https://declassified.library.utoronto.ca/files/original/a5da2c904fe6d3665aa84d32aa14690c.pdf a03801dcbc1a672ebb847987ddeedcf2 PDF Text Text • Classification Document disclosed under the Access to Information Act Document divulgue en vertu de la LQiJU^fce^a/informatiori . 50)/.60 , ograded tossom-uthorityamomo of 127/13/68 1 0 APPENDIX 26 / g** Jbti wasssa: yr mm"mmw!e rnov stE t / FM WASH DC JUN 7/6 5/78 EC BACON 1 0ga / TO EXTERNALZATT ARNOLD SMITH AND FAREAST DIV)IHED ****** *-m0 ”r "**** y -- .. ... J INFO TT SAIGO(FOR SEABORN)DIRECT PRIORITY DE OTT REF SAIGON TEL 462 JUN 4 MSGS TO AND FRO DRVN WILLIAM BUNDY, ASST SEC FOR FAREAST,TO WHOM I GAVE COPY OF REFTZL TEIS M ORN ING, EXPRESSED GREAT APPRECIATION FOR SEABORES REPORT.HE THEN WENT ON TO DISCUSS TACTICAL DIFFICULTIES FOR USA ADMIN WHICH MIGHT ARISE FROM FACT THAT FRENCH WERE NOW SPREADING A RATHER DIFFERENT AND,HE FFLT, ISLEADIN S ACCOUNT OF DRVN THINKING BASED ON REMARKS ALLEGEDLY MADE EY DRVN REP IN PARIS MAY 18. 2. AS INDICATED IN PARAS KYTEL 1744 MAY28, I HAD RAISED WITH BUNDY LAST WEEK REPORT IN CI-BULLETIN FOR MAY24 ABOUT APPROACH EY NVN REP IN PARIS TO FRENCH ON MAY18. BUNDY WAS OBVIOUSLY TAKEN ABACK TO LEARN THAT CIA HAD BRIEFED US ON THIS CONVERSATION, BUT HE 'RALLIED QUICKLY AND GAVE ME CONFIRMATORY ACCOUNT CONVEYED IN MYTEL 1744. 3. THIS MORNING EUNDY, IN OBVIOUS EMBARRASSMENT, REVERTED TO ABOVEMENTIONED INCIDENT AND EXPRESSED REGRET THAT USA AUTHORITIES,IM THEIR PREPARED BRIEF FOR SEABORN,HAD NOT RPT NOT FELT ABLE TO PROVIDE A COMPLETELY FRANK ACCOUNT OF THEIR DEALINGS WITH DRVN,UNTIL I RAISED SUBJECT IN MANNER- DESCRIBED IN PREVIOUS PARA.HE SAID USA HAD OF COURSE MADE NO RPT NO MENTION OF CDN CHANNEL TO FRENCH. REASON FOR INITIAL USA RESERVE WITH US HAD SEEN THAT THEY WISHED TO SEE WHETHER A NEW CHANNEL WAS IN FACT ABOUT TO OPEN UP AT INITIATIVE 0 DRVN. ...2 000246 I �Document disclosed under the Access to Information Act Document divulgue en vertu de la Loi sur l'acces a I'information PAGE TWO 1865 ./ 4. BUNDY THEN RECAPITULATED DRVN APPROACH TO FRENCH AS FOLLOWS.ON MAY2(TWO DAYS AFTER BOMBING HAD RESUMED FOLLOWING PAUSE)FRENCH (LUC ET) I NF ORE ED US; THAT ON MORNING OF MAY18 BO, DRVN REP IN PARIS, /lut( / c- /c •, (24— ■ SOUGHT INTERVIEW WITH THEE, DEVIOUSLY ON INSTRUCT! ONS.( ALTHOUGH BRIBING HAD STARTED AGAIN ON NIGHT OF MAY17-18,B0 NAY NOT RPT NOT HAVE KNOWN THIS, AND HIS INSTRUCTIONS WERE UNDOUBTEDLY SENT DURING PAUSE).FIRST PART OF BOS COMMUNICATION WAS TO CONVEY IN FAMILIAR TERNS DRVN OBJECTIONS TO INDIAN PROPOSAL FOR AFRO-ASIAN FORCE. SECOND PART CONSISTED OF REITERATION OF PHAN VAN DONGS FOUR POINTS,BUT WHEREAS MOST DRVN PUBLIC STATEMENTS HAD INDICATED THAT THESE POINTS WERE THE ESSENTIAL OR THE ONLY BASIS FOR SETTLEMENT, BO WAS QUOTED BY FRENCH AS SAYING MERELY THAT THESE POINTS WERE THE QUOTE BEST UNQUOTE BASIS FOR SETTLEMENT. (BUNDY•TERMED THIS A QUOTE SHADING OF WORDING UNQUOTE).30 THEN REPORTEDLY WENT ON TO SAY THAT IF THERE WERE AGREEMENT ON THESE BASES OF NEGOTIATION, WAYS AND DEANS COULD BE FOUND IN PEACEFUL MANNER.WHEN FRENCH ASKED WHETHER USA WITHDRAWAL COULD BE DEPENDENT ON CONCLUSION OF A • NEGOTIATIONS IE WHETHER USA WITHDRAWAL UNDER HANOIS POINT I COULD COME LAST INSTEAD OF FIRST),BO ANSWERED AFF IRMATIVELY, AND IN tkr , 9“ |P . : (ck Mohr ■ U / RESPONSE TO FURTHER QUESTION SAID THAT HIS ANSWER WAS BASED ON INSTPUCTIONS. BUNDY POINTED OUT THAT IT COULD BE ARGUED THAT THIS REPRESENTED A STEP FORWARD ON PART OF DRVN,SO THAT IT WAS OF PART- ICULAR- INTEREST THAT DRVN FOREIGN MINISTER,HAD WAFFLED ON THE SAME POINT IN TALKING TO SEABORN (PARA3 REF TEL). 5.FRENCH DID NOT RPT NOT ATTEMPT TO DRAW OUT BO FURTHER ON QUESTION 0.63 000247 �Document disclosed under the Access to Information Act Document divulgue en vertu de la Loi sur l'acces a I'information PAGE THREE 1863 AS TO WHETHER ACCEPTANCE 'OR RECOGNITION OF 4 POINTS BY USA WAS A FIRM DRVN CONDITION FOR NEGOTIATIONS.HERE AGAIN EVASIVE REPLY RECEIVED BY SEABORN WAS OF INTEREST. 64 BUNDY SAID USA DID NOT RPT NOT RETURN ANY REPLY THROUGH FRENCH, IN PART BECAUSE USA OFFICIALS WERE NOT RPT NOT CONFIDENT THAT FRENCH COULD BE COUNTED ON TO PRESENT AMERICAN VIEWPOINT WITH PRECISION OR IMPARTIALITY. 70 BUNDY SAID THAT FRENCH HAD GIVEN ACCOUNT OF BOS REMARKS TO BRIT AND AUSTRALIANS KNEW THROUGH THEM;FRENCH MIGHT ALSO .DIFFUSE THEIR ACCOUNT MORE WIDELY ON DIPLO CIRCUIT,SO USA HAD TOLD SVN CQT.HIGHLY AWKWARD ASPECT WAS THAT FRENCH WERE ACCOMPANYING THEIR ACCOUNT WITH A GLOSS TO THE EFFECT THAT THIS DEMONSTRATED THAT DURING PAUSE DRVN HAD BEEN READY FOR NEGOTIATIONS WITHOUT PRE• CONDITIONS.USA AUTHORITIES(AND PRIVATELY SOME FRENCH OFFICIALS) ’DID NOT RPT NOT. CONSIDER THAT BOS REMARKS WARRANTED THIS INTER- PRETATI ON, PARTICULARLY WHEN DRVN HAD DENOUNCED PAUSE IN PUBLIC SO 9 STRONGLY. M ORE. SERIOUS WAS. FACT THAT A FRENCH OFFICIALCANACH)HAD GIVEN SIMILAR ACCOUNT TO SOME USA SENATORS, ADDING UNTRUTH THAT DRVN ESG WAS DELIVERED PRI OR. TO RESUMPTION OF BOMBING; IN FACT, AS ALREADY INDICATED, BOMBING HAD STARTED BY TIME FRENCH WERE APPROACHED,AND THEY ONLY TOLD USA TWO DAYS LATER.I REMARKED THAT BOS MORE CONCILIATORY STATEMENT WAS MADE WHEN HE SUPPOSED THE PAUSE STILL TO BE IN EFFECT,WHEREAS THE MORE UNSATISFACTORY STATEMENT MADE TO SEABORN WAS MADE AFTER RESUMPTION OF THE BOMBING. . .. 4 2-7 000248 �Document disclosed under the Access to Information Act Document divulgue en vertu de la Loi sur l'acces a I'information PAGE FOUR 1363 S.AS ONE SENATOR HAD ALREADY REFERRED TO BO-FRENCH EXCHANGE IN A ■ CLOS-ED SENATE HEARING, BUNDY VAS CONCERNED THAT WHOLE MATTER XIGJT BEGONE PUBLIC VERY SOON. Y 9. BUNDYS PURPOSE IN TELLING ME ALL THIS WAS'TO SOUND ME OUT ON POSSIBLE CDN REACTION IF STATE DEPT WERE TO COUNTER A FUTURE LEAF / I CN BO MSG BY MAKING PUBLIC REF TO FACT THAT CDN REP HAD RECENTLY HAD CONVERSATION WITH DRVN ON SANE POINTS AND THAT HE HAD RECEIVED EVASIVE REPLY. 10.IN REPLY I SAID THAT SPEAKING PERSONALLY I THOUGHT PROPOSAL MIGHT PRESENT DELICATE PROBLEMS IN TWO RESPECTS; (A)CIRCULATION OF COMPETING FRENCH AND CDN VERSIONS OF DRVN THINKING COULD BE ’AWKWARD ESPECIALLY SINCE FRENCH VERSION WOULD GIVE MORE FAVOURABLE INTER- PRETATION OF DRVN THINKING WHEREAS CDN VERSION WOULD BE MORE NEGATIVE,(2) DN CHANNEL MIGHT BE SPOILT FOR FUTURE USE. 11.BUNDY TOOK THE HINT AND SAID THAT PERHAPS HIS QUERY HAD BEEN SETTLED BY OUR CONVERSATION.HE THEN SHOWED ME A PROPOSED USA PRESS GUIDANCE TEL MAKING NO RPT NO REF TO ANY CDN ROLE,BUT ’ SAYING THAT USA,WHICH HAD LEARNT OF BOS APPROACH ONLY TWO DAYS LATER, HAD STUDIES HIS COMMUNICATION VERY CAREFULLY AND SAW NO RPT N REASON TO ALTER ITS CONCLUSION THAT HANOIS REACTION TO PAUSE HAD BEEN NEGATIVE. 12.BUNDY HOWEVER WONDERED ALOUD WHETHER IT MIGHT BE NECESSARY TO BRIEF ONE OR TWO SENATORS CONFIDENTIALLY ON WHAT HAD REALLY TRANS: PIRED.OUR CONVERSATION ON THIS POINT CONCLUDED WITH HIS CONFIR ATI ON THAT USA WOULD SAY NOTHING PUBLICLY. ABOUT CDN ROLE, AND THAT IF THERE WERE ANY CHANGE IN THIS POSITION HE WOULD LET ME .. .5 000249 �Document disclosed under the Access to Information Act Document divulgue en vertu de la Loi sur l'acces a/'information PASS FIVE 1663 KNOW.I THINK HOWEVER THAT WE CANNOT RPT NOT EXCLUDE POSSIBILITY THAT IF FURTHER FRENCH-INSPIRED LEAKS DEVELOP, USA ADKIN MAY TELLS US OF A DESIRE TO TALK QUIETLY TO ONE OR TWO KEY SENATORS ABOUT GENERAL TIMOR OF SEABORNS FINDING IN HANOI.INDEED IF PRESSURE DEVELOPED ON ADMIN AS A RESULT OF LEAKS THIS MGHT TAKE PLACE.IN THE CIRCUMSTANCES I SHOULD BE GRATEFUL IF YOU COULD(PROVIDED OF CAMSE THAT YOU AGREE WITH THE PERSONAL POSITION I TOOK IN PAR 10 Ab.E) INSTRUCT TO REAFFIRM IT AS OFFICIAL VIEW AND ASK STATE DEPT TO CONFIRM THAT NO RPT NO STATEMENT PUBLIC OH PRIVATE AS TO CDN ROLE WILL BE HADE WITHOUT FULL PRIOR CONSULTATION WITH US RITCiIE 000250 � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. 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