https://declassified.library.utoronto.ca/files/original/6789c0a17dff9359d2e10150656ff592.pdf 1c806fe67c6416839e86506e17c50cb7 PDF Text Text EXTERNAL AFFAIRS Mr.Claude Roquet Head of T&sA Force TO A AFFAIRES EXTERIEURES AAATAI FROM De J . - M . Dery REFERENCE T e l e g r a m CAM 6 9 8 o f D e c e m b e r 5 , 1 9 Conversation with Mr. J . J . Cross during f l i g h t t o London. CONFIDENTIAL Sec u rife •—• DATE December 8, 1970 • — NUMBER Numero • s</e/ECT SECURITY FILE OTTAWA MISSION DOSSIER -rnz- 22 / O ENCLOSURES Annexes DISTRIBUTION As reported in the telegram in reference, the aircraft was airborne at 09hl0 E.S.T. and reached London at 21h00 London time. Details of arrangements for departure, press conferences in Montreal and London as well as details of reception at Heathrow Airport are, I believe, already available to you. 2. The six hour flight went extremely smoothly and I believe that the decision to limit the party accompanying Mr. Cross created a favourable climate of intimacy which allowed a free flow of conversation which provided data and impressions (part of which is on tapes and will be available later this week) that should prove of particular usefulness in the diagnostical studies that will be undertaken. PDM 3. Immediately after the plane was airborne, Mr. Cross, who already was in a mood of controlled elation, visibly relaxed and exhibited an almost compulsive wish to talk, a normal reaction after weeks of confinement and very limited human contacts. k. As agreed with Mr. Jim Davey, Lord Dunrossil sounded Mr. Cross on the possibility that he might wish to convey his preliminary impressions of the ideology that motivated the FLQ members, the movement's organization, its aims and as well of the personalities of the abductors. Mr. Cross was delighted with the suggestion and insisted on engaging in the exercice immediately. The tape recorder was brought and we all sat around a table and, under delicate probing particularly •• • •/ Ext. 407A/BH. a fJJ.fb(os) 001621 �- 2 - CONFIDENTIAL by Mr. Davey, Mr. Cross gave us what he referred to as "impressions" but which in fact were evidently much more the results of analysis and selection in his own mind of various hypothesis and could be called conclusions. There were no attempts on the part of the listeners to solicit comments on the modalities of his arrest or his confinement, which had already been discussed in debriefings by the Police on the previous day as Mr. Cross himself made it clear at least at one point of the interview that he had no intention of restating for us or the tape any of the data which,- of specific interest to the law enforcement Agencies and of which they had already been apprised. 5. This first continuous conversation lasted approximately one hour (ans was taped in its entirety), at which time, Mr. Cross made it clear that he wished to slow the pace and stretch his legs. 6. This particular format of interview was not resumed but the conversation usually at the initiative of Mr. Cross returned to the subjects already mentioned with the tape recorder being activated at times and as well on several occasions shut at the request of Mr. Cross. Extracts of this chatter of a more personal nature including reminiscences and bits of factual data or recollections that surfaced on Mr. Cross' mind are also on a tape (which I have not yet heard) and will be brought back to Ottawa by Mr. Darey Thursday. Mr. Cross and Lord Dunrossil have asked for a copy of these tapes, which were to be transcribed in London on Monday December 7, and Mr. Davey agreed that copies were to be turned over to them. Constable Bennett is also to have a further conversation w ith Mr. Cross on December 9 in London. 7. I would prefer at this stage not to anticipate these tapes which will be available to us within the next 48 hours and attempt to convey from memory (and a few brief notes taken when the first of the two tapes were replayed for Mr. Cornett and myself by Mr. Davey on the evening of December 6) a summary of their content. I will however, as suggested by the Under Secretary, try to confine to paper the remarks, questions and comments that Mr. Cross did not wish to see recorded on the tape. I would prefer however, if you agree, to complete this separate report after listening to the two tapes as, I am confident that being replaced in the atmosphere of the flight, details which may now escape me will come back. J.-M. Dery � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CDTF00094 Title A name given to the resource JM Déry to Mr. Claude Roquet Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 8-Dec-70 Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Political Affairs - Internal Security - Task Force on Kidnapping - Policy, RG25, vol. 25741, 20-22-TFK-1, part 5, Library and Archives Canada (LAC). Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Department of External Affairs Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Canadian Crown Subject The topic of the resource October Crisis, TFK Description An account of the resource Conversation with Mr. J.J. 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