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STORAGE OF ATOMIC WEAPONS ON FRENCH TERRITORY
FOLLOWING FOR THE UNDER-SECRETARY
I CALLED ON MR SPAAK TO DISCUSS WITH HIM THE COMPLICATIONS ARISING
OUT OF THE DECISION TAKEN BY GENERAL DE GAULLE ABOUT THE STOCK*
PILING OF ATOMIC WARHEADS ON FRENCH TERRITORY.I TOLD MR SPAAK THAT
I WAS SPEAKING WITHOUT INSTRUCTIONS BUT THAT SINCE THIS DECISION
WAS OF CONSIDERABLE MOMENT FOR THE CDN AUTHORITIES AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME,I WISHED TO HAVE AS CLEAR A PICTURE AS POSSIBLE OF THE
SITUATION.
2.MR SPAAK REPLIED THAT HE HAD BEEN INFORMED OF THE GENERALS
DECISION BY GENERAL NORSTAD WHO HAD ASKED HIM NOT RPT NOT TO MENTION
IT TO ANYONE.ON ARRIVAL IN WASHDC HOWEVER TO ATTEND MR DULLES
FUNERAL SOME PRESS CORRESPONDENTS HAD ASKED HIM FOR HIS COMMENTS
ON GENERAL DE GAULLES DECISION.ON RETURN HERE,HE HAD FOUND OUT
THAT SEVERAL PERN REPS WERE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROBLEM.HE FELT HE
WAS IN A MOST UNCOMFORTABLE POSITION AND HIS FIRST INCLINATION
WAS TO RAISE THE ISSUE IN COUNCIL.BEFORE DOING THIS HE INTENDED
TO SPEAK TO THE FRENCH AND USA PERM REPS DURING THE NEXT DAY OR
TWO;HE MIGHT LATER ON SEE GENERAL DE GAULLE.
3.MR SPAAK WAS MILDLY CRITICAL OF GENERAL NORSTAD ON THIS AND
RELATED ISSUES.HE IS DISSATISFIED WITH THE WAY THE COUNCIL IS BEING
BY-PASSED IN THE BILATERAL NEGOTIATIONS ON ATOMIC MATTERS AND
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OF THE COUNCIL OVER THE USE .OF ATOMIC WEAPONS.AT ONE POINT DURING
THE CONVERSATION HE SAID THATMNORSTAD EST UN ETAT DANS LETAT".
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HE ADDED THAT THIS SHOULD NOT RPT NOT BE INTERPRETED TO MEAN THAT
HE WAS OPPOSED TO THE NUCLEARIZATION OF NATO FORCES,BUT
WHAT UPSET HIM WAS THAT THERE WAS NO RPT NO POLITICAL CONSUL*
TATION OVER THE DECISIONS TAKEN BY THE MILITARY.I ENQUIRED WHETHER
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NO RPT NO ATOMIC WARHEADS WERE AVAILABLE FROM* FRENCH TERRITORY'--*"*
HE HAD TO RE-DEPLOY SOME OF THE SQUADRONS NOW STATIONED IN*FRANCE
ON* WEST GERMAN AIR FIELDS.THIS,HOWEVER,WAS A MAKESHIFT ARRANGEMENT
AND IN DUE COURSE,IF GENERAL DE GAULLE WAS TO ABIDE BY HIS PRESENT'
DECISION,AMERICAN SQUADRONS ON FRENCH TERRITORY WOULD HAVE TO _£"?• '
RE-DEPLOYED AND**IN DUE COURSE SOME OF THEM MAYHAVE^TO BE SENT

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5.DURING THE CONVERSATION I POINTED OUT THAT THE STAND TAKEN BY
GENERAL DE GAULLE HAD SERIOUS IMPLICATIONS FOR THE CDN SQUADRONS
NOW ON FRENCH SOIL,PARTICULARLY AT A TIME WHEN THE CDN GOVT WAS
FACED WITH THE DECISION OF HAVING TO CONSIDER THE RE-EQUIPMENT
OF THE AIR DIVISION.I WAS ALSO CONCERNED LEST THE GENERALS DECISION*
GOT TO BE KNOWN PUBLICLY.LASTLY I THOUGHT THAT WE SHOULD PLAY FOR
TIME AND TRY TO PERSUADE ALL CONCERNED I.E.SACEUR,THE FRENCH AND
USA AUTHORITIES THAT NO RPT NO ACTION BE TAKEN THAT WOULD AUTO=&gt;
MATICALLY BREAK THE STORY.
6.WE THEN WENT ON TO DISCUSS MORE GENERALLY THE POSITION OF THE
FRENCH GOVT ON ATOMIC WEAPONS.I SAID THAT I WAS NOW FAIRLY CLEAR
IN MY MIND THAT WHATEVER THE ARRANGEMENTS NOW ARRIVED AT BETWEEN- *
WASHDC AND HOST COUNTRIES,IN THE END,A POLITICAL DECISION
WOULD HAVE TO BE TAKEN BY THE HOST COUNTRY TO AUTHORIZE ANY FORCE
STATIONED ON ITS TERRITORY TO USE ATOMIC WARHEADS.MR SPAAK AGREED
WITH THIS WITH THE FOLLOWING DISTINCTION?IN HIS VIEW IN CASE OF
AN ALL-OUT ATOMIC ATTACK,THE FORCES.OF RETALIATION SHOULD ENTER
INTO PLAY IMMEDIATELY AND POLITICAL CONSULTATION IF A&gt;JY WOULD BE
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REDUCED TO A MINIMUM.HIS MAIN CONCERN WAS THAT A STITUATION COULD
DEVELOP WHEN A DECISION WOULD HAVE TO B£ TAKEN AS TO WHETHER OR
NOT RPT NOT ATOMIC WEAPONS SHOULD BE USED AGAINST SOVIET CONVENTIONAL FORCES.IN THIS INSTANCE HE FELT STRONGLY THAT THE
ALLIANCE SHOULD BE CONSULTED AND HE ALSO BELIEVED THAT THERE WOULD
BE TIME FOR SUCH CONSULTATION.HERE AGAIN/HOWEVER,THE ROLE OF THE
COUNCIL WAS UNCLEAR AND MORE THOUGHT WOULD HAVE TO BE GIVEN TO THE
PROBLEM.
7.HE ASKED ME IF I HAD ANY SUGGESTIONS TO MAKE.I REPLIED THAT
GENERALLY IT SEEMED TO ME THAT THE CDN AUTHORITIES,WHILE NOT RPT
NOT WISHING TO PARALI2E THE SUPREME ALLIED COMMANDER IN USING ATOMIC
RETALIATORY CAPABILITY AT HIS COMMAND IN THE EVENT OF AN ALL-OUT
ATTACK,WOULD CERTAINLY INSIST THAT IN ANY OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES
THEY BE CONSULTED.IF TIME PERMITTED.SPEAKING PERSONALLY I FEARED
THAT THE ATOMIC ISOLATION IN WHICH FRANCE WAS PLACING HERSELF
COULD BE VERY UNHEALTHY FOR THE ALLIANCE IN THE LONG RUN.TIME MAY,
THEREFORE.BE RUNNING OUT WHEN A COMPROMISE MIGHT STILL BE
POSSIBLE.MR SPAAK FEARED THAT THE FRENCH WOULD NOT RPT NOT ACCEPT
ANY COMPROMISE AT THIS TIME THAT WAS NOT RPT NOT BASED ON JOINT
.CONTROL OF THE ATOMIC WARHEADS STOCKPILED IN FRANCE,AND THAT
• THEY REALLY WISHED TO HAVE A SEPARATE KEY AND A NATIONAL KEYHOLE
TO THE CUPBOARD.I REPLIED THAT I WOULD NOT RPT NOT BE TOO UPSET
\ BY SUCH A PROPOSITION IF IN TURN SOME ASSURANCES COULD BE OBTAINED
•&gt;FROM GENERAL DE GAULLE THAT HE WOULD PROVE MORE CO-OPERATIVE

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ROUGHLY WHERE THE UK WAS; TWO YEARS AGO,RATHER THAN WHERE THE USA
WAS 14 YEARS AGO.THEY THINK THAT THEY ARE NOT RPT NOT FAR FROM
SOLVING THE REMAINING PROBLEMS,MOSTLY IN THE ENGINEERING FIELD.
WHEN THEY HAVE SET OFF THIS DEVICE,IT MAY REASONABLY 3E ASSUMED
THAT THE FRENCH WILL SEEK TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE USA 0-1 ARRANGEMENTS
IN THE NUCLEAR FIELD ROUGHLY COMPARABLE TO THOSE! ENJO/EDJ3Y THE UK.
9.MR SPAAK WHO IS SERIOUSLY CONCERNED OVER THE WHOLE ''ROBLEM WOULD
WELCOME VIEWS FROM US AND I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.
PERSONALLY I DO NOT RPT NOT THINK I COULD ADD MUCH TO THE VIEWS
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