OF FOUR \0R FIVE BUTCTTEE OF EIGHT OR.NINE WAS ANOTHER MATTER.CLEVELAND AND OTHERS
EMPHASIZED THAT-DECISION NOT RPT NOT.TO PARTICIPATE SHOULD IN NO
NO WAY BE CONSIDERED AS EXPRESSION OF LACK OF INTEREST AND HE
REFERRED TO PROPOSED ARRANGEMENTS FOR KEEPING COUNCIL INFORMED
WHICH STILL APPLIED.SECGEN THEN REVERTED TO IDEA OF OPEN ENDED CTTEE
BUT THIS WAS RECEIVED WITH LITTLE ENTHUSIASM. CLEVELAND REMARKED
THAT IN HIS VIEW COMPOSITION WOULD CONSIST OF THOSE WHO ATTENDED
FIRST MTG BUT HE COULD NOT RPT NOT CONCEIVE THAT THOSE DEFENCE
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