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Defence L i a i s o n / J . G e o r g e / b w
TOP SECRET
Ottawa, J a n u a ry 3 1 , 1950.
MEMORANDUM FOR MR*xf?EENEY
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ting of Advisory Panel on Atomic Energy 1 ^^^^&gt;
Wednesday, February 1, 11:00 a. m.
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Privy Council Chamber
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1.
As you will see from Mr. Robertson's letter or
"Q^
January 30, attached, tomorrow's meeting of the Advisory %P
Panel has been called to discuss the U.K. proposals for */&amp;
tripartite co-operation which were sent to Mr. Robertson i^t
with Mr. Wrong's letter of January 3&gt; forwarded to you with^^, QJ&amp;
Mr. George's memorandum of January 5&gt; also attached.
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2.
We have a number of minor comments to make on
the U.K. proposals, but the only one of importance from the
ri Canadian po'int of view is the wording_j?f.,,the,U«K..,B.ectlon
I dealing_with _s to rage, of bombs, in Cajiada. However, I propose
to^faTTe^ach point in turn, in the order set out in the U.K.
memorandum.

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Section A
Re 3* -

We are evidently expected to fill in
the gap in the U.K. memorandum opposite
"Canada" in paragraph 3 under the heading of "large scale production" programmes. Although our present pile at
Chalk River is a producer, it is primarily
for research; the second and larger pile
whieh we may build would be in producer
category. We might, therefore, state that
Canada has "one heavy water pile" and this
could be interpreted as referring to our
present pile until our production pile,
properly speaking, is constructed.

Re 5» -

T

he statement at the end of paragraph 5
that the next three years' will be the
critical period, might be taken to imply
more than it does, and might perhaps be
softened by saying "the next three or
four years".

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Section A - (Cont'd)
Re 10. -

The term of the agreement, for five
years from the 1 of January, 1950,
seems appropriate.

Section B
Re 6. -

We agree with this paragraph concerning Canadian raw material requirements
being provided by arrangement between
the U.S.. and Canada, as we have always
maintained that our supplies are not
subject to allocation.

Section C
We are presumably not interested
having our scientist's integrated
joint atomic weapons programme.
are, a paragraph should be added
.section.

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If we
to this

Section D
Here again the U.K. memorandum deals
with the problem of U.K./U.S. exchanges
almost exclusively. The Canadian position might be better protected if we
were to suggest that (j) of paragraph 1.
(Defensive measures against atomic
weapons) Should be taken out of paragraph 1., which refers chiefly to U.S./
U.K. exchanges, and paragraph 3» should
be rewritten as follows: "It is agreed
that there should be full co-operation
between the appropriate U.S., U.K. and
Canadian staffs in the field of intelligence of atomic energy and also as
regards defensive measures against atomic
weapons."

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- 3Section D - (Contrd)
Re k

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The U.K. proposal is more specific than
we should wish, as it says that after the
U.K. stock-pile has reachecja certain level
(which it may in about three years1 time),
"the remainder of the U.K. stock of weapons will
be stored in Canada and. held there at U.K.
disposal."
Instead, we might suggest, as
the Prime Minister said at the meeting of the
Advisory Panel on November 9, that the phrase
to be used in any tripartite agreement should
be that the remainder of the U.K. stock of
weapons will be stored "in accordance with
agreed strategic concepts", it being understood
that we could consider a specific proposal
from the U.K. and U.S* Governments when the
time comes. The Prime Minister specifically
did not want Canada designated in the agreement
as a custodian of bombs for the other two
countries.

Section E
As we shall not be taking part in the joint
weapons programme, Canada will stand to gain
more from the implementation of a tripartite
agreement to exchange information in the field
of basic research, which is covered in this
section, and Dr. Mackenzie may therefore wish
to make some of the paragraphs of this section
more precise, so that it might be clearly
understood that we are to exchange basic
research information over the whole field of
atomic energy, including industrial application,
which is at present prohibited in the McMahon
Act, so far as U.S. officiaU are concerned.
Section F
Re 3 -

We should support the U.K. proposal that
security standards. rqther than procedures,
should be identical.

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Section G
We have no comments on the U,K, proposals
for co-operation with other members of the
Commonwealth and with other friendly countries: we can happily agree with any
provisions that may be agreed between the
U.S. and U.K. in this field.
Section H
Under the heading of "General Arrangements"
the U.K. have proposed writing into the
present agreement nearly all of-the provisions
of the modus vivendi of January 1948.
It
may be desirable for us to reaffirm the stand
we have always taken on raw materials - that
our uranium is not subject to CDA allocation
but that we are free to sell it, at least in
, theory, to whatever buyer we choose.

.,,.

The proposed arrangements would be the same
as those of the modus vivendi as regards our
membership on both the CPC and the CDA.
Before January 19^8, we had not taken part
officially in meetings of the CDA, but Mr.
Bateman had attended in a personal capacity
as an expert rather than as a representative
of the Canadian Government.
Even in the
CPC we had been shown, in the official minutes
of the January 19^8 meetings, as attending
"by invitation", and it was not until the modus
vivendi was negotiated at that time that we
were taken into full partnership in both the
CPC and the CDA.
As we accepted the modus
vivendi, of which a copy is attached for
purposes of comparison, there is presumably
no reason why we should not accept the
general arrangements proposed in the U,K.
paper.

3«
There are two points of possible Canadian interest
that have been omitted from the U.K. proposals entirely. In
the Quebec agreement it was specified that the bomb, if
developed, would not be used.jE&amp;thj3ut^prlpr^^^
any one of the three^participants.
This provision was not
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included in the modus vivendi, as it was known that certain
members of the Congressional Committee, including Senator
Vandenburg, strongly objected to it.
4.
The other point that might be of sufficient importance
to Canada to include is perhaps too technical to be written into
a tripartite agreement.
We are selling all our uranium oxide
to the United States and they are at present only able to
extract a small proportion of its useful,content.
In 19^7
Dr. Mackenzie suggested at a meeting of the Advisory Panel
'that we might protect our position in the future by negotiating
with the Americans an agreement that would give us rights over
uranium sludge once we knew how to re-cycle it; otherwise we
may^fTnS^BTat a very Important raw material has been lost to
future generations of Canadians.
5.

International Control.

As General McNaughton will be unable to attend tomorrow's
meeting as he must be in Nextf York for the Security Council discussion on Kashmir, and as the Russians have walked but of the
Six-Power talks, we have a little more time than we had expected
to initiate a serious review of our policy on international
control, which I think should be done with all the resources
of knowledge at the disposal of the Government.
Perhaps the
Panel would authorize Mr. George to draft a paper for subsequent
discussion ahlTlfSmment. """" 'f'he'^aim of the"*p=ap^r would be to
determine wheth§2^here_jfas„any„wpps.slM
in any
xray, consistent with our national security, thV'provi'sTonF of
the majority plan o f the""United Nations, so as ""to "open the way
for real negotiations with the U*S..S.R, before they build up a
stock-pile of bombs of serious proportions.
Mr. George's
paper would, of course, be based upon the comments which we
have already received from New York and Washington and from
Dr. Mackenzief on Mr, Kennan's proposals,

R.A. MacKay

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