https://declassified.library.utoronto.ca/files/original/3310e0b5d834b387bcda6602eb145fdb.pdf 2078ccc1a572be803c2518972e90292d PDF Text Text I .NPEMNemtdivor ' Documentchsclosed under the Access to Information Act ' tue en vertu de la Loi sur l'acce# a I'information Classification doim graded to seom-uthorityamo of :ay/13/68 33/ • —"ACTON cOp 20>.2,2-U/67s-2. 3 •• COHCENTRE OTT THIS TEL TO BE TRANSMITTED SAIGON DIRECT FM OTT” FM WASHDC AUG8/64 EOPSEC BACON NO RPT NO DISTRIBUTION TO EXTERNAL 2872 EMERGENCY (FOR ARNOLD SMITH AND FAREAST DIV) . INFO TT SAIGON(FOR SEABORN)EMERGENCY DE OTT* . NORTH VIETNAM FOLLOWING DOCU WAS GIVEN TO US BY STATE DEPT AT 245 PM EDT WITH APOLOGIES FOR DELAY.WE UNDERSTAND-IT HAS BEEN CLEARED BY WHITE HOUSE . AND SECS OF STATE AND DEFENSE.USA AMBASSADORS IN SAIGON AND OTT ARE RECEIVING COPIES BEGINS QUOTE CDNS ARE URGENTLY ASKED TO HAVE SEABORN'DURING AUG10 VISIT MAKE FOLLOWING POINTS (AS HAVING BEEN CONVEYED TO HIM BY US GOVT SINCE AUG 6): A.RE TONKIN GULF ACTIONS,WHICH ALMOST CERTAINLY WILL COME UPS 1.THE DRV HAS STATED THAT HON NGU AND HON ME ISLANDS WERE ATTACKED JUL30.IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT USS MADDOX WAS,ALL OF THAT DAY AND INTO THE AFTERNOON OF THE NEXT DAY,OVER 100 MILES SOUTH OF THOSE ISLANDS,IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS NEAR THE 17TH PARALLEL,AND THAT DRV ATTACK ON MADDOX TOOK PLACE ON AUG2,MORE THAN TWO DAYS LATER. NEITHER MADDOX OR ANY OTHER DESTROYER WAS IN ANY WAY’ASSOCIATED WITH ANY ATTACK ON DRV ISLANDS. . 2.REGARDING AUG4 ATTACK BY DRV ON THE TWO USA DESTROYERS,AMERICANS' WERE AND ARE AT A COMPLETE LOSS TO UNDERSTAND DRV MOTIVE.THEY HAD DECIDED TO ABSORB THE AUG2 ATTACK ON THE GROUNDS THAT IT VERY WELL MIGHT HAVE BEEN RESULT. OF SOME DRV MISTAKE OR MISCALCULATION.AUG4 ATTACK, HOWEVER--FROA THE DETERMINED NATURE OF ATTACK. AS INDICATED BY THE RADAR,SONAR,AND EYE WITNESS EVIDENCE BOTH FROM THE SHIPS ' ...2 000186 �Document disclosed under the Access to Information Act . Document divulgue eh vertu de la Loisur l'acces a I'information 0 PAGE TWO 2872 AND FROM THEIR PROTECTING AIRCRAFT—WAS, IN THE AMERICAN' EYES, OBVIOUSLY DELIBERATE AND PLANNED AND ORDERED IN ADVANCE,.IN ADDITION, PREMEDITATION WAS SHOWN BY THE EVIDENCE THAT DRV CRAFT WERE WAITING IN AMBUSH FOR THE DESTROYERS.! HE ATTACK DID NOT RPT NOT SEEM TO BE IN RESPONSE TO ANY ACTION BY SOUTHVIETNAMESE, DID IT MAKE SENSE AS A TACTIC TO FURTHER ANY DIPLO OBJECTIVE.SINCE THE ATTACK TOOK PLACE AT LEAST 60 MILES FROM NEAREST LAND,THERE COULD HAVE BEEN NO RPT NO QUESTION ABOUT TERRITORIAL WATERS.ABOUT THE ONLY REASONABLE NYPOTHESIS WAS THAT NORTH VIETNAM WAS INTENT EITHER UPON MAKING IT APPEAR THAT USA WAS A QUOTE PAPER TIGER UNQUOTE OR UPON PROVOKING USA 3.AMERICAN RESPONSE WAS DIRECTED SOLELY TO PATROL CRAFT AND INSTAL® LATIONS ACTING IN DIRECT SUPPORT OF THEM.AS PRES JOHNSON STATED? QUOTE OUR RESPONSE FOR THE PRESENT WILL BE LIMITED AND FITTING. UNQUOTE. 4.IN VIEW OF UNCERTAINTY AROUSED BY THE DELIBERATE AND UNPROVOKED DRV ATTACKS OF THIS CHARACTER,USA HAS NECESSARILY’ CARRIED OUT PRECAUTIONARY DEPLOYMENTS OF ADDITIONAL AIR POWER TO SyN AND THAILAND B.RE BASIC AMERICAN POSITION? 5. MR SEABORN SHOULD AGAIN STRESS THAT USA POLICY IS SIMPLY THAT NORTHVIETNAM SHOULD CONTAIN ITSELF AND ITS AMBITIONS WITHIN THE. TERRITORY ALLOCATED TO ITS ADMIN BY THE 1954 GENEVA AGREEHEATS.Mr SHOULD STRESS THAT USA POLICY IN SOUTH VIETNAM IS TO PKESLRVE THE INTEGRITY OF THAT STATES TERRITORY AGAINST.GUERRILLA SUBVERSION: 6.NE SHOULD REITERATE THAT USA DOES NOT RPT NOT SEEK MILITARY ...3 000187 �Document disclosed under the Access to Information Act Document divulgue en vertu de la Loi sur l'acces a I'information PAGE THREE 2872 BASES IN THE AREA AND THAT USA IS NOT RPT NOT SEEKING TO OVERTHROW THE COMMUNIST REGIME IN HANOI* 7*HE SHOULD REPEAT THAT USA IS FULLY AWARE OF THE DEGREE TO WHICH HANOI CONTROLS AND DIRECTS THE GUERRILLA ACTION IN SOUTHVIETNAM AND THAT USA HOLDS HANOI DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT ACTION*HE SHOULD SIMILARLY INDICATE USA AWARENESS OF NORTHVIETNAMESE CONTROL OVER THE PATHET LAO MOVEMENT IN LAOS AND THE DEGREE OF NORTHVIETNA MESE INVOLVEMENT IN THAT COUNTRY.HE SHOULD SPECIFICALLY INDICATE USA AWARENESS OF NORTHVIETNAMESE VIOLATIONS OF LAOTIAN TERRITORY ALONG THE INFILTRATION ROUTE INTO SOUTH VIETNAM. g.MR SEABORN CAN AGAIN REFER TO THE MANY EXAMPLES OF USA POLICY IN TOLERANCE OF PEACEFUL COEXISTANCE WITH COMMUNIST REGIMES,SUCH AS YUGOSLAVIA,POLAND,ETC*HE CAN HINT AT THE ECONOMIC AND OTHER BENEFITS WHICH HAVE ACCRUED TO THOSE COUNTRIES BECAUSE THEIR POLICY OF COMMUNISM HAS CONFINED ITSELF TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THEIR OWN NATIONAL TERRITORIES AND HAS NOT RPT NOT SOUGHT TO EXPAND INTO OTHER AREAS* 9. MR SEABORN SHOULD CONCLUDE WITH THE FOLLOWING NEW POINTS? ATHAT THE EVENTS OF THE PAST FEW DAYS SHOULD ADD CREDIBILITY TO THE STATEMENT MADE LAST TIME,THAT QUOTE USA PUBLIC AND OFFICIAL PATIENCE WITH NORTH VIETNAMESE AGGRESSION IS GROWING EXTREMELY THIN* WNOUOTE.B.THAT USA CONGRESSIONAL RESLN WAS PASSED WITH NEAR UNA= NIMITY,STRONGLY RE“AFFIRMING TIE UNITY AND DETERMINATION OF USA' 4 GOVT AND PEOPLE NOT RPT NOT ONLY WITH RESPECT TO ANY FURTHER ATTACKS ox USA MILITARY FORCES BUT MORE BROADLY TO CONTINUE TO OPPOSE FIRMLY, BY ALL NECESSARY MEANS,DRV EFFORTS TO SUBVERT AND CONQUER •.4 000188 �Document disclosed under the Access to Information Act . Document divulgue en vertu de la Loi sur l'acces a /'information PAGE FOUR 2872 SOUTH VIETNAM AND LAOS® CeT MAT USA HAS COME TO THE VIEW THAT DRV ROLE IN SOUTH VIETNAM AND LAOS IS CRITICAL. IF DRV PERSISTS IN ITS PRESENT COURSE, IT CAN EXPECT H0-CONTINUE TO SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES. D.THAT DRV KNOWS WHAT IT MUST DO IF THE PEACE IS TO BE RESTORED. 'E.THAT USA HAS WAYS AND MEANS OF MEASURING DRVS PARTICIPATION IN,AND DIRECTION AND CONTROL OF,THE WAR ON SOUTH VIETNAM AND IN LAOS AND WILL BE CAREFULLY WATCHING DRVS RESPONSE TO WHAT MR SEABORN IS TELLING THEM. 000189 � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Indochina (CDVN) Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CDVN00030 Title A name given to the resource Appendix 11 - Washington telegram No. 2872 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 08-Aug-64 Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived RG25/R219, 2017-00506-1, Box 3, Pt. 11, "A study of Canadian Policy with respect to the Vietnam Problem," Library and Archives Canada. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource LAC ATIP EA_2023_020895 Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Canadian Crown Subject The topic of the resource Vietnam Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Canada Declassified Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource PDF Language A language of the resource en