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AT USUAL LUNCHEON MTG OF PERMREPS AT HARLAN CLEVELANDS TODAY THERE
WAS FURTHER INFORMAL DISCUSSION.ON WHAT THE QUOTE SELF-SELECTED
UNQUOTE CTTEE OF DEFENCE MINISTERS MIGHT DO INITIATED BY CLEVELAND,
I WAS INTERESTED TO FIND THAT CLEVELANDS MIND WAS FGCUSSED ON THE
ROLE OF NAC IN CONSULTATIONS CONCERNING AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF
NUCLEAR WEAPONS (A POINT RAISED IN MEMO GIVEN TO THE STATE DEPT
LAST APR) . A S WELL AS AS WITH THE PROBLEM OF IMPROVING COMMUNICATIONS,
2.CLEVELAND EXPLAINED THAT HIS APPROACH WAS MUCH INFLUENCED BY
HIS RESPONSIBILITIES IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS IN PARTICIPATING IN
WHITE HOUSE CONFERENCES IN REGARD TO VARIOUS INTERNATL CRISES.
IN EACH OF THESE CRISES THE PRESIDENT WAS MUCH CONCERNED TO KNOW
WHAT THE REACTIONS OF HIS ALLIES WERE TO THE SITUATION AND ACTION
PROPOSED*
3.CLEVELAND THEREFORE SAID THAT IN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ROLE OF
NAC HE WOULD HOPE TO GE ANSWERS.. IN THE FIRST INSTANCE TO TWO QUESTIONS:CA&gt;HOW TO ESTABLISH AN ADEQUATE BASIS TO BE ABLE TO REPORT
TO THE PRESIDENT WHAT THE ALLIES THOUGHT ABOUT ANY GIVEN C R I S I S
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ACCURATELY AND AS'PROMPTLY ..AS POSSIBLE.IN DISUCSSION THERE WAS
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G ^ R A L AGREEMENT THAT WHILE NAC-CONSTITUTED THE'ONLY MULTILATERAL
MECHANISM FOR COLLECTIVE DISCUSSION AMONG MEMBERS OF ALLIANCE
PRACTICAL ARRANGEMENTS WERE. NOT RPT NOT ADEQUATE TO ENSURE THAT
THIS TOOK PLACE EFFECTIVELY AND. THAT RESULTS COULD BE TRANSMITTED TO GOVTS PRGMPTLY.THERE WAS^ GENERAL AGREEMENT ALSO THAT NAC
DID NOT RPT NOT HAVE AN EXECUTIVE ROLE IN REGARD TO AUTHORIZATION
FOR USE OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS BUT ONLY CONSULTATIVE ONE.
4,CL£VELAND SAID THAT HE HADASKEty GEN LEMNITZER FROM WHOM HE
WOULD SEEK GOVTL AUTHORIZATION "FOR"USE OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS AND
FOUND THAT SACEUR AND HIS STAFF HAD NO RPT NO PRECISE ANSWER.
SOME AT SHAPE APPARENTLY THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE CONVEYED
. THROUGH NATO COUNCIL BUT THIS WAS APPARENTLY NOT RPT NOT GENERALLY
REGARDED AS REALISTIC; ALT HO UGH NONE DENIED A CERTAIN CONSULTATIVE
ROLE,
5.CLEVELAND ALSO STRESSED THAT THE PROCESS OF CONSULTATION AND
PROCEDURES FOR IMPROVED COMMUNICATCON WERE IN HIS VIEW ESSENTIALLY
INTERRELATED*HE INDICATED ALSO THAT THERE WAS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT
IN HIS METHODS OF COMMUNICATION WITH WASHDC SINCE APPARENTLY HE
CAN SEND ONLY TOP PRIORITY MSGS DIRECT AND I S DEPENDENT ON USA EMB
COMCERTRE FOR REST OF TRAFFIC .WiilCH HE ADMITTED COULD BE STOPPED IN

' EVENT OF-CIVIL DISTURBANCE IN FRANCE,
6 . H I S COMMUNICATIONS ARE SUPaEMENTED BY PHONE COMMUNICATIONS AS .
ARE THOSE1 OF A NUMBER OF OTHER MISSIONS NOTABLY GERMAN ITALIAN AND

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NETORLANDS WHICH APPARENTLY HAVE RADIO COMMUNICATIONS AS WELL,
7 . 1 REPORT THIS DISCUSSION TO-SUPPLEMENT REFTEL AS ENCOURAGING
CONFIRMATION THAT SPECIAL CTTEE&gt; ON NUCLEAR MATTERS WHEN IT MEETS
JUDGING FROM THIS PRELIMINARY TALK MAY COME TO GRIPS WITH SOME OF
THE PRACTICAL QUESTIONS WHICH HAVE BEEN INTERESTING US AND HAVE
JUSTIFIED OUR INSISTENCE ON PARTICIPATION.
8.CLEVELAND ALSO MENTIONED THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FOR MR
MCNAMARAS GUIDANCE AS SOON'AS* POSSIBLE WHAT DATES MIGHT BE ACCEPTABLE TO OTHERS IN THE RANGE OF £ 3 TO '26 NOV AS MR MCNAMARAS
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