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Cross Kidnapping: Conversation v/ith
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Noel Dagg asked to see me today. It was clearly evident
that he was suffering from an acute attack of conscience for any
trouble that he may have caused the Canadian Government by the
remarks attributed to him in the Irish newspapers as reported in
our telegram under reference, i.e. that he had information to the
effect that M. Laporte died from injuries suffered in an attempt
to escape his captors. Ue proceeded over an hour to give me a
detailed account of what had happened.
2.
He was asked on Friday, December h9 to do an interview
for Hadio Telefis Eireann as part of its coverage of the Cross
release. Much of the taped interview was concerned with Mr.
Cross's character and vdth the admiration which Dagg had for the
action by tiie Canadian Government which had secured the release
of Cross without giving in to the demands made by his captors.
Towards the end of the taping he was asked whether his admiration
for the Canadian Government's course of action did not have to be
tempered by regret that ii. Laporte had been murdered. Without
thinking, he said that it was bad luck that M. Laporte's death
had come accidentally. He v/as then "trapped" into defending
the theory of the accidental death of M. Laporte, widch had come
to him from a good friend in Canada. The taping was supposed to
be a trial run and he said after a few minutes thought he had
made a strenuous effort to get RTE to expunge the last part of
the tape. They were not prepared to do so and he was horrified
• • • later to find that it had been taken completely out of
context in the use made of it in the two Irish newspapers.

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3.
Within hours he had calls from almost all of the major
British newspapers, Life and Time magazines, etc. and at 2*30
a.m. Saturday morning from the CBC in Toronto. With all these
callers, he alleges, he made the most strenuous effort to backtrack on his story and to put it as a holdable theory and nothing
more. The call from the CBC came to him in the middle of the
night and he again attempted to downgrade the importance that
journalists had attached to v/hat he had said. The CBC Representative said if in fact it v/as the case that he had been misquoted, would he not v/ish to set the record straight. They
would call him back v/ithin ten or fifteen minutes and give him
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the opportunity, if he wished, to set the record straight on a
trans-Canada broadcast. He decided, rightly or wrongly, that this
v/as the best course of action and followed it. He was questioned
closely, both in the advance call and on the programme, on his
earlier criticisms of the Canadian Government's actions. He said
he denied vehemently that he had ever criticized the Canadian
Government and brought his questioners to admit that they v/ere
talking about the criticisms on record made by his brother Trevor
Dagg,
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He called his brother at this stage, in the middle of the
night, only to find that Trevor had, within the hour, given very
critical comment to a representative of the ^anadian press (I believe
he meant the CP service) calling from Canada. This, incidentally,
led to a violent argument between the two brothers with Noel arguing
that his brother should have had more sense than to give vent to ills
personal emotions, no matter what they x/ere, at a time v/ieen, by
reason of their connection with Mrs. Cross, they happeaed to be newsworthy. He told me, incidentally, that a few weeks ago Trevor had
written a long and highly critical letter to the London Times which,
fortunately, he had passed to his sister for comment; she had been
successful in urging that he not take such an unhelpful line and
the letter v/as never sent to the Times.
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Dagg said he hoped I could accept that he had made a mistake
out of inexperience at being the centre of press interest aind could
believe that he waspersonally full of admiration for the "guts" shown
by the Prime Minister in nis handling of the case. His "Bolshy"
brother was a different problem but it v/as a problem that he, Noel,
had had to live with most of his life. Dagg said he felt slightly,
but only slightly, relieved to read in the London Observer and the
London Sunday Times reference to evidence which had indicated that
M. Laporte did try to^^gt through a window covered v/ith x/ire mesh
and that he could havenswrangled inadvertently when his captors
attempted to pull him back. Certainly he,Dagg, had said nothing or
known nothin^, about v/ire mesh. The mitigation to his own error arose,
in his mind) from the belief that others besides himself had given
credence to the possibility of an accidental death. So far as he was
concerned personally, he still believed it accurate to say that H*
Laporte had been murdered as a result of the activities of his captors,
6.
I simply Indicated that I had brought to Ottawa's attention
the report of his views as carried in the Irish newspapers and that I
had no information whatsoever to support his theory. He went on at
lengths to tell of the various states of mind he had gone through in
the course of^ihe tv/o months and of the indications he had had from
his sister of^many changes of mind in the same period. These v/ere
interesting but add nothing of substance to the case. We left it
that I v/ould let him know v/hat coverage was given to v/hat he had said
when Canadian newspapers arrive at the Embassy. At the time of our
discussion the latest Globe &amp; Mail we had was for Thursday, Dec. 3*
i.e. prior to all that is dealt with above.
J.J. MoOARDLE
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