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You will recall that last year the Combined Policy
Committee was reconstituted in order to advance cooperation
among the United States, the United Kingdom and Canada in
research and development, in military fields 'Where the three
countries have mutual defence interests. While the Committee
has not met, subordinate groups have been very active. V*"«
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The State Department has been considering whether,
having formally revived the Combined Policy Committee,
anything further need be done.' Rutter in the Office of the
Special Assistant to the Secretary for Atomic Energy has
informed us that the State Department has completed a study
which is now being considered by the various departments
concerned. In brief, this study has concluded that the
existing situation is satisfactory. Rutter said that the
idea had been mooted that a pro forma meeting of the Committee
might be convened at the level, on the United States side,
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bfBefsafcy Under-Secretary of State for Political Affairs
(Mri Merchant). At this meeting the Committee would consider
whether the situation should be allowed to continue as at
present with the Combined Policy Committee in existence but
inactive and with the subordinate groups operating as they do
-now-and reporting to governments through the Subcommittee
(see paragraph 7 below). Rutter said that Farley (Special
Assistant to the Secretary for Disarmament and Atomic Energy)
had conceded that convening a pro forma, meeting of the Committee
would consolidate the reconstitution of the Gommittee but he
considered that from a practical point of view this was
unnecessary.

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Rutter said that it was expected that "within a month
or so" the State Department woulfl be handing an aide memoire
to the United Kingdom Embassy and ourselves which would review
the history of the Combined Policy Committee, with particular
reference to the State Department's aide memoire of March 11,
1959 proposing reconstitution, indicate what has been •
accomplished in the interim by the subordinate groups, suggest
that no guidance or supervision is at this stage necessary and
request the views of the United Kingdom and ourselves. The
State Department's view, however, was that the framework for
consultation^ i.e. the Committee, should be retained in case
it is needed in the future. Rutter cautioned that the sense
of the aide memoire might be changed as a result of interdepartmental consultation though he thought it unlikely that
it would be.

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U. T • The United States Director of Defense Research and Engineering
had-expressed his informal view to the Defence Research Attache that a
local Washington group of the three countries should be named .to act for •
the Combined Policy Committee as might be required. It was understood
that the Department of "Defense had proposed this action to the Department '
:of State for consideration. This, no doubt, is what stimulated the
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current examination of the question by the State Department. It would
appear, howeyer, that upon further consideration the State Department does
not see a requirement for constituting a local Washington group which would
presumably serve as deputies to the principals. In fact Rutter specifically
stated that Farley1s;view was that the local secretariat of the Committee
' (viz., Farley,United States; Wiggin, United Kingdom; and Williamson of
this Embassy) could provide the necessary permanent staff of the Committee
in Washington.
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We have been in touch with Wiggin of the United Kingdom Embassy
to ascertain'whether he had any views concerning the United Kingdom
reaction to the State Department's study of the role of the Combined Policy .
Gommittee. Wiggin said he had drawn the fact of the study to London's
attention suggesting that from a practical point of view the situation
appeared to be quite satisfactory as it now was. He had, however, had no
official comment from London other .than that they would await the completion
of the study and the presentation of the conclusions as forecast by Rutter.
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For the time being the above may be regarded for information only. ;
It may be, however, that you will wish to give some consideration to what
role might be desirable for the Combined Policy Committee from the Canadian
point.of view. For this purpose a brief summary of what has been established
and accomplished under the tripartite technical cooperation programme may
be helpful.
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Although the agreement under which the Combined Policy Committee
was reconstituted provides for certain technical sub-groups to deal with
nuclear weapons, nuclear materials and nuclear power sources, Canada has
not to our knowledge participated in this portion of the programme.
Tripartite activities have been conducted by a' Subcommittee of the Combined
Policy Gommittee for Non-Atomic Military Research and Development (NAMRAD),
on which the Canadian representative is the Chairman of the Defence Research
Board. Under it at present are eleven sub-groups; each dealing with some
field of research and development activity. Consideration is presently •
being given to increasing this number to thirteen or fourteen by extension
.of the programme into additional fields. Most of .the Sub-groups have a
number of panels, each of which may meet several times in the course of a
year to. exchange information and to plan coordination of programmes. To
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provide continuous supervision of the non-atomic sub-groups the Subcommittee V
has named deputies resident in Washington. -The Canadian deputy is the
Defence Research Attache, Dr. Morton, who, of course, deals with the 'Chairman,' Defence Research Board, on a day-to-day basis on matters concerning
the activities of the sub-groups and their panels. The Subcommittee meets
annually in March, and the deputies a minimum of four times a year. The
Subcommittee approves and issues an annual report which is presumably
available to the members of the Combined Policy Committee. On the
Canadian side these are the Secretary of State for External Affairs, the
Minister of National Defence and the President of the Atomic Energy Control
Board.
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8. gA.;.- We are attaching for your information two papers passed to us
by the.Defence Research Attache's office. They provide in concise form
an outline of the history of the Tripartite Technical Cooperation
Programme (United States, United Kingdom and Canada) and a description of
the activities of Sub-Group "G" (Anti-Submarine Defence) as an example of
the detailed activities tinder the Programme. We have formed the impression
here that this Programme is as a whole going very well. It is not only
permitting Canadian defence scientists more rapid and complete access to
United States and United Kingdom information which they require, but also
enables Canada to contribute more directly and surely to tripartite defence
capabilities than would otherwise be the case. A recent example may serve
to illustrate the point. Last fall the Defence Research Board produced a
report of an experimental project on hydrofoil craft which included a
favourable assessment of the possibility of designing a craft of about
two hundred tons which would be comparatively inexpensive to-produce and
might contribute by virtue of its high speed to the solution of the problem
of detecting, tracking and destroying submarines. This report was considered
by Sub-Group "G", and its recommendations evidently had a substantial
impact on the United States Navy, who are concerned with the necessity of
radical improvement in their anti-submarine capability. The Department of
Defense has as a result immediately started to plan a substantial development programme for such craft, and have expressed the hope that Canada
can undertake complementary and non-duplicating phases of this Programme
with a view to ultimate joint production and use. of the products. It is
understood that in consequence -fehafc our Department of Defence Production
may propose a Canadian design study for a hydrofoil craft which might be
one of a family of such ships of different types and dimensions. This
example, among others, suggests that in the course of review of the means
of implementing Canadian defence policy in the difficult period which may
lie ahead consideration perhaps should be given to increased reliance on
defence science as .a form of contribution to the defence of the free world.
It appears to be a contribution which is particularly welcome in an age
when the keenest competition is technological in character. It is
obviously also one that may help to retain in Canada scientists and
engineers who would otherwise be attracted to the United States, and may
serve to strengthen and broaden-the Canadian economy.
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According to its terms of reference the task of the Combined;
Policy.Committee was to "establish broad policies and procedures for 1
scientific and technical cooperation in research'and development for '
military purposes, both nuclear and non-nuclear". In the recommendation
to the Cabinet proposing our agreement to reconstitution it is stated, .
"Reactivation of the Combined Policy Committee ... would provide an
gumbrella for practical forms of cooperation in military research and '
development, in both the nuclear and non-nuclear fields, and appropriate •
Ministerial machinery through which the various forms of technical
cooperation could be guided and stimulated". This suggests that it was
intended to provide for both political and technical direction. The
latter is provided by the Subcommittee and the deputies. Against the
event that major policy guidance may at some stage be necessary, and to,
provide a more convenient alternative to assembling the Combined Policy
Committee, you may consider that it might be desirable to establish a
local Washington group representing the Committee, with the Ambassador
acting as Canadian representative. The sort of questions -which might
require guidance at, the Committee level are comprehensive proposals for
pooling funds in research and development or proposals for originating
common programmes on a larger scale or with a greater sense of urgency
than heretofore.

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