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INFO WASHDC
RtF YOUR TEL DL924 NOV 12
COMBINED POLICY COMMITTEE
WE SAW SIR RICHARD POWELL,PERMANENT SECRETARY IN THE MINISTRY OF
DEFENCE,YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.
2 , SIR RICHARD FIRST GAVE US AN OUTLINE OF THE BACKGROUND OF THE
PROPOSAL TO REVIVE THE COMBINED POLICY COMMITTEE WHICH GENERALLY
CONFORMED WITH THE ACCOUNT GIVEN BY JOHN ROPER TO OUR EMBASSY IN
WASHDCC WASHDC TEL 2 7 3 8 N0V6).THE PROPOSAL HAD ITS ORIGIN IN THE CONCEPT
OF"INTEROEPENDENCE"PROCLAIMED BY PRESIDENT EISENHOWER AND PRIME MINISTER
MACMILLAN IN OCT/57 AND IN SUBSEQUENT RELATED DEVELOPMENTS.ITS
MAIN OBJECTIVE WAS TO PROVIDE AN UMBRELLA TO THE VARIOUS FORMS OF
CO-OPERATION AMONG THE USA,THE UK AMD CANADA IN MILITARY RESEARCH AND
DEVELOPMENT,BOTH NUCLEAR AND NON-NUCLEAR,IN WHICH THE THREE COUNTRIES
HAD HUTUAL INTERESTS.THE REVIVAL OF THE CPC HAD THE ADVANTAGE OF
OBVIATING THE DIFFICULTIES WHICH THE SETTING UP OF NEW MACHINERY
WOULD CREATE.SIR RICHARD CONCURRED IN OUR OBSERVATION THAT THE PROPOSAL .
WAS A NATURAL ONE TO ADVANCE AT THIS STAGE OF THE EVOLUTION OF
TRIPARTITE CO-OPERATION AS IT WAS BEING AFFECTED BY CONSIDERATIONS OF
"INTERDEPENDENCE,"
3.AT VARIOUS POINTS DURING OUR CONVERSATION,SIR RICHARD REITERATED,
AS I F TO MEET ANY PREOCCUPATIONS WHICH WE MIGHT HAVE,THAT THE FUNCTIONS
OF THE CPC WOULD BE LIMITED TO"RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT."WE DONT THINK
THE USA AND UK HAVE ANY MOTIVES OTHER THAN THE AVOWED AND APPARENT ONES.
4.WE ASKED SIR RICHARD WHETHER IT WAS CONTEMPLATED THAT THE CPC MIGHT
EVENTUALLY CONCERN ITSELF WITH DEFENCE PRODUCTION.HE COMMENTED THAT
THE USA AND UK HAD INCONCLUSIVELY DISCUSSED THIS IDEA DURING THE
PREPARATION OF THE USA DRAFT AIDE MEMOIRE.HE UNDERSTOOD,HOOWEVER,
THAT MR PEARKE3 DURING A RECENT V I S I T TO WASHDC,HAD LAID THE GROUNDS
FOR GREATER CANADIAN-AMERICAN CO-OPERATION IN THE FIELD OF DEFENCE
PRODUCTION.USA AUTHORITIES HAD SINCE THEN SHOWN A REVEWED INTEREST
IN BRINGING SUCH CO-OPERATION ON A TRIPARTITE BASIS WITHIN THE FRAME_

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WORK OF THE REVISED CPC.HOWEVER,THE INITIATIVE IN THfS REGARD RESTED
WITH THE USA.
5.WE REMARKED THAT THE PROPOSED MEMBERSHIP OF THE CPC WAS RATHER
IMPRESSIVE AND WONDERED IN PARTICULAR WHETHER THE INCLUSION OF THE
THREE FOREIGN MINISTERS HAD ANY SPECIAL SIGNIFICANCE.SIR RICHARD
RECALLED THAT FOREIGN MINISTERS WERE ORIGINAL MEMBERS OF THE CPC.THEY
HAD BEEN RETAINED IN THE REVIVED CPC BECAUSE OF THEIR GENERAL POLITICAL
RESPONSIBILITY,AS REPS OF THE THREE HEADS OF GOVT,FOR ALL MATTERS
CODING WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF"INTERDEPENDENCE."IN PRACTICE,HOWEVER,
SINCE MOST OF THE FUNCTIONS TO BE ENTRUSTED TO THE CPC AND TO ITS
SUBORDINATE GROUPS WERE OF A TECHNICAL AND MILITARY CHARACTER,THE
FOREIN MINISTERS WOULED ONLY EXCEPTIONALLY BE EXPECTED TO ATTEND THE
R_ © MEETINGS.IT WAS SIR RICHARD'S VIEW FURTHERMORE THAT SUCH MEETINGS
WOULD NOT BE FREQUENT.IN HIS OPINION,THE VERY EXISTENCE OF THE
COWITTEE.TO WHICH CONFLICTS COULD BE REFERRED AS A LAST RESORT,WOULD
ACT AS AN INDUCEMENT WITHIN THE SUBORDINATE GROUPS TO FIND GENERALLY
ACCEPTABLE SOLUTIONS TO THEIR PROBLEMS,THE CPC WOULD BE CALLED UPON
TO EXPRESS AN OPINION ONLY IN CASES INVOLVING SERIOUS MATTERS OF POLICY
AND PRINCIPLE.IT I S PERHAPS SIGNIFICANT THAT SIR RICHARD REPEATEDLY
DESCRIBED THE CPC IN THIS CONTEXT AS"A COURT OF REFERENCE."HE CONFIRMED
THAT THE UK ATTACHED PARTICULAR IMPORTANCE TO THE ROLE WHICH THE
SEC RZTARY OF STATE COULD PLAY IN RESOLVING DIFFERENCES WITHIN THE USA
ADMINISTRATION HAMPERING EFFECTIVE TRIPARTITE CO-OPERATION.
6.WE WONDERED WHETHER THE NATO COUNTRIES,WITH THE POSSIBLE EXCEPTION
OF FRANCE,WOULD PROBABLY REGARD THE REVIVAL OF THE CPC AS A NATURAL
STEP INSOFAR AS ITS NUCLEAR FUNCTIONS WERE CONCERNED BUT MIGHT NOT
SO READILY UNDERSTAND THE EXTENSION OF ITS ACTIVITIES INTO THE NONNUCLEAR FIELDS.SIR RICHARD THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE MET IF AS WAS INTENDED
THE REVISED TERMS OF REF OF THE CPC REMAINED SECRET.
7.WE A S * © SIR RICHARD WHETHER THE UK HAD SUBMITTED ITS OWN COMMENTS
ON THE USA DRAFT AIDE MEMOIRE.SIR RICHARD REPLIED THAT THE UK HAD
BEEN IN CLOSE TOUCH WITH THE USA AUTHORITIES DURING THE DRAFTING OF THE
AIDE MEMOIRE.THE DOCUMENT,WHILE NOT STRICTLY SPEAKING A JOINT ONE,
}ftD IN FACT BEEN AGREED BY THE UK BEFORE BEING PRESENTED TO THE CAN*

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8HANS.THE COMMENTS OF THE CANADIAN AUTHORITIES WERE NOW AWAITED
BEFORE FURTHER PROGRESS COULD BE MADE.
8.BEF0RE TAK iNG LEAVE,WE INFORMED SIR RICHARD THAT WE HAD AN APPOINTMENT WITH THE FO FOR THE FOLLOWING DAY AND SOUGHT HIS ADVICE ON
WHETHER WE SHOULD ALSO SEE SOMEONE IN THE ATOMIC ENERGY AUTHORITY.
SIR RICHARD POINTED OUT THAT THE SUBJECT OF THE CPC HAD SO FAR BEEN
ALMOST ENTIRELY HANDLED BY HIS OWN MINISTRY AND HE DOUBTED WHETHER
AN APPROACH TO THE AEA WOULD BE PROFITABLE.THE PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY
OF THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE FOR THIS PROJECT I S PERHAPS AS GOOD AN
INDICATION AS ANY OF THE SCOPE WHICH UK AUTHORITIES INTEND TO CONFER
UPON THE CPC'S ACTIVITIES AND OF THE OBJECTIVES WHICH THEY ARE
PURSUING IN PROMOTING ITS RDVIVAL.

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