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B-281 RE:

INTRODUCTION

I.

ON THE 12/8/76,

WAS IN

TERVIEWED AT HIS RESIDENCE AT LAC BOUCHETTE, MORIN HEIGHTS, QUEBEC,

INFORMATION

2.

SOURCE stated THAT FROM THE 16 TO 31 JULY 1976, HE WENT

ON A TOUR OF THE MARITIME PROVINCES

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SOURCE ALSO ADDED THAT HE IS FINISHING WRITING HIS
BOOKS WHO WILL PROBABLY BE ENTITLED "MASS MEDIA IN THE USSR AND
THEIR INFLUENCE IN 3RD WORLD COUNTRIES".
THE MANUSCRIPT IS WRITTEN

IN RUSSIAN AND SHOULD BE COMPLETED BY SEPTEMBER 1976,

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THEN BE TRANSLATED, CORRECTED AND PUBLISHED LATER ON.
4.

SOURCE SOLD HIS HOUSE ON

THE 1/6/76 FOR THE SUM OF

$35,000.00. HE MADE A NET PROFIT OF $17,000.00, SPENT $7,000.00
ON A PICK UP TRUCK WHICH HE CONNECTED INTO A CAMPER, A VOLSWAGEN
AND A TRIP TO THE MARITIMES. HE KEPT APPROXIMATELY $10,000.00
TO CARRY HIM FOR ONE YEAR AS HE HAS BEEN ACCEPTED AT CARLETON UNI
VERSITY TO TAKE A COURSE IN JOURNALISM IN SEPTEMBER 1976. SOURC
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AFTER HIS COURSE HE WILL LOOK FOR JOB AS A POLITICAL REPORTER.

HE DOES NOT KNOW WHERE YET, BUT COMMENTED THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO WORK
IN OTTAWA AND TRAVEL TO HIS COUNTRY RESIDENCE DURING WEEK ENDS.
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FOR RECORD PURPOSES THE FOLLOWING IS A DESCRIPTION OF THE
ROUTE TO REACH SUBJECT'S CABIN IN MORIN HEIGHTS:
LAURENTIAN AUTOROUTE TO EXIT 38FOLLOW HIGHWAY 364
WEST TO MORIN HEIGHTS.
TAKE HIGHWAY 329 NORTH TO LAC BOUCHETTE
FOR 1.8 MILE AND TURN RIGHT IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE WODDEN BRIDGE.

UP ON THIS GRAVEL ROAD FOR .2 MILE, SHARP RIGHT TURN ON SMALL ROAD
FOR .3 MILE AND THE SMALL CABIN (APPROXIMATELY 10' X 10') ON THE
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THE LAKE IS SUBJECT'S CABIN.

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TIME I WILL REPORT ON HIS DEFINATE PLANS.

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THE INCIDENT MENTIONED IN PARAGRAPH 2 ABOVE WAS REPORTED ON

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to attend Carleton University this fall for a course in
Journalism. He has sold his house and can be reached

or postal address
P.O. Box 51, Station C, Montreal. The proceeds of the sale
of his house together with his savings will provide for
his living while at Carleton.
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He is sending us the English translation of a

Russian book "From Under the Rubble" which cnntains

essays by, among others, Solzhenitsyn.
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a tour of the Maritimes during the Olympics - as much

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5 July 1976
RE:

On 2 June 1976, four CBC employees (2 from Montreal
and 2 from Ottawa) met with the D.G. and myself to discuss
subject. Key participants were Mr. BROWN, Head of the CBC
International Department and Mr. SOMNER, the CBC Security
Officer.

2.

The CBC was concerned over the fact that they were

not fully aware of the background of
and had in fact
known little of his past until the article appeared in The
Gazette in March 1976. Mr. BROWN was apprized of the fact that
his predecessor in Montreal had been given a briefing on
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approximately 2 years ago and that we had seen no need
to discuss the matter with other CBC staff at that time.

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about him. A general discussion on the handling and settle

ment of defectors in Canada took place^^n response to a
direct question by Mr. SOMNER, they were told that no other
defectors were currently employed by CBC, International Depart
ment.

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national Department, the CBC expressed concerns over their
employment practices and the backgrounds of people they
employed, as most came from Eastern Europe. The D.G.
affirmed our willingness to screen any current or fUure CBC
employees and agreed to brief the CBC Security Officer should
any future defectors seek and obtain employment with CBC.
5.

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appeared satisfied with the results of the meeting.

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Anyone interested in radio knows that short wave
transmissions can be inaudible a short distance from

the transmitter and yet can be heard perfectly even
thousands of kilometers away.

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accompanied by a political phenomenon.

This consists

of a radiostation transmitting broadcasts to listeners
in far-off countries which it would never permit
listeners at home to hear for fear that the dation
would be sued for libel and slander.-

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which announces its appearance on the airwaves with
the words "Canada calling".
Who is it speaking into the microphone at the
radiostation when they broadcast in Russian and

Ukrainian?

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have the right to speak in Canada's name?

Are they

people who express the popular opinion of this
country and who represent the traditions and way of

thinking of its people?
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contents of these broadcasts with the official

declarations of Canadian government authorities and
political leaders and with pronouncements by represent
atives of the Canadian public to see that this is not so.

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speaking on the same theme, quite rightly emphasized the

desirability of non-interference in (another country* s)
internal affairs: "^Ve are not going to convince you to

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introduce capitalism, just as you do not intend to
persuade us to build socialism".

"I saw the achievements

of your people during years of peaceful construction.

All of this brings forth in Canadians a sense of deep
respect for the Soviet people who are our nearest northern

neighbours and with whom we want to live in peace and

friendship" said another Canadian leader, S. Hodgson,
commissioner of the North IVest Territories.

The same

is said by real Canadians who are trusted by their
compatriots and who are concerned with the national

interests of the country.

But what does "Radio Canada" broadcast, more
particularly, that service in charge of shortwave
transmissions in Russian and Ukrainian?

What idea of

Canadian intentions, indeed of Canadians themselves,
will a radio listener form as a result of these broad-

. casts? If we judge by these broadcasts, we might think
that the Canadian people were no longer peace-loving
and friendly neighbours of our country but acrimonious,
quarrelsome, even hostile foes.
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Broadcasting to the Soviet Union, the authors of

these broadcasts by Canadian radio display the most
touching concern for every kind of renegade, known in
the West as a "dissident"; they rejoice over isolated

critical remarks in the ^oviet press.

From beginning

to end, they attempt (original illegible -trans.) ...
propaganda which is exactly contrary to the position
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broadcasts in'the Ru^an and Ukrainian languages are like

the man who sees a mite in his neighbour's eye and fails
to notice the beam in his own.

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Canadian people live the bird of paradise - without
trouble or care. Under their pens, the serious social
and economic problems of the capitalist world - and Canada
is no exception - are transformed with surprising ease
into trifling inconveniences hardly worth talking about.
What is Boo,000 unemployed in a country vjith a population
of 23,000,000? Trivial. An unemployed Canadian receives
assistance which enables him to live like a king.

If

those deprived of the right to work and forced, in the
flower of their manhood, to become beggars could only
hear similar rationalizations of anarchical capitalist

methods of production, the authors of these broadcasts
would not only be iiowled down, they would be stoned alive.
It should be pointed out that Canadian radio
broadcasts destined for listeners in their own country,

and therefore under the gaze of Canadian society, have
little in common with t'le transmissions of the Russian

and Ukrainian sections.

Internal programming, especially

in more recent times, has been characterized by solid
information about life in the USSR, its politics and so
on while the nationality problems of the country are

examined with a great deal more seriousness and goodwill.
The problem is that the Russian and Ukrainian
sections of the Canadian radio network have become a

refuge for emigres who have very good reasons to hate
the Soviet people inasmuch as a traitor always hates
those whom he has betrayed. Here is Roman Oleynik*

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writing under the pseudonym Rakhmainyi, who directs the
Ukrainian section of the Canadian radio network.

In the

past he was an active supporter of (Stepan) Bandera and
a fascist lackey.

He fled his homeland in fear of

retribution for the crimes he committed during the war.

Here too is (FNU) Ryabov, well known to the Montreal

police as a drunk and a seducer.

Here is Shurrian, the

author of most of the commentaries and background reports

for Russian language programs. He is a traitor to his
country and abandoned his family and close friends to
seek the "sweet life" abroad.

A close-knit bunch, one

as bad as the other.

This crowd is conducting a "cold war" over the
airwaves of Canadian radio, indifferent to international

agreements...( illegible)... the barest requirements of
the ethics of journalism. These traitors and slanderers
in the Russian and Ukrainian sections of Canadian radio

conduct their idiocy in concert, organized by centres of
international ideological subversion, centres to whom
the new breezes in linternational life are clearly unpleasant.
It must be said that in conversations with Soviet

journalists representatives of the Canadian radio netvwrk
have frequently complained of the dominance of defectors
and emigres in the Russian and Ukrainian sections. They
recognize that such a crowd has not the slightest right
to speak over the air in Canada's name. Unfortunately,
they added, there were formal and political circumstances

which prevent the purging of these slanderers from
Canadian radio studios.

It is not for us to judge whether or not this is
so.

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MEMBERS OF DEFECTORS COMMITTEE

Soviet Defector - Thomas SCHUMAN

Subsequent to the meeting of the Defectors Com
mittee in April to consider developments in the SCHUMAN
case in the light of an article appearing in the Vancouver
Sun, there was an exchange of correspondence between the
Under-Secretary and Mr. Fortier, the Under-Secretary of State.
Copies of these letters are attached.

You will note from Mr. Fortier's letter of

May 5 that, in this case, the Secretary of State decided
against taking any action under procedures in the Canadian
Citizenship Act for the revocation of citizenship. Insofar

as the Schuman case is concerned, the Registrar of Citizenship
indicated in my meeting with him that his Department should
have no difficulty responding to questions from Robert Bull,
the author of the Vancouver Sun story, and believed the

matter could be put to rest.

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arise in the House or from the media, the Secretary of State,

as you will note from Mr. Fortier's letter, will draw from
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It has come to ny attention that the oase of
Thomas Schuman, who defected from the USSR in 1969, and

who I understand recently obtained Canadlaui citisenship,

■ay be publicized on the grounds that he fraudulently

completed his application for Citizenship by indicating on
the application form that he had not changed his name, in

fact, his name was changed as part of an arrangement prior
to his entry to Canada in 1970, to provide hia with cover,

in order that he could stake a new life in Canada and be

hidden against possible reprisals from the Soviet Onion.
A set of exceptional procedures for assisting
CoBBBonist bloc defectors were devised during the cold war,
with a view to

, who it is believed, have reason to fear for

their personal safety if the Communist government concerned
should learn of their whereabouts. An Interdepartjsental
Cosmtittee on Defectors was established to exasilne each case

with a view to determining its merits, based essentially on

humanitarian considerations, but also on the contribution

the individual has made or could suike to western knowledge

of the country concerned. The Committee is composed of this
Department, the Department of Manpower and Iimaigration and
the RCMP.

If a case is approved, and our records indicate

that since the arrangement was agreed to
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locate them in Canada with the assistance of the ROMP.
The Schuiuan case reveals a serious lacuna

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existing procedures insofar as the possible eventual
interest of a defector in obtaining Canadian citizenship
had not been taken into account.

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if you agree, that officers of our Department consult
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reviewing the existing defector procedures to ensure that
provision is made to include the Department of the Secretary
of State in future consultations on defector cases.

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Intelligence and Security Liaison Division in this Department,
discussed the Schuman case in general terras with Mr. Nichols,

the Registrar of Citizenship. I would suggest that Mr. Nichols
or whoever you may wisn to designate, contact Mr. Seymour

urgently with a view to reaching agreement as soon as possible
on handling the citizenship aspect of defectors cases, in
particular Mr. Scliuman's case.
In view of the sensitivity of this subject, I

would be grateful if you would treat it on a "need to know"
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Dear Mr, Robinson:

Thank you for your letter of April 12th regard
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but we have given the matter a good deal of thought in
the interim.

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indeed visit the Registrar
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future committee deciding cases similar to Schuman's.

Although the Canadian Citizenship Act establishes
a procedure for revocation of citizenship in cases of false

representation or fraud or concealing material circumstances,
there is no actual obligation upon the Minister to institute
the procedure. It is therefore his decision that he will
not do so in the Schuman case, the Canadian Government

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Solicitor General) having agreed to the name change.

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Committee, after careful consideration, we' decline.

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not likely to recur and that therefore there is no need
for the Department to know about the others. Should the
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citizenship area, of course the Registrar will be pleased
to comply.

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granted lan.io:! IriindgranL status. His change of name was accepted
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Tomas David SCHUMAN

NAME:

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DATE OF BIRTH:

December 11, 1939 Moscow, U.S.S.R.

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MARITAL STATUS:

Married September 1963

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DATE OF BIRTH:

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CHILDREN:
PREVIOUS MARRIAGE:

Jul 1965 - Divorce

OCCUPATION:

Journalist

DEFECTED:

Early 1970 to Americans in New Delhi, India

INTELLIGENCE

KGB co-optee

FUNCTION:
ARRIVED IN

CANADA:

July 16, 1970 Toronto

RECEIVED CANADIAN
CITIZENSHIP:

Oct 17f 1975» Montreal, Quebec

BEZENOV defected to the Americans in New

Delhi, India where he was employed as editor of press
relations for the SoYiet Information Department.
Having expressed the desire to resettle in
Canada and fearing for his safety BEZENOV changed
his name to SCHUMAN and with approval of the Inter~
departmental Committee on Defectors entered Canada at

Toronto on Jul 16, 1970. SRB were responsible after
his arrival with Security Service acting as a "back
stop" locally in Toronto and Montreal, the two centres
SCHUMAN has resided since his arrival in Canada.

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in the Eastern Asian Studies Department, University of
Toronto; a farm hand ( 1-2 months); and an employee of
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of interest to the Soviets, such as agriculture.
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From the initial stages SCHUMAN caused problems
from a supervisory standpoint. SCHUMAN was continually
bringing undue attention to himself by his overly
inquisive and outspoken attitude as well as expressing
a very anti Soviet view through his position with CBC
Radio Canada International and by publishing anti Soviet
articles. SCHUMAN finally admitted to a newsreporter
his time identity, including the manner of his escape

from India and subsequent resettlement in Canada,this taking
^lace in March/Anril 1976.

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position at CBC International as of 27/5/76. Source stated that he felt
there was too much Soviet pressure and the CBC Officials did not want
him to express his anti communist views over the air. He added that he
came across the ocean because he believed in freedom and because he is

living in a so called free country he wants to express himself as he sees
fit,on the other hand, he understands the position tahen by the CBC
officials as they do not want to create any frictions between Canada and
the Soviet Union.

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general interest to the Soviets such as agriculture. Immigration, etc.
He will sell his 10 minute tapes #70*00 to the CBC who have assured him

to pruchase a minimum of two (2) tapes a week. He strongly feels that
CBC wanted to get rid of him as they did not agree with his political views

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andhhe is offering it fljrr sale for #55,000.00. He still has a #17,000.00
mortgage on it. However, he will keep his cuuntry place in Morin Heights

which is all paid for. As he eventually wants to work as a journalist
for a large _newspaper, he will improve his Eagli:^! by taking a co-urse at
Carleton University in the fall. To help pay for his expenses he wants to
get a part time job in the Slavic studies section at Carleton. Subject
insisted on the fact that he would'rather get a job from a major news
paper (anyidaere in" Canada) rather than get a job in the Federal Civil
Service or a iJrown Corporation where his freedom of expression will be more
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addressed to Thomas SHUMAIT, C.B.C. Russian Dept., Montreal. This letter
is appended hereto as attachment no. 1. Approximately one or two weeks
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ative to the above and it was resolved that the Secretary

of state would be apprised of the existance of the Coaaittee and Its involveaent with subject. It was also pro

posed thst the Secretszy of State issue s stateaent that
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landed status. Further, the Canadian Ooyemaent aec^ted

his Change of n»ie of% huaenitsrisn grounds end that it
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Schuman said he had 2dLready pauchased these items

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the duty at the So^et Consulate in Montreal. He asked vdiether
he could visit the Consulate.

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he personally visit the oensulate. If inSeed-suGh a wsit was
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to carry out any visit to the Gonsulatje. I furtlW suggested
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visit — prior-to it being made. Schuman agreed he would do so.
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RECENTLY REPORTED TO SUPT. H. ROBICHAUD THAT THE APRIL 5TH EDITION OF THE VANCOUVER SUN PUBLISHED
AN EXTENSIVE INTERVIEW WITH FILE SUBJECT.

2.
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time he is to submit at least two articles per week, at $70.00 per article.
He plans to travel across Canada, writing "travelogue articles, talking to
the local press and -radio stations in small towns to see what problems
they have, and perhajps to interview local people. This is what the CBC
wants and so do I." He will write under the name of Schuman.

6.
He has sold (or is selling) his house in Montreal and will live
in his cottage in the Laurentians, or "maybe with my friend"
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A Defector Committee meeting was held at 4:00;
P.M, on 12 April concerning subject. The following were in
a11enda nee:
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George SEYMOUR - External Affairs
John VENNER

- External Affairs

Dalt COLLINS
Bob McGIBBON

- Manpower &amp; Immigration
- Special Research Bureau

Bob DUFF

- RCMP

2.

Discussion centered around the attached article

3.

External Affairs were concerned that questions

from the Vancouver Sun dated April 1976, written by Rob BULL,

would be raised in the House of Commons and that unless the

Defector Committee was prepared to be very frank that the
issue of a Government cover-up could also be a factor. One
of the key points was that SCHUMAN had stated in his Appli
cation for Canadian Citizenship that he had not changed his
name nor had he ever been known by another name. After
lengthy discussions it was resolved that Mr. SEYMOUR would
advise the Secretary of State of the existance of the
Defector Committee and its involvement with SCHUMAN.

He would

then propose a letter of response to BULL from the Secretary
of State. The thrust of a response would be along the
following lines:

The Government was fully aware of the background of the
SCHUMAN case. Mr. SCHUMAN met all immigration
requirements and was granted landed status.

The

Canadian Government accepted his change of name
on humanitarian grounds.

It would not be in the

best interests of Mr. SCHUMAN or the Canadian
Government to comment further.

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answering any questions that were raised in the House of Commons.

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SCHUMAN has been handled by Bob McGIBBON of SRB

and he will be in contact in order to once again lay down the
law concerning statements to the press.

SCHUMAN has left

CBC and he is almost rabid in his dislike for the CBC Inter

national Department and some employees in it.
6.

There was concern over what statements SCHUMAN may make

about his departure from India

7.

Mr. SEYMOUR raised grave concern as to

This is probably a question to

be asked by the Secretary of State and we will supply the
answer for External Affairs.

8.

Mr, SEYMOUR also took the opportunity to suggest that

the terms of reference for the Defector Committee should be

examined. Although he was successfully discouraged on this
occasion, I am sure the subject will be raised once again.

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an article in

The Gazette concerning the CBC International Departmefat.
(Gazette article dated 23 March 1976.)

2.
of
Immigration,
Secretary of

Secretary of State in order to trace down details
story have been in contact with Department of
SRB and External Affairs. The main concern of the
State is to how
obtained his citizenship

and the fact

that

had admitted that
What other details &lt;
is unknown.

has revealed to

3.
An article appeared in the Winnipeg Free Press
dated 3 April 1976 concerning the CBC and the Soviets titled
"Mother Russia Rocks Boat on Airways". A copy of this article
is being obtained through "D" Division. External Affairs are

taking the following action.l)Bob McGIBBON of SRB will be getting

in touch with
to ascertain exactly what statements he
made to BOW. He is going to impress upon
that it is
in his best interest to say nothing further. If he does he will
not only jeopardize the Defector Committee but also
&lt;

(2) Mr.

SEYMOUR is going to re-contact The Registrar of the Secretary
of State advising him that the Canadian Government's stance is

basically a no|l-comm,BhfHp

they can positively attest that

did not "enter Canada under false pretenses". If
necessary SEYMOUR is prepared to elaborate on the fact that
applied through the normal Immigration procedure and it
was not in the public interest to make further comment;

(3) SEYMOUR is going to contact

advise him of the circumstances and what act ion , is.^beri-i

ned,

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Stall uorrespondeni:

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"Jf-wc judge: by these transirii'ssions,''

assume, ina
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Known tnat lhe Union of Soviet Socialist .,ihc artitle. Sia'ys, "one
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operation
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part
Service
based ur Place Radio-Canada where pfo- ^i^tervlowirig&gt;people like {novelist)' Sol-

ass
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Europe^

rai^apresent,
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spectrum
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Canadian .yiewpomts
and
key word

Snda?'^^'"

" languages for 3'zynitzeri and other S.oviet emigrek.'' '
..--Other bbservers remarked that

America, Africa and

yt];;S.S;'Ii3authorities were possibly upset-

143y.r.eports of demonstrations outside the.

. ..
.. . , .,'iSovi^|e)hba's^^^^^
; The programs, are supposed td reflect'' '-''t--99.jnj9thorcities/^ it's.Veryrdiffiility of Canadian
life
thteml'' i,
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quality
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'hho-nkciir'v'ar-coi/i'
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culture,.Canada's
-interests'f

and policies, and th^ spegtnmfjfipiCana- ■ ^ -^-Qne'tepic the newspaper feels Is being
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;i misrepresented by the CBC is the'Cana-

wenfin for propa-

here is spectrum. Canadians by and^

"9' hysterical about Russia i

•:'«bough
there may be an TxtSiV
number who are rather enthjslas- ,
an

a moderate, typical Canadi- :

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- ^ "dayanih
, over-all
balance on the air eVery
everv
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®9dingsections
that'theOfmain
fTeltherEn^sh or i -9rticle|saysi "the serious economic and role
of^all^'J?
11Service,
language
the
sgciaK^oblems
of
the
capitalist;world
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lOternational
.was
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Inform the
slated .by'the" other '
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from the ■ ^i9n.9Conomy.-^
^
■.. ^prepared in a ; "Acgo^ng--to CBC producers," the
; ease'in.to sn^ffll shortcomings hardly

' Besides-news, these also Include fea- '

tere materials, reviews''of the,Canadian
^ress
and items.of speciaj Jptersst on

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must
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be a long-term
one andany
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effbrts.can
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principles
are
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that
860,p00t^uneriiployed
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of the domestic CBC; we don't cen,sor the
to cause-an international stir. %
| ^.js'ja.jiiefeltrifle. The^unemp^
Cana-' news.
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fniir'iv
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Cnvi!!! ,f''®9st
.daily newspaper
Mh the I f^eflteon
.which they''say
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7®"^'y ^9-priyhem ,lri;oui; fratee of mind.
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V\ gically subversive cenfres."

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tM programs of a particular section. We
.'tejf them they were recorded,'and then
the production staff' involved meet to'

"lal^ their own evaluation while a manaf^ent committee meets separately to

d(j ^he.same. Then, both groups,meet

together to discuss their impressions."

: Translation trouble.

He said that there was a special prob

lem in eyaluating;the work of the Slavic :

language sections' including the eight

Russian-languageA speakers' arid seven

Ukrainian-language; spe^ers."because

.we have to go outside for a translation" .

. ..for the use of the inantlgement commit-

Ojher CBC employees 'say:the',tiianslaIor for management-.isy,picked'(by the

head of Soviet section. ';Because of buif-

get limitations,"Vuse of ah out'sid'eHrans' latpr is limited and the section has been

r evaluated no more than.twice iri'the past
year.^A^ny observers feel" this is inade■"gaate:^'(
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general observation; a substantial ,pro

portion of,people ln!botlPthe'Soviet and
Ukrainian sections do'.pot come from •

Canada.

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., This limits the&gt;ectiOnj|(Ovet-all ability
I to,understand .Canada,,,perhaps,(but

management feels 'it Is^^impossible to
draw on the large bodyJof Canadian

•" Ukrainian and Russian-language speak-

AiCrs because .of their accent. Some observers disagree, given thfrprimary role
. of the senyice to reflect Canada.. -

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. have nevys^experience outside of the
! , 'iiiternational service. - ,
. 'B,uttMr;'Brown thinks it will be neces-

• saryr'to dependf on recent atrivals from

the-Soyiet^Unlpn fQr.some time to come, '

and to, train therai "both for'radio, and
; almut.Canada.

The Trud article complained'specifically about threjBCBCemployees.'Roman
, Olynlk, chief of the. Ukrainian section,
and

Ryabov. and Thomas Schuman

of .the Soviet section. Mr. Schuman gave
his resignaUon to the CBC severar'weeks

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Schuman said he was "mad as hell" at the CBC for the type of freelance

contract he had begn^^ven - having resigned as a staff member, and had talked
to a friend Roberir,^ew about the iniquities of the CBC. Schuman claimed

that the reason for the contract (which he said offered him $70.00 instead

of the normal $300.00 per article) was that CBC were trying to get rid of him because of the "stuff the Soviet Union said".

He had talked to BAiirZ-about the

CBC as compared with the "Soviet propaganda organs", and told B^ti^about "the
idealistic pro-Soviet t&gt;qDes in the CBC International Service".

BoWhad published an article in the Winnipeg Free Press of

3 April 76 and has since written a more detailed version of Schuman's discussions.

There was never any question of obtaining his citizenship on false

pretenses as alleged by 'B^r- Indeed, Schuman could not understand what this

really referred to - or why, so I dropped it.

Because of his whole attitude, I felt I should not tackle Schuman

any further concerning his references to "his fictional" story of his dealings

R\L. McGibbon
OTTAWA

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April 9, 1976.

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rublicaUon

easy to put them in our frame of mind^
They need competent supervision and
evaluation of what they have done. We
do not depend on Soviet newspapers for

Mother Russia

this."

Evaluation of programming in the In
ternational Service, given the 11 lan

guages involved, Is no easy matter. .

rocks the boat

"We pick a day when we will listen to
the programs of a particular section. We

tell them they were recorded, and then
the production staff involved meet to

make their own evaluation while a man

agement committee meets separately to

on

the

do the same. Then; both groups meet
together to discuss their impressions."

airwaves

Translation trouble
He said that there w'as a special prob- ;
lein in evaluating the work of the Slavic j
language sections including the eight.

By ROB BULL

Staff Correspondent
MONTREAL — It is not generally

known that the Union of Soviet Socialist

Republics beams 2,000 program hours a

week to Canada on shortwave transmis
sions of 8,000 watts.

Most Canadians also probably do not

realize that the CBC broadcasts to the
U.S.S.R. 150 hours a week from a Euro

ease into small shortcomings hardly

tee.

.

•

Other CBC employees say (he transla
tor for management is picked by the

■

head of Soviet section. "Because of bud

get limitations," use of an outside trans

lator is limited and the section has been
evaluated no more than twice in the past

based in Place Radio-Canada where pro

."They say that 800,000 unemployed in '
a country with a population of 23 million. ers who decide what to use in their press .
is, a mere trifle. The unemployed Cana-,
reviews or what features will be broad- i
dian, they say, gets unemployment ben

Europe.

The spectrum

-

The programs are supposed to reflect
the realities and quality of Canadian life

and culture, Canada's national interests

Mere trifle

year. Many observers feel this is inade

,1

quate.
- ••
A certain amount of programming.is
left to the initiative of individual produc

cast. •

efits on which they say he can live very

As Mr. Brown remarked in a more ,

comfortably."

general observation, a substantial pro- j
portion of people in both the Soviet and ^

The newspaper says there is a dif

ference between CBC domestic and in

Ukrainian sections do not come from

ternational programming, and "if such

and policies, and the spectrum of Cana-,

statements were heard by those people

Canada.

Much of the material comes from the

productively to the best of their strength
by capitalist anarchy, they would not
only jeer at these CBC producers but

to understand Canada, perhaps, but j
management feels it is impossible to

dian viewpoints, f

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This limits the section's over-all ability j

who are deprived of their right to work

rest of the CBC. News is prepared in a
common newsroom in either English or
French and is translated by the other

even heave rocks at them."

grams.

mation counsellor for the Soviet em-i

draw on the large body of Canadian
Ukrainian and Russian-language speak
ers because of their accent. Some ob
servers disagree, given the primary role |

national to such propaganda stations as
Radio Liberty or Radio Free Europe,

Similarly, few people in these sections
have news e.vperience outside of the

nine language sections for their own pro

Besides news, these also include fea
ture materials, reviews of the Canadian

press and items of special interest on .

such subjects as stamp collecting.
It hardly sounds like the kind oHhing

to cause an international stir.

But a recent issue of Trud (Labor), the
fourth largest daily newspaper in the
Soviet Union, devoted a highly critical
article to (he CBC's Ukrainian and Rus
sian language sections.

Headlined, Lies on Shortwave," the
story accused the CBC of interfering in i
Soviet domestic affairs, of,not reflecting
the reality of Canadian life and of bar-

boring people of bad character who use
the CBC to assist "inlGrnational ideolo

gically subversive centres."

"If we judge by these transmissions,"

the article says, "one could assume that

the people of Canada are neither peace

In an interview, Victor Mikaev, infor-j

^

U.S.S.R. auihoniies were possibly up.-.-, i

by reports of demonstralions outside the
Soviet embassy in Ottawa and con.siil-

ates ill o'her cities; "But it's very ditficiil!. (0 gel .scything specific from tb- ,r

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and to train them both for radio and'

Mr. Brown, on the other hand, said, "I -

don't think we ever went in for propa
ganda."

about Canada.

The Trud article complained specific

ally about three CBC employees, Roman

■ Olynik, chief of the Ukrainian section,

"We try to'present a spectrum of and Yuri Ryabov and Thomas Schuman
Canadian viewpoints and the key word of the Soviet section. Mr. Schuman gave
here is spectrum. Canadians by and his resignation to the CBC several weeks
the article appeared and Mr.
large are not hysterical about Russia before
although there may be an e.xtremely Rayabov has not worked for the corporasmall number who'are rather enthusias lion since the beginning of the year.
tic.

"We take a moderate, typical Canadi

an position. We try to get an over-all

Allan Brown, director of the corpora-

zynilzen and other Soviet emigres."
Other observers remarked (h^t

sary to depend on recent arrivals from
the Soviet Union for some time to come,'

more unfriendly tone toward Russia

International .Service was to inform the
rest of the world about Canada.
"If we are to have any effect, It must

interview, "I presume they object to us
interviewing people like (novelist) Sol-

But Mr. Brown thinks it will, be neces

. "My friends in the U.S.S.R. have men
tioned that Canadian radio has even a
than Radio Liberty."

i

international service.

and calls it one of the worst. .

program," he said, adding that the main

lion's international service said in an •

of the service to reflect Canada.

bassy in Ottawa, compared CBC Inter-j

ful nor wish to be good neighbors with
our country but arc our nervous, whining

and even aggressive enemies."
— Applied to the CBC that sounds a trifle
strong.

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"According to CBC producers," the
article says, "the serious economic and
social problems of the capitalist world
including Canada turn with surprising

for the use of the management commit-'

worth mentioning.

grams are prepared in 11 languages for
North and South America, Aifrica and

14

dian economy.

pean-based transhiitter of 2,500 watts.
The Canadian end of the operation is

part of the CBC's International Service

.3

One topic the newspaper feels is being
misrepresented by the CBC is the Cana

Russian-language speakers and seven
Ukrainian-language speakers "because
we have to go outside for a translation"

balance on the air every day in every

role of ail 11 language sections of the

be a long-term one and our efforts can be
destroyed by any campaign for or
against anything.

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"Our principles are the same as those

of the domestic CBC. Wc don't censor the
news. It comes from regular CBC broad

casts . . . and we're not in the business

of laking cheap shots at anybody.

"Our foreign language sections have
to do their job with people who, in many
cases, do not conic from Canada. Ii is not

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aHtandanl of living but they veie cogs in wanted too much money or didn't trust

ROB 6ULL'
S|)ectal to The Sun

a machine. In India, the iiooie^t of the
Ifortable
MONTREAL
Yuri
Besmenov
i
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com^ whichWe. siioiild
poor, was still a person.
have
with the name Thomas Schuman. been giving them aid whidi
could help
licip

me.

'So finally Ibarged in on a U.S. Peace

representative. He reacted just like
For the five years lie has been in Cana- them feed themselves,
themselves, not
not. encouraging
encouragi g ^
bureaucrat would. He didn't want
Uci,
da, he
»«: has
uao been 1.....6
living with the identity
— - of ijigir cconomic
economic indeiwiidance h""
from the '.y
jg have
j""g"^anything to do with me. 1 conlacta Russian immigrant whose fatlier
faUier supposmaking them more dependent
official of the U.S.
They
denendent on
— embassy.
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was ,
a German m^mher
member of
of Ihe
the CominComin- . .. . industry,
tern, the Communist International

told me to come back in a few

try again. Finally I contacted

tily

so I really believed it, even U the name

in Bombay who look me to a pri
vate home and smuggled me out of India

j ^ to°take advantage ^

has drawn me a few anti-semibc comwouia ir&gt; lo
ments"
situation.

four or five days later.

But lliree weeks ago the Rus.sians con- it* was India, then, which made him "Ttie Americans were very helpful phsyfirmed in an arUcle in Trud, the fourtli- question bis.feelings about Russia fur the cliologically in calming me down. I
couldn't bargain, with them. I didn't know
largest daily in the Soviet Union, that Uicy ^gorj^or LS
secrets. I was very paranoid, very
knew who he was
bighir nervous, oonsclonoe.
very worried
about prostituting
"I started wondering if I should come
. ins. didn't wan. t.
clean," he said, "and change my name
back from Schuman to Bezmcnov in the
Within a month o£ leaving the embassy
courts. Then I decided not to because linn in ^ -rft^'hriglnvnKia. He (lid snualbc
Schuman is niy Canadian name."
compound, a time spent in hiding but
Tnrp. Russia iiTvadH the counti^
Yuii is a defector.
,
"Czechoslovakia was the last straw, he sometimes with Indian families in villages
or beside a road, the Americans smuggled
He did not flee with military secrets, he

T^act if the Swiet Union took strongly- communicate.

said. "It showed the difference between
isn't a glamorous ballet star or a member the ideals of the society in which I grew him out of India to Greece,

of a persecuted racial or religious minori- up and what wc lived every day. It .seem- j^g jpgnt another two months with the
■
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eu lu
iiic that the real danger
r-ed
to me
was the Americans .....
in a private
house in Greece,

ty.

He was a staff member of the Soviet growth in Russia of ajmical and cruel j^g

embassy in India who decided he was fed bureaucratic power with no respect for

uu with being part of the Soviet system, human values."

MTrud ,.,d. h. abandoned bis w.te and Wbon ha .as ...nt back in Wia bo

• family as part of the deci-sion.

adding that "the Americans were

good to mo, even when they under-

stood I had not that much information to

started sour.ding out his wife, a teautif 1. there.

, was vn^r tt^ntlnl tboy wes.

1 • 1 dej strong-minded
person.
S-ic.
dm
day he
was thinking
about
He
also.. worked
forL,.Novosty. which
u,^erstandadaptable
his feelings
about
lndia._
^^^jd
like to out
live.loudCanada
r.
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"—
-wnere ne wouiu ukc m uvc.
scribes itself as a public news service but
having been an Intouiisl guide and g^g^^g^j g jjgttgj. pjacg than most. It
he says It is just arwfher extension of So- jjgving met many westerners, "she was ,^ddle-of-the-road country.tJiat was not a
Viet bureaucracy whose major lole is not
ijgj,iistic about Western democracies
^
q of the Americans sug-

was a

dispcnsing , information but conduc ing

j

public relations for the Soviet state and at-

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tempting to buy off newsmen with gifts "In the Soviet Systen^ he '
ranging from free booze, to free trips to is a close relationsh^ ];l!fhnsha id L'd

gested he could go to Canada.
It was in Germany that Yuri became

Thomas, losing two years from his 36 and

and reality.I could be a good husba id and getting an entirely new set of documents.
"We'were takinc advantage of India's family
as long as
good at
^ig Canadian
Canadian visa,
he
job at man
the. embassy.
If I
youwas
stumble
on my
the
the feeling the
offiaals

Russia to money
Po^^r ^

.

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1 1 jobi the whole thing foils oport.

"I fell in love with that poor, imserable

but marvellous country which is India and

felt that it should not become the kind of

knew who he wss.

expressing my iverson- A private charity and the U.S. gave him'

^ frustration about what I was doing. In a little money and he airived m Toronto in

t},e Soviet system you don't just quit your July, 1970, with $1,000.

v

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Inflexible and centralized kind of Asiatic .
gpother. Ihad a fe ding it "u was a beautiful summer day.Itook,a
Russia into which we were trying to turn
fi„,g fg^ me to leave, I was getting taxi into the city and the driver dropped
IL"
too settliid in the system and within anotii- me off at the Ford HotePwhich be said
It was his second posting to India in er two years, if I stayed there was a good
1969-70. He had worked with a Soviet aid. chance that I would become just another
mission to India between 1963 and 1965 and Soviet tichnocrat.
spoke Urdu, Hindi, and English.
"Leaving with my wife and baby would
"We of the U.S.S.R. through our aid pro have been extremely difficult. It would

was cheap. It was. The next dayI went to

the Manpower offices. A lady there sug- •

gestedIcheck out the Toronto newspapers

and three days later 1 was working .as a.
•
grams bad been giving India one white have been practically impossible for us all Eor the next t^o years he stu^^ a
Uniyersity of ^ "Toronto, taught Russian,
elephant after another. I felt we should to get out."
■have been bclpirig them try-to reach self- [ .So one. day in February, 1970, ht disap- worked on a farm, became a welder,
drove a delivery truck and had)i ^rt but
. sufficiency in agriculti^e before getting jj^ared from the Soyiepembassy.
involved in?such heavy industrial projects j v,j
asrefineries.

' •

proofreader at the Glotie ara Mail.

disastrous career a$ a door-to^bpr sales:

tq stnjr away.'

. said;.
= i ur'
, .to ttay in man of pots and paMs ■ ;
powers, ..i!; be
"I wanted

or. anyl bdy eise/jljwas iso-jdealisticiily so
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lations Ijetween Canada and

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Otto Jelinek said yesterday that at least two Soviet dip

lomats now in Canada have been expelled from other

countries despite External Affairs minister Allan MacEa-

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Jelinek (Toronto High Park-Humber Valley) said

that Maj. Vladimir Vasiliev, assistant air attache at the
embassy here, was expelled from Lebanon in 1969 for
trying to steal Mirage jets. Vladimir Veber, second sec

retary for consular affairs, had been exiwlied from the
United Kingdom, he said.

He tried to. have an emergency Commons debate
held on a motion to have the Mouse Instruct MacEachen

to tell the Soviet Embassy to have "KGB agents posing

as part of their diplomatic staff" recalled at once. The
motion was refused consent.

"At least half of the so-called diplomats accredited

to the Soviet Emba-ssy in Otta-wa are agents of the •
KGB, some of whom are known to have taken part in il
legal and clandestine operations," Jelinek said, mention

ing Maj. Vasiliev.

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Later, in respon.''e to a question by Jelinek, Solici
tor-General Warren Allrnand said the RCMP is "well
aware that certain members (of the embassy) are with
the KGB and have been aware of this for some time."

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SPEAK .BUI WHAT IS TONE OF QUOTE HERE SPEAKS CDA UNQUOTE RUSSIAN

AND IKRAINIAN SHORTWAVE SERVICETWHAT IMPRESSION OF CDN INTENTIONS
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3. (DOES NO/NO CREDIT TO CDN RADIO THAT RENEGADES AND BETRAYERS OF
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4.ODNTRARY TO WHAT SPEAKER JEROME AND MANY OTHER CDN PtBLIC FIGURES
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7. SIMILAR COMMENTARY HAS APPEARED PERIODICALLY IN SOVIET PRESS

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ihai^ frcM the Covi^ation* He has nOt yet set a defldlte date for
resigning# He hss offered to do freelance work and apparently this has
been accepted by CBG* He hopes to "sit back*? fof

nohths - "probably

writing and things" bef&lt;^e he looks about for pefmanent work* He feels

he disagrees with 6B6 policy and meoiagement aitid iSf therefore» an irritant
to thera* HO also feels that "the CBC is a frostfatiOn" to himf and so

it would be best if they parted company* Ik^ess 6BC ch^ed its attitude
he "would re^se to cooperate with them"* As a freelanbe# he will feel
free to Criticize 6B6 and told them so* He did not wish to be a staff
member - and indeed told the 666 so when he was made One originally*

Schuman is not yet married » and will not do so unless "there
are more pressures"* He idll probably have tO sell his house*
He feels he will cut down his heavy drin|ing once he is away
from the CBC*

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WRITTEN CONSENT OF THE COMMISSIONER OF THE ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE.

IL EST INTERDIT DE PUBLIER EN TOUT OU EN PARTIE CE RAPPORT OU TOUTE DOCUMENTATION PHOTOCRAPHIQUE OU AUTRE S Y RAPPORTANT SANS LE CONSENTEMENT PAR ECRIT DU COMMISSAIRE DE LA GENDARMERIE ROYALE DU CANADA.
DATE

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place - UIEU

ENC LOSURES - PIECES,J0INTE3

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LABORATORY REPORT NO.

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RAPPORT OU LABORATOIRe NO
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C.N. 45

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Attn: Sat. V. Watrich
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COPIES TO - COPIES X

None elsewhere.
GENERAL;

The following exhibits were received at this Laboratory

by mail on 20 OCT 75 from the D.D.G. (Ops), Security
Service, "HQ" Division, Ottawa, Ontario:

Q-l(l&amp;2):

One (1) photostatic copy of a handwritten
letter, and an air mail envelope addressed
to "Canada, Montreal Canadian Broadcast

Corp Attention of Mr Thomas Shuman
Russian Department".
f.

Q-2(l&amp;2):

One (1) photostatic copy of a handwritten
letter, and an air mail envelope
addressed to "Russian Dept Canadian

Broadcasting Company Montreal, Canada.
FOR Mr. Thomas Shuman".
PURPOSE;

To compare the questioned handwritten material on
exhibits Q-l(l&amp;2) with questioned handwriting on exhibits
Q-2 {lSt2).

DATA;

Examination and comparison of the questioned handwriting
on exhibits Q-1 (1&amp;2) with questioned handwritten
material on exhibits Q—2(1&amp;2) has been hampered to a

large iextent due to the nature of exhibits submitted for
examination.

The photostatic reproductions fail to

disclose the mere minute and significant features

which a definite opinion relative to .author^h;"
based. Insofar as the foregoing c6ndl;Li©»"
permitted comparison such comparison

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b) a number of persistent differences between the

questioned handwritten addresses on the envelopes,
exhibits Q-l(2) and Q-2(2.).
CONCLUSION;

On the basis of the exhibits presently on hand, the
evidence found indicates that the questioned handwritten

letters, exhibits Q-l(l) and Q-2(1), were executed by
one author, and the questioned handwritten addresses,
on exhibits Q-l(2) and Q-2(2), were written by a second
author.
REMARKS:

1) Copies 1 and 2 of this report together with all exhibits
submitted for examination are being forwarded, copy 3
on file at this Laboratory; no copies elsewhere.

Submitted by:

P.S.G., Supt.,
Officer i/c Ottawa Laboratory.

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laboratory report no.

Ottawa
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RAPPORT OU LASORATOIRC nO
CLASSIFICATION

'Special Services Section
for-omtihataibe xxie LI.U.L3.
Ottawa, Ont.

C.N. 45

Lops;, tiecuriry service, "HQ" Div., R.C.M. Police,

Attn: ^t. V. Watrich
REFERENCE -neFlRCNCe

The following exhibits were received at this Laboratory
by mail on 20 OCT 75 from the D.D.G. (Ops), Security

GENERAL:

Service, "HQ" Division, Ottawa, Ontario:

Q-l(l&amp;2):

One (1) photostatic copy of a handwritten
letter, and an air mail envelope addressed
to "Canada, Montreal Canadian Broadcast
Corp Attention of Mr Thomas Shuman

Russian Department".

Q-2(l&amp;2):

One (1) photostatic copy of a handwritten
letter, and an air mail envelope
addressed to "Russian Dept Canadian
Broadcasting Company Montreal, Canada.
FOR Mr. Thomas Shuman".

To compare the questioned handwritten material on

PURPOSE;

exhibits Q-l(l&amp;2) with quest'ioned handwriting on exhibits
Q-2 (1&amp;2).

Examination and comparison of the questioned handwriting

DATA:

on exhibits Q-1 (1&amp;2) with questioned handwritten
material on exhibits Q-2(1&amp;2) has been hampered to a
large extent due to the nature of exhibits submitted for
examination. The photostatic reproductions fail to

disclose the mere minute and significant features upon
which a definite opinion relative to authorship may be
based. Insofar as the foregoing conditions have
permitted comparison such comparison disclosed:
a)

a significant combination of similarities in common

between the handwritten letters, exhibits Q-1(1) and
Q-2(1), and no significant differences.
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LABORATORY REPORT NO.

0X16

RAPPORT DU LASORATOIRC N©
C LASSIFICATION

Special Services Section
FOR-DEsTiHATAiRE Thc D.D.G.
Ottawa, Ont.

C.N.

45

(Ops), Securlty Servxce, "HU" uxv., k.c.m. i'oiice,

Attn: Sgt, V. Watrich
REFERENCE -BEFiRENCE

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JLOPIES TO T

None elsewhere.

b) a number of persistent differences between the
questioned handwritten addresses on the envelopes,
exhibits Q-l(2) and Q-2{2).

On the basis of the exhibits presently on hand, the
evidence found indicates that the questioned handwritten
letters, exhibits Q-l(l) and Q-2(l), were executed by

CONCLUSION:

one author, and the questioned handwritten addresses,

on exhibits Q-l(2) and Q-2(2), were written by a second
author.

1) Copies 1 and 2 of this report together with all exhibits

REMARKS:

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(a) Schuman's Canadian Citizenship

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pf the Citisenship Court for a preliminary questicxiing concerning his

citizenship.

He answered one or two simple questions, and then it was all

drer. He is to appear with a niiraber of others at a formal swearing in
in the very near future.
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change his name he could do so by legal means after he becomes a citizen.
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Schuman e^qilalned again his tremendous urge to publish, either

by newspaper articles or. in the form of a book, his descriptions of the
Novosti Press* He has discussed this possibility with a number of
peoi^e, including an American journalist who once lived in India* He
did not appear to understand fully the fact that any editor would wish to
probe deeply all his background, probably including the facts surrounding
his defection, in order to establish Schuman's bona fides in his area of
claimed e^qjertise* He repeatedly stated that he could see no reason why
he sbpuld have to discuss his defection with an editor.

(d) Schuman*s Plans in the CBC
Since February 1975 Schuman has hoped to work, at least part~time,

in the Ehgllsh news section of the CBC*

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experience, and broaden the base of his expertise in case he decides to
leave the CBC and go into Journalism as a repoirter* He talked about the
possibility of Joining the V(lnnii&gt;eg Free Press.

He is clearly very fx\istrated with his present situation in the
Bitexnational Service of the CBC, and is very anriious to escape from
there, either into the Buglish language service or Journalism* To date
he has had no positive reply to his requests for transfer. He blames

the lack of le^ership, decision and administrative ability in the
management of the Intemational Service* "They do not want to rock the
boat."

If he does break loose from the CBC and become an independent
unrestrained iJoumalist, he may well publish articles which would provol
some sort of action on the part of the Russians* He clearly feels he has

a mission to expose the Soviet propaganda system* In so doing, he may
revealuaoj^ than he realizes, and stir up trouble for those idio have helped
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Attn: S^t. V. Watrich
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COPIES TO^COPIEsA

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The following exhibits were received at this Laboratory

GENERAL:

by mail on 20 OCT 75 from the D.D.G. (Ops), Security
Service, "HQ" Division, Ottawa, Ontario:

Q-l(l&amp;2):

One (1) photostatic copy of a handwritten
letter, and an air mail envelope addressed
to "Canada, Montreal Canadian Broadcast
Corp Attention of Mr Thomas Shuraan
Russian Department",

Q-2(l&amp;2):

One (1) photostatic copy of a handwritten

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addressed to "Russian,Ijept Canadian
Broadcasting Company Montreal, Canada.
FOR Mr, Thomas Shuman".

To compare the questioned handwritten material on

PURPOSE;

exhibits Q-l(l&amp;2) with questioned handwriting on exhibits]
Q-2 (1&amp;2).

Examination and comparison of the questioned handwriting
on exhibits Q-1 (1&amp;2) with questioned handwritten

DATA:

material on exhibits Q-2(l&amp;2) has been hampered to a

large extent due to the nature of exhibits submitted for
examination. The photostatic reproductions fail to
disclose the mere minute and significant features upon
which a definite opinion relative to authorship may be
based. Insofar as the foregoing conditions have

permitted comparison such comparison disclosed:
a) a significant combination of similarities in common
between the handwritten letters, exhibits Q-1(1) and
Q-2(l), and no significant differences.
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FOR-o«T,«*r.iRt

C.N. 45

D.D.G. (Ops), Security Service, "HQ" Div., R.C.M. Police,

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Attn; Sgt. V. Watrich
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b) a number of persistent differences between the
questioned handwritten addresses on the envelopes,
exhibits Q-1(2) and 0-2(2).

On the basis of the exhibits presently on hand, the

CONCLUSION;

evidence found indicates that the questioned handwritten
letters, exhibits Q-l(l) and Q-2(l), wisre executed by
one author, and the questioned handwritten addresses,
on exhibits Q-l(2) and Q-2(2), were written by a second
author.

1) Copies 1 and 2 of this report together with all exhibits

REMARKS;

submitted for exaunination are being forwarded, copy 3
on file at this Laboratory; no copies elsewhere.

Submitted by:

P.^.G., Supt.,

Shewchuk, B.A., S/Sgt.,

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Attached is a Note for File concerning a telephone conversation

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between Mr. Schuman and Mr. Landon on 15 October 75, as discussed
vfith you on l6 October 75.

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2.
I checked with Mr. F.D. Collins of Immigration and ascertained
that all Schuman records for purposes of immigration are in the

name of Schuman - not Bezmenov. He landed in Toronto (Malton) on

l6 July 70.

3.
I contacted Schuman at 0900 on l6 Oct 75* He re-iterated his
thoughts about changing his name - this time saying he did not wish
to commit perjury.

4.

I explained to him that as he had entered Canada under the

name of SchumanI could not see how he could be conmitting perjury by
swearing to his new name. Furthermore, his application to the Clerk

of the Court for Citizenship had been made in the name of Schuman, and
this application had been posted for two months.

Thus, it would seem

that his citizenship papers would have already been raade^ut in the name
of Schuman. To suddenly change his name back to Yiud. Bezmenov would
obviously lead to considerable cuiriosity on the part of court officials
and subsequent questions.

It would also seem reasonable that the Court

would postpone granting him citizenship until they had investigated the
case, and the reasons for Schuman changing his name to Bezmenov again.
5.

I also spoke to him about

. I strongly advised against this. To be honest, Schuman never
even mentioned
until he was discussing making out his will
some two years ago. He asked me how he should leave his money. I
suggested

- which came as a bit of a

was adamant that

, Now, having :

surprise to him. He obviously had not bven thought of it [

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, he feels he ought to

•'for humanitarian purposes". He feels this should

be done in the spirit of "detente" - something he has railled against
for years.

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evening about 4:30 p.m. He is to receive his Canadian citizen
ship on Friday 17 October and his call was to ask whether he
should declare his earlier.Russian, name at the ceremony.

2.

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his fellow countrymen and that there was no point in him continuing
the pretence particularly at such ceremonies as the conferral of
citizenship.
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with the Catholic Church because of his inability to be honest about

his name and his past.

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action regarding the declaration of his earlier name and that I would
discuss the matter with Mr. McGibbon who would be in touch with him.

I said also that the matters should be referred to the agency of which
Sgt. Pratt is a member.

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Further to our memo of 3 Sept 75 (and to RCMP of 15 Sept 75)
I received on Friday, 26 Sept 75, a copy of a second letter from
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and that the wording (and I think the handwriting) are somewhat
different to the first letter.

2.

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The Commissioner,
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Ottawa, Ontario.

Attn: Supt. M. Spooner,

Security Services

Tomas SCHUMAM

I am enclosing a memo dated 3 Sept 75 concerning a telephone
conversation with Schuman in connection \d.th a letter he had received from

a copy of the original letter to Schuman and a translation

of same; a note for file dated 8 Sept 75 which was a follow-up action on my
part.

I talked to George Seymour and John Venner about Schuman on

8 Sept 75 and it was decided that I should try to head Schuman off from
making some sort of foolish move. As you can see, he did not, on my first
telephone call, admit that he had already replied to

Schuman also explained that he was thinking of leaving the CBC
and going into journalism - possibly in Toronto or Winnipeg. He was pretty
vague about this, but obviously feels he has had enough of life in the
International Service of the CBC. He agreed that he should make certain
that he had a job to go to before quitting the CBC.
You may wish to send copies of the enclosed to Frank Pratt in

"C" Division in order to keep him abreast of these developments.

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As discussed with Messrs Seymoiu? and Venner of PSI, i

telephoned Schuman on Monday, 8 Sept 75. I pointed out that I had seen

other letters sent to liussians who had settled in Canada along the

same lines as that Schuman had received from
while this letter may well have been written by

prompted by the KGB.

.

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( it had been

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Schuman agreed this was very probably true.

I then said that the letter almost implied that Schuman'

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should return to the USSR rather than (as he had led me to believe).

Schuman agreed that this was quite

so. I emphasized very strongly that for him to make a visit to the USSR

would be a one-way trip with pretty awful results for Schuman.

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to do so would only be to confirm his present existence in his own

handwriting.

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them at some future date.

I also advised him not to

Later

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I phoned Schumiin again at 1530 hrs. on 8 Sept 75.

He stated

he had in fact acknowledged
As it was

too late to say much, I asked him not to reply to any further letters
but to send them to me. I also explained that
That

sxirprised him - and discouraged him.

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Tomas Schuman telephoned me from Montreal last night (2 Sept 75)

to sai'" that he had just recet\'sd a letter

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"Care of Intemationnl Service, CBC, Montreal". I have asked Schuman
to send me a copy.

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met.

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now be well Imown to Soviet authorities and his former associates.

4.

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I asked

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consult other authorities,

Schuman agreed to this.

8.
I suggest that the Defector Committee shovild discuss the
implications of Schiiman's latest moves as soon as possible, so that I
can advice Schuman.

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As agreed at the Defector Oomnlttef,niieeti|g of 22 Jm 75t I

cdotacted SdhuEon to izifora
tl^ I was not prepi^d to obtain Soviet
presa j^easea for hin« Schuinen tp^ this p^tp philQaophieaily. I then
urged him again nirt to ^te the type of "re^ew" ab^ iMch he had spoken
last week. I peihted out again that it was most uni^ae for him to draw
attention to himself.
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Mr. J. Hamilton

Schu^ )u^ told aic earlier that when his letter appeared in the

Man. &amp; Iimnig.

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Supt. M. Spooner.
SS/RCMP

Montreal Oasette them "had bpeh a good dedt of ilaek^. Enpwing that
neither jW nor t^^ R^ had oehtioned this leiter to him, 1 asked who had
been respohaible^^^^
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bwaiwe the letter had mentioned his cphnsPtioa with the CBG - and
not became of its cpnteni. Schtnun assured ne that he had been persuaded
to include the jmfers^e to the fhet that ^hanan was an ahnouncsr/produoer
in the CBG by t^ editor ot the Gasette — as it would give weight to the
views Schuaan had exp^ssed.

3.

SofauBBn^sald he felt expelled to write articles esqposing the

Soviet medi^J^ause "so mubh pi^^

p^pagiMa is put owt by t^

InternatioK^ Ses^ep of t^ CBC. I am amased that no one tries to amiitor
this. I am doing ny best to iaaintar soiiia af this jww!t;i.^hwii^
propaga^a

by writing my re^ewi For exa^o, if th« Soviet Ambassador prssenta a few
books on Mark to i Canadian university, the story is t^d in glowing

terms." "life in tiw Sdviet Ikiibn is treated in glowing terms caiq&gt;ared to
life In Canada."

4.
Schuman said that it was "possible" that some of his colleagues
in the ^sian,si|dtion received gifts itom Soviet authorities for this
pro-Jhisatan treati^t hut he did not kow for certain. They had often

accused him of belpg "dlsloyid to the, pr|1Mzatio^^

foild^ng their

lead in his brofd^ts. Schuman mentions^ iieven as being the ptlme mover
in respect to kdw^toidng to the Russians,

Sch^ifflin- was vexy upset that "the Canadian public has no idsa of

how it is spendi^
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Service. If sdnedne
were to tell Hortda Sehuimen or one of tiie Tomito newspapers w^t reaily
goes on, there wbuld be a good deal of tr^ie. The Canadian public doesn't
listen to the broadcasts - idiieh in any case are in Russianf"
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Alekaandr Ch^a^i PP!^ to Canada for the OlyispiLcs* They sioply do not helieve
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AFTER JAN 1/75, HE WOULD LEAVE CBC. HOWEVER XX HE IS PRESENTLY

QUITE satisfied. HE MENTIONED HAVING MET MR. MC GIBBON AND MR.
LANDON (SRB) IN DECEMBER AND ADVISED HAVING GOT THE IMPRESSION
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AND PLACE all HIS EFFORTS THERE I.E. MAKE A CAREER OUT OF IT.
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WAS MET ON THIS OCCASION BECAUSE IT HAD BEEN SOME

TIME SINCE OUR LAST ENCOUNTER.

BUT HARDLY DEPRESSED.

HE WAS FOUND TO BE SOMEWHAT PASSIVE

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Tomas SCHUMAN

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At 1530 h^s 20 Janua:^ 75 Scfauman telepboned ne to say

that **X hare almost fi^slvKi mlting my ^maffnam ophs* on the Soviet
Mass Media. Aithoh^Ihave my old notes, IWould liJce to get some
recent examples of Soviet zwleases in .Underdeveloped countries.

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a review** and he will give this to his friends **acadisiidLc8 and Journalists"
for their use. He does not intend to publish it under

bis own name.

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^Schuman su^ested that if I (or he) could not

I "maybe I cmild ask some Cana^an fiends tourists - idio
vlsit^lt^erdeveloped countries to pick up saii^es for ma and bring
them back".

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Questioned about ^s letter in the Montreal Gazette, Scfauman

said he had already Written titLs letter to the Editor before ho saw

me In DecendWar 74. The Editor had contacted Schusi^^ suggested it
should be published as a "point of view** and Schtmian agreed.
I told SchumanI would try to get some answers to his
question and call back to him within a few days.

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meet as sOon as possible to plan idiat approach should be made to Schuman.
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X convened this aL'ternoon a ineet/'ni' of the Defectors Comriiittee

bo consider the action of Thontas Shvuu-in i.n publishinp the at+ached item
in today's issue of the fontreul Dazette. Present were Insp. -D. Colwell
OI5IfilBUTI^N

and S/Sgt. S. Wir})e, Mr. J. Hamilton, X ft I, Kr. CPP Tandon, SRB, and

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to pubXish, Equally it could be that newspapers will not be intei'ested in
receiving material from him on any pro.fe3sion,:il basis (the carrent article
appeared in a 'readers colujiin'). It, ivas thought unlikely that he would

write an e,xpose of ids own backgrouTid* although j oiTiewhat unpredictable it
was believed that even he v/ould see the unwi.sdom of such a step.

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a result of this article,

lb would be ar; ui.welcome prospect i.f he learned

and published the whole sto.ry but it was conr5iderea tJiat the GSEa could

handle any questions with a minimum o" embarrassment to the government.
cou,Id either -^eftuse (o comment or iral'e tlie point that as it had done

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in the past Canada h.ad simply admif tf.id a Soviet citiaen diser.chanted with

life in the ooviof. Hnion.

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vTOuld be useful if only for the record. To ignore the current article
could conceivably le-ad him to believe that we could live with it.
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spoken first to SRH and then to the RCFiP, about this article.

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As a former Soviet citizen and reserve of

ficer of the Soviet army, I would like to tell
my Canadian friends about three common and,
to my mind, dangerous myths related to East- ,
West military confrontation and the level of
defence that a country like Canada should
maintain.

Detente is a dangerous myth, for while the
North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO)
countri.ss cut their military spending the War

saw bloc builds up its aggressive might in
Europe.

So far. detente e.xists only on paper or in
the minds of ix)liticians. No real willingness to

A column open to

What I would suggest to a country like
Canada is to spend, more money for an infor
mation system which tells Canadians and peo

express viewpoints on topics of interest.

ple outside Canada more about the positive
aspects of the Canadian Armed Forces, about

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Tomas Schuman, who has lived in Canada
for more than four years, is an announcerproducer with CBC International.

must not allow her army to be demoralized by

brainwashed in the spirit of hatred of the
"decadent West."

To give an example: when I was a student
at Moscow State University, I had to undergo

military training as a reserve military in
telligence officer. For our war games, our in

games with maps of the U.S.S.R. That is good.

aware of commonly accepted truths about the

"Do not act aggressively, and the aggressor
will never touch you" . .. that does not work

da.

The Soviet citizen is as unfree to go out of
his country as before, and no foreign news
papers are allowed in to the communist coun
tries. So detente exists only for the leaders,

dining and drinking in each other's capitals,
but not for the people of communist countries.
Yes rny people, Russians, may be as peace
ful as the (Chinese or as tte Canadians. But it
will not be the people who fight, it will be the

European languages.
Canadians have to break through the cen

the iron curtain that you are a peaceful peo

of ttie socialist countries are basically as un

that "U.S. imperialism" is going to attack them
any minute, and the Eastern communist lead
ers continue to brainwash their people in the
spirit of war paranoia. Do not believe me —
take any issue of the Soviet newspaper Prav-

Spend more money for international broad
casting of the CBC in Russian and other East

youths in universities or schools playing war

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West as before. The Soviets are still convinced

One' more idea from a Russian immigrant:
promote'peace.

sorship of the communist countries and ex

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structors used the • maps of West Germany
and the U.S.A. That shows the intentions of the
Kremlin. I have never seen any Canadian

come to peace terms with the West has been
demonstrated by the communist bloc. People

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the peacekeeping role of (Canadians. The army
must be respected by the pwpulation. Canada

with communism, or fascism.

From the communist, fascist or territorist

philosophical viewpoint the West is historically
doomed, capitalist democracy is corrupt.
Just by definition you are. in the West, wrong

any way. According to Marxist dogma, you
have to give way to the "loetter system" of

centralized dictatorship of the pa^, tlie

plain to the Soviets and other people beyond
ple, that Canada stands for friendship, open
society, freedom of movement, of ideas and
people. Russians do not know about this be
cause the Soviet propaganda machinery, of
which I myself was a part five years ago, tells
my people that the communist bloc is con
stantly being threatened by NATO (and that
includes Canada) and that on the other hand,
poor Canadians dream of being liberated by
the glorious Soviet army.
Convince the Russians that it is not true --

GULAG system. But, says the doctrine, the
ruling imperialist circles are fighting for their

spend mere money for broadcasting on short

survival.

wave beamed to the communist countries.

Therefore, using military force to save op

armies, and the communist armies are highly

pressed Canadians from their industrialists is
inevitable. In this context peacefulness and
disarmament are signs of weakness, that is ex
actly what tempts the Soviet and other toteli-

disciplined, unlike the U.S. army, thoroughly

tarian leaders to strike the first blow.

Words are more powerful these days than

bullets, and the Kremlin knows that very well.
That is why Moscow is so afraid of interna
tional satellite broadcasting. Spend more for

the propaganda of peace, in the long run ii
may come cheaper than rockets and tanks.

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Security Service

Tomas Schuman

^On^Thursday, 5 December 74, Mr. C.R. Landon and I saw Tomas
Schuman again in Montreal. The following is a brief summary of our

discussion. I am enclosing an additional copy of this letter for onward

transmission to Mr. Frank Pratt of "C" Division for his information

please.

The main reason for our visit was Schuman's tentative request

to be allowed to publish articles on the "workings of the Soviet media",
to appear on television if requested, and, if requested, to take part in
symposia (probably in the USA) on the subject. Schuman told us that he

felt very strongly that the North American public was being led astray by
the media, which often carried Soviet written/inspired articles lauding the
Soviet way of life, Soviet aid to underdeveloped countries, etc. Schuman
felt that much of the i^ormation contained in such articles is false and
misleading - indeed it is deliberate misinformation. As he had been personally

involved - while in India -

right person to expose the Russian system.

he felt he was the

We were absolutely adamant that he should not appear on T.V.
and, after we explained the risks, he agreed. We discussed his ideas about
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thought Schuman's scheme would be worthwhile, sQ.thoi:gh there
were no commitments on either side. It appears, however, that if Schuman

does write for the press (presumably with the assistance of a qualified
journalist/editor) the latter would wish to check out all Schuman's
background. ("Any competent writer could do this easily".) We pointed
out that as Schuman

, it v/oiild not be long before Schuman's
real name and history would become public property. We further pointed out
that should Schuman's real name and story become known, the events leading

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up to his escape from India, his entry to Canada and his registration at
the University of Toronto, etc. could cause considerable embarrassment to
. It might also make it difficult for

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Canadian authorities ever to help anyone who found himself in Schuman's
former position. I think we made Schuman see the sense of keeping as
quiet as possible.

We suggested that he might give the facts of Soviet disinformation

practices to a fellow journalist and let the latter write the articles -

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or even write one himself txnder a nom de plume, if he felt so compelled.

He said he would consider such action.

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Schuman seemed rather depressed and unhappy. He had, the week
before, been on a real alcoholic binge and was still feeling the effects.
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. He was also very dissatisfied with

working conditions in the CBC, especially the yelling and shouting, backbiting
and knifing that goes on all the time in the Russian section.

He felt

he would prefer to work as a freelance writer rather than as a permanent
employee of the CBC. Just at the moment the CBC are in the process of
deciding whether they should start offering contracts to freelance writers

such as Schuman. However, in Schuman's case they would much prefer him to
remain on staff, as he is useful to them in an all—round way (administrative
chores, splicing tapes, etc.) which others in the Russian section cannot
do.

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By THOMAS SCHUMAN

■ ■ As a fonner Soviet citizen end reserve of-

fidef of the Soviet army, I would like to tell
■my Canadian friends alaout three common and,
to my mind, dangerous myths related to East&gt;Vest. military confrontation and the level of

defence that a country like Canada should
maintain.

DialoffllP'
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express viewpoints on topics of interest.
Tomas Schuman, who has lived in Canada

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' Detente is a dangerous myth, for while the

brainwashed in the spirit of hatred of the

..coihfjries cut their military spending the WarsaAv bloc builds up its aggressive might in

at Moscow State University, I had to undergo

North Atlantic Treaty Organization iNATOi

Europe.,

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' decadent West."

To give an example: when I was a student

military training as a reserve military in

What I would suggest to a couBtry
Canada is to spend more money for an mfw

mation system which tells Canadiana and petV;
pie outside Canada more about the posUlve
aspects of the Canadian Arnied Forces, about
the peacekeeping role of Canadians. The army

must be respected by the; popidatioh. Canada
must not allow her arrtiy to be'demoralized by

hysterical protesters as hapi«aed in the U.S.
One more idea from a Ru^ian immigrant:
promote peace.

Spend more money for intenmtiQnal broad

telligence officer. For our war games, our in
structors ^ used the maps of West Germany

casting of the CBC in Russian and other East

demonstrated by the communist bloc. People

Kremlin. I have never seen any Canadian

sorship of the communist countries and

will never touch you" . . . that does not work

^ So far, ditwte'exists only on paper or in
fJ» minds of Joliticians. No real willingness to

WfTie to peace tarns with the West has been

and the U.S..A. That shows the intentions of the

European languages.

Canadians have to break flirough the

Npst as before. The Soviets are still convinced

youths in universities or schools playing war
games with maps of the U.S.S.R. That'is good.
Do not act aggressively, and the aggressor

plain to the Soviets and other people beydhd'
the iron curtain that you are a peaceful peo*'
pie. that Canada stands for friendship, open-

any minute; and the Elastern communist lead-

with communism, or fascism.

m continue to brainwash their people in the
spirit of war paranoia. Do not believe me —•

philosophical viewpoint the West is historically

take any issue of the Soviet newspaper Prav-

da..

Just by definition you are. in the West, wrong

people. Russians do not know about this beV,
cause the Soviet propaganda machinery, of:
which 1 myself was a part five years ago, tgllst
my people that the communist bloc Is con^'
stantly being threatened by NATO (and Uvat
includes Canada! and that on the other hand;
poor Canadians dream of being liberated bV'
the glorious Soviet army.

of the socialist countries are basically as un
aware of commonly accepted truths about the

that "U.S. Imperialism" is going to attack them

_ _ The Soviet citizen is is unfrce to go out of
his country as befOre, and no foreign news

From the communist, fascist or territcrist

doomed, capitalist democracy is corrupt.

any way. According to Marxist dogma, you
have to give way to the "better system" of

ti;ies. So detente exists only for the leaders,

dining and/d^ing in each other's capitals,

centralized dictatorship of the party, the
Gl^G sj'stern. But. says the doctrine, the
ruling imperialist circles are fighting for their

but hot for the people of communist countries.

survival.

•■Ves my people, Russians, may be as peace-

Therefore, using military force to save op

papers are allowed in to the communist coun-

Convince the Russians that it is not true-r.
spend more money for broadcasting on short

wave beamed to the communist countries^'

pressed Canadians from their industrialists is

Words are more powerful these days thad
bullets, and the Kremlin knows that very well, ;,

actly what tempts the Soviet and other totali-

lional satellite broadcasUng. Spend more for-

ful as the Chined or,as the Canadians. But it
^ll.not»te the people Who fight, it will be the

inevitable. In this context peacefulness and
disarmament are signs of weakness, that is ex

disciplined. unlikc the U.S. army, thoroughly

, tartan leaders to strike the first blow.

arthies, 'and the commu.ilsl armies are highly

society. freedom of movement, of ideas and,,

That is why Moscow is so afraid of Internal

the propaganda of peace» in the long run ii-

may come cheaper than rockets and tanks. ^ ^

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games reveal Kremlin mind, says irhmigrddi J
ey THOMAS SCHUMAN
a former Soviet citizen and reserve o^

ficer, of the Soviet army, I would like to tell

iny Canadian friends about three common and,
to rriy mind, dangerous myths related to EastWest military &lt;x)nfrontation and the level of

defence that a country like Canada should
maintain.

, Detente Is a dangerous myth, for while the
North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO.i

co^tries cut thdr military spending &amp;e War

saw bloc builds up its aggressive might in

Europe. ^ .

■ So far, detente exists only on paper or in
the minds of politicians. No real willingness to
come to peace terms with the West has been
demonstrated by the communist bloc. People
of the socialist coontrir^ are basically as un

aware of comrnonly accepted truths about the

Wesf as before. The Soviets are still convinced
th'ati'XtS. imperialism" is going to attack them

^y fniinute. and the Elastern communist lead
ers t»nlinue to brainwash their people in the

i^rit of war paranoia. Do not b^ve me —Mtfce'any issue of the Soviet newspaper Pravda. ■"

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■' ,The Soviet citizen is as unfree to go out of

his oouirtry as before, and no foreign news-

pa^rs are allowed in to the communist coun

tries. So detente exists only for the leaders,

dinitig and drinking in each other's capitals,

but not for the people of communist countries.
% Ycs my people, Russians, may be as peace

ful-as the Chii^ or,as the Canadians. But it
will hot be the people who fight, it will be the

armies, and the commu.iist armies are highly
disciplined, unlike the U.S. army, thoroughly
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Dialogue:

A column open to
readers who toish to

express viewpoints on topics of interest.
Tomas Schuman, who has lived in Canada
for more than four years, is an announcerproducer with. CBC International.

brainwashed in the spirit of hatred of the
"decadent West."

To give an example: when I was a student
at Moscow State University, I had to undergo
military tra'mmg as a reserxe military in
telligence officer. For our war games, our in
structors used the maps of West Germany
and the U.S.A. That shows the intentions of the

Kremlin. I have never seen any Canadian
youths in universities or schools playing war
games with maps of the U.S.S.R. That is good.
"Do not act aggressively, and the aggressor
will never touch you" . . . that does not work
with communism, or fascism.
From the communist, fascist or territorist

philosophical viewpoint the West is historically

doomed, capitalist democracy is corrupt.
Just by definition you are. in the West, wrong
any way. According to Marxist dogma, you
. have to give way to the "better system" of
centralized dictatorship of the party, tl»e
GULAG system. But, says the doctrine, the
ruling imperialist circles are fighting for their

What I would suggest to A cooBtry

Canada is to spend more money for an inlijn'}

mation system which tells Canadians and jpe^.
pie outside Canada more about the positiva

aspects of the Canadian Armed Forces, about
the peacekeeping role of Canadians. The army
must be respected by, the: population. Canada

must not allow her arnty to be; demoralized by
hysterical protesters as happenied in the U.S.
One more idea from a Ru^ian immigrant:

promote peace.

Spend more money for intemalional broad*,

casting of the CBC in Russian and other East
European languages.
: ■

Canadians have to break ttirou^ the cehr

sorship of the communist countries and e»' .

piain to the Soviets and other people beycted-'
the iron curtain that you are a peaceful pea*''
pie. that Canada stands for friendship, opeit,,
society, freedom of movement, of ideas
people. Russians do not know about this he-s,

cause the Soviet propaganda machinery, of;"
which I myself was a part five years ago,

my people that the communist bloc Is coa^'
stantly being threatened by

(and that

includes Canada) and that on the other hand;:

poor Canadians dream of being liberated b^.i
the glorious Soviet army.
Convince the Russians that it is not true t

spend more money for broadcasting on short*

survival.

wave beamed to the communist countries.;,

pressed Canadians from their industrialists is

bullets, and the Kremlin knows that very well.

Therefore, asing military force to save op

inevitable. In this context peacefulness and
disarmament are signs of weakness, that is ex
actly what tempts the Soviet and other totali
tarian leaders to strike the first blow.

Words are more powerful these days than

That is why Moscpw is so afraid of Internai

tional satellite broadcasting. Spend more for
Ihe propaganda of peace, in tte long run it;

may come cheaper than rockets and tanks.

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