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FM WASH,DCAPRl 7/57 CONFD.
TO EXTERNAL 923 OPIMMEDIATE
FOR MINISTER AND UNDER-SECRETARY ONLY
REF YOUR TEL DS96 Apl', 16

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- FURTHER TESTIMONY CONCERNING A CANADIAN OFF"ICIAL

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F"OLLOWING.OUR PHONE CONVERSATIONAT NOON TODAY,I CALLED ON ROSERT
MURPHY,DEPUTYUNDERSECBETARY,PRIMARIL'l'.TO DEAL WITH THE SPECIFIC
REQUEST IN THE DEPT'S TEL UNDER REF.LISTER

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OF BNA WAS ALSO PRESENT.

TOLD MURPHY(AS WE HAD INDIC·ATED EARLIER TO LISTER)THAT WE HAD

HEARD THROUGHINDIVIDUAL CANADIAN CORRESPONDENTSOF THE EXIST£NCE
OF AN"INTERNAL"DOCUMFNTOF THE INTERNAL SECURITY SU'3COt'!:'1ITTEE;WHICH,
IN ITS SECT IONS PEA LING
CANADIAN OFFICIAL.SO

wITH THE TSJJRU HEARINGs ,coNTA I NED REFS TO A

FAR AS WE WERE AWARE;THESE FEFS HAD NOT BEfN

MADE PUBLIC,BUT THE POSSIBILITY

OF THEIR BEING PUBLISHED DIRECTLY

OR INDIRECTLY BY THE SUBCOMMITTEE MADE IT NECESSARY FOR US TO INDICATE
THAT WE WOULDEXPECT THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEEWDULD NOT PUBJ.,ISH THIS
NAME.,ORTHE NAMES OF ANY OTHER CANA.DIANS,ANDTHAT IF THERt ARE ANY
FURTHER NAMES WHICH HAVE NOT ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED'PUBLICLY,THE INFO
A90UT THEM SHOULD BE PASSED IN CONFIDENCE TO THE CANADIAN GOVT TO BE
DEALT WITH IN CANADA IN ACCORDANCEWITH THE REQUESTS .WHICH WE HAVE
MADE REPEATEDLY.TH.IS WAS THE PROC_EDURER~FERRED iO MOST REC,!cNTLYIN
PARAS 2 AND 3 OF OUR NOTE OF APR10.
3.IN

MAKING THIS POINT WITH SPECIFIC

REF TO THE NAME OF THE CANADIAN

OFFICIAL MENT! ONfD IN THE TS URU TEST IMONY, I MADE IT CLEAR THAT THIS
REQUEST DID NOT AFFECT THE VIEW PREVIOUSLY TRANS:1ITTED T-0 THE STATE
DEPT THAT SO F~-.RAS YOUR OWNNAME IS CONCtRNED,YOU WOULDNOT WISH ME
TO TAKE ANY ACTION TO SUGGEST THAT THE STATE DEPT SHOULD T(IKE ANY
STEPS OR MAKEANY EFFORT TO SUPPRESS THESE OLD ALLEGATIONS.IN SO
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DREWATTENTION TO THE FAC't THAT l HAD MADETHIS POINT EARLIER
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SA'ID THAT ON THE FIRST ASSURANCE REQUESTED IN OUR NOTE OF

APRlO,CONCERNING THE GENERAL PROCE.'DURETO BE FOLLOWED IN FUTURE,THE
MOMENTWAS NOT OPPORTUNE1'0 PRESS THE SUBC,.OMMITTEE,AND
r!E THOUGHT
THAT THE CHANCES OF OBTAINING A REASONABLYSATISFACTORY ASSURANCE
ON THIS POINTCWHICHOF COURSE AFFECTS DIRECTLY THE STATE DEPT'S
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REPLYTO OURNOTEOF APRlO)WOULD
BE IMPROVED
BY WAITINGA FEWDAYS,
BOTHMURPHY
ANDLISTER AGREED,HOWEVER,THAT
OURREQUESTWITHREF TO
THE SPECIFIC CASt ARISING OUT6F THE TSURUHEARING~WOULD
BE BROUGHT
BY THE STATEDEPT TO THE ATTENT-ION
OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE
AS A MATTER
OF URGENCY,
5,I ALSOTOOKTHE OCCASIONTO SUGGESTTHAT'T~E STATE.DEPT SHOULD
SENDUS AS SOONAS POSSIBLE AT LEASTAN INTERIMREPLYTO OURNOTE
OF APR10 IN AS FORTHCOMING
TERMSAS POSSIBLE.MURPHY
INDICATEDTHAT
THIS WASIN THE MILL,ANDTHATHE HOPES.TO BE ABLETO GIVE US SOMETHING
TODAYOR TOMORROW,
6,BOTH MURPHY
ANDLrsn;R WERECONCERNED
AT THE POSSIBILITY OF THE
NORMAN
CASE.AND ITS REPERCUSSIONS
BECOMING
AN ELECTORAL
ISSUE IN
CANADA,WITH
THE CONSEQUENCE
THATTHEFIR£S OF CONTROVERSY
WOULD
BE
FED DOWN
HERE.I TOLDTHEMFRANKLY
THATIT WASALREADY
A MATTER
OF
SERIOUSPUBLIC CONTROVERSY
IN CANADA
WHICHMADEIT ALL THE MORE
IMPORTANT
FOR THE USA ADMINISTRATION
TO MOVEAS QUICKLYANDEFFECTIVELYAS POSS.iBLETO OBTAINA REASONABLE
SOLUTION.
OF THEIR PROBLEMSWITH.THE~ENATESUBCOMMITTEE,
7, SUBSEQUENTLY
I• SAID TO MURPHY
THAT,IF NECESSARY,
YOUWISHEDTO BE
IN A POSITION TO USE PUBLICLYALL MATERIAL
MADEAVAILABLETo THE
CANADIAN
AUTH:ORITIE;S
THROUGH
SECURITYCHANNELS
CONCERNING
CANADIANS
MENTIONED
IN SUBCOMMITTEE
PROCEEDINGS.YOU
HADALREADY
MADETHIS
REQUESTTHROUGH
THE USUALROUTEWITHRESPECTTO THE BENTLEYTESTIMONY.THERE
MAYBE DIFFICULTYIN OBTAININGCOMPLIANCE
WITHTHE
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