https://declassified.library.utoronto.ca/files/original/38cd34687bb9e7eebe93bdb3f01aeee2.pdf f9dd4b53aeeaf55e74728888d20f0861 PDF Text Text Document disclosed under the Access to Information Act Document divulgue en vertu de la Loi sur l'acces d I'information C APPENDIX 12 Diary Mr. .Lo . T<7 Lih Clapification dotngraded to S-CR-uthoritraneno of -*% U8.D DEPARTMENT OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS, CANADA Mr. Arnold Smith OUTGOING MESSAGE DATE SECURITY FILE 2.22-067-2 / FM: AUG 12/64 EXT OTT 2 NUMBER TO:. in f o : Y-606 WASHDC PRECEDENCE OPIIMD PRIORITY SAIGON (FOR SEABORN ONLY) (COSTNTCATTOIS: TeR SECRET BACON PT,"ASF, ROUTE DIRECT TO SAIGON.) I • Ref.: YOURTEL 2893 Subject: NORTH VIETNAM PROBLEM RAISED BY YOUR REFTEL ARISES OUT OF EMERGENCY NATURE OF DRAFTING LAST BACON MESSAGE. .THERE WAS, AS YOU SAY, NO TIME TO DISCUSS OUR DOUBTS WITH STATE DEPARTENT AND WE THOUGHT IT BEST TO GIVE SEABORN LIMITED GREEN LIGHT RATHER THAN NONE AT ALL 2. OUR DOUBTS' REGARDING POINTS D AND E WERE BASICALLY THAT IT WAS NOT VERY CLEAR WHAT THEY MEANT. POINT D SOUNDS VAGUELY OMINOUS BUT BEYOND THAT DOES NOT CONVEY A GREAT DEAL. WE DID NOT SEE HOW SEABORN COULD PUT POINT TO DRVN 'WITHOUT KNOWING HIMSELF ITS EXACT SIGNIFICANCE. (IT MAY BE THAT SULLIVAN WAS ABLE TO GIVE SEABORN FULLER BRIEFING IN SAIGON. THIS WOULD, OF COURSE, NOT MEET POINT OF OUR I-524 THAT, AS BUNDY PUT IT, WE WANT THE WHOLE SCRIPT.) LOCAL DISTRIBUTION ORIGIN ATOR NO STANDARD DIVISION Ole.. NAMr ext E..POP£bn . :9 Rev. 12/01) IF POINT D IS MEANT TO REFER ONLY Far Eastern APPROVI.D n Y PHONE 2-607 SIC... KALE 000191 �Document disclosed under the Access to Information Act Document divulgue en vertu de la Loi sur l'acces a I'information V 2 TO U.S. ASSESSMENT THAT DRVN SUPPORT IS DETERMINANT OF VIET CONG INSURGENCY, IT SEEMS TO BE SUPERFLUOUS. • VERY OBJECTIVE OF. SEABORNE MISSION IS. TO PERSUADE HANOI TO CEASE ITS SUPPORT OF VIET CONG. OUR QUALMS WITH POINI E HAD SIMILARLY TO DO WITH VAGUENESS OF THREAT. 3. WE AGREE THERE IS A PROPLEM .HERE THAT MUST BE DISCUSSED FRANKLY ITH AMERICANS. OUR COMMITMENT TO PASS MESSAGES FAITHFULLY DOES NOT MEAN WE CAN BE EXPECTED TO PLAY THE ROLE OF UNTHINKING MOUTHPIECES. WE ESTIMATED’THAT PASSING POINTS D AND E TO NORTH VIETNAMESE II OUT AMPLIFICATION WOULD HAVE REFLECTED ON SEABORN AND AFFECTED HIS POSITION NOT ONLY IN REGARD TO BACON BUT AS CANADIAN REP IN VIETNAM. WE WOULD HAVE PREFERRED TO THRASH OUT QUESTION FIRST WITH STATE DEPARTMENT BUT WERE PREVENTED FROM SO DOING BY LACK OF TIME. ( I ! WE HOPE THIS WILL NOT BE REPEATED IN PUTURE. PLEASE DISCUSS AI TH AMERICANS * A cd C 000192 � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Indochina (CDVN) Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CDVN00031 Title A name given to the resource Appendix 12 - Telegram No. Y-606 to Washington Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 12-Aug-64 Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived RG25/R219, 2017-00506-1, Box 3, Pt. 11, "A study of Canadian Policy with respect to the Vietnam Problem," Library and Archives Canada. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource LAC ATIP EA_2023_020896 Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Canadian Crown Subject The topic of the resource Vietnam Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Canada Declassified Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource PDF Language A language of the resource en