https://declassified.library.utoronto.ca/files/original/04e308aab754f31bae64afc6117c94aa.pdf aea72ee2e188c8c848496ea866066d55 PDF Text Text 'ill ^bJi/f-AZ-fL-^6 FM BRU APR2S/63 SECRET TO EXTERNAL 2 8 5 . PRIORITY ffl INFO NATOPARIS EMBPARIS LDN WASHDC BONN-ROME HAGUE DISARM TT CCOS FM ,OTT , BAG COPEN .ATHENS OSLO LISBON ANKARA MOSCOW-FM LDN 10 Vl NATO DEFENCE PLANNING AND,OTT MINISTERIAL MTG • ROTHSCHILD, SPAAKS CHEF DE CABINET,WHO WILL ACCOMPANY HIS MINISTER T O / OTT,AND I S HIS CLOSEST ADVISER,TOLD ME THAT IN ADDITION BELGIAN t r Q ^ ^ t DEL WILL CONSIST OF FOLLOW ING I SEGERS, MINISTER OF NATIONAL DEFENCE,^ COL VIVARIO, CHEF DE CABINET OF SEG£RS|GEN DE C-UMONT>PRESIDENT CHIEFS • OF STAFF CTTEEtDE STAERCKE,BELGIAN PERMREP3PAREIANS DE MORCHOVEN, HEAD. OF FOREIGN MINISTRY WESTERN ORGANIZATIONS SECT ION jLEJEUNE OF., . SPAAKS.CABINETjAND EITHER VAN DEN BOSCH,SECGEN-ON FOREIGN MINISTRY, 1 OR HOLVOET, FOREIGN MINISTRY DIRGEN OF POLIT:ICAL ;AFFAIRS;., \* • : :;. 2.BELGIANS STILL STRONGLY SUPPORT CONCEPT ON TWO NUCLEAR FORCES FOR : NATOgMLF AND IANC.THEY BELIEVE THIS IS A SOUND APPROACH; TO SOLITTION OF NATO NUCLEAR PROBLEMS AND WILL CONTRIBUTE BOTH TO CONTAINING OF' , FRENCH AMBITIONS AND TO COUNTERING PRESSURE FROM GERMANY FOR NUCLAR WEAPONS.BELGIAN SUPPORT FOR THESE PROPOSALS WAS ESSENTIALLY POLITICAL. ON MILITARY GROUNDS ALONE,SPAAK WOULD BE CONTENT WITH .EXISTING ARR- ' ANGEM EN TS .NUCLEAR FORCE CONCEPT HAD,HOWEVER, COME TO BE THE FOCUS OF THE WILL OF MAJORITY OF EUROPEANS TO ACHIEVE COHESION WITHIN EUROPE AND PARTNERSHIP WITH USA OBJECTIVES WHICH HAD BEEN FRUSTRATED BY FRENCH. IN THIS RESPECT BELGIANS WERE QUOTE -IN, A-FIGHTING MOOD UNQUOTE* WHILE IT WAS CLEAR THAT BELGIANS DID. NOT RPT.NOT SHARE MISGIVINGS OF ITALXANSCROME TEL204 APR19)AND WHILE ROTHSCHILD CATEGORICALLY STATED THAT BELGIANS DID NOT RPT NOT ACCEPT KISSINGER THESIS,NONETHELESS,IT WAS CLEAR THAT THEY DO NOT RPT NOT BELIEVE THAT ADVANTAGES THEY SEE IN CONCEPT CAN BE REALIZED UNLESS AMERICANS ARE PREPARED TO GO SOME WAY TOWARD ALLOWING THEIR ALLIES A VOICE IN NUCLEAR STRATEGY.THIS POINT SPAAK MADE HERE PUBLICLY REC£NTLYC0URTELv23?.MAR26>.WHILE . / / • . o2 ' 0916 00091 \ m �PAGE TWO 2 8 9 ; ' ' ' BELGIANS MAY NOT RPT NOT PRESS T H I S POINT IN OTT IN THIS PARTICULAR WAY,IT I S THEIR 5 INTENTION TO PUT GREAT STRESS ON NEED FOR FULLER CONSULTATION*THIS COULD OPEN THE DOOR TO GREATER PARTICIPATION IN ' FORMATION OF POLICY.I EXPECT WHEN THEY RECEIVE DE STAECKES REPORT OF ~ RESTD SESSION OF NATO COUNCIL OF APR24 REPORTED IN NATOPARIS TEL8S0" OF THAT DATE THEY WILL BE MORE DETERMINED THAN EVER TO EMPHASIZE NEED' FOR BETTER CONSULTATION. 3,ROTHSCHILD WAS MORE OPTIMISTIC THAN CAGIATTI OF ITALIAN MFA ON CHANCES FOR SOME RESPONSE BY AMERICANS TO EUROPEAN CONCERNS IN THIS AREA.HE FEELS AMERICANS COULD BE,AND INDEED MUST BE CONVINED OF THE NEED TO DO SO.AS AN ASIDE ROTHSCHILD SAID THAT I T WAS EASIER TO TALK WITH AMERICANS ON THIS ISSUE THAN WITH THE FRENCHoXNDEED BELGIANS HAD NO RPT NO USEFUL DIALOGUE WITH FRENCH ON ANY MAJOR ISSUE. :.-'.. '•' : • ' ; 4.ROTHSCHILD TOOK PAINS TO EMPHASIZE THAT BELGIAN PHILOSOPHY I S THAT QUESTIONS OF CONDUCT OF NUCLEAR WAR WERE NOW LARGELY XRRELEVENT. SUCH QUESTIONS FOR EXAMPLE AS TO WHAT USE F104G AIRCRAFT WOULD BE PUT IN A NUCLEAR WAR-A LIVELY ISSUE HERE AT THE MOMENT-WERE EMPTY BECAUSE AIRCRAFT WOULD BE USELSS IF NUCLEAR WAR BROKE OUT .HERE ROTHSCHILDCITED ^QUQTE SENILITE UNQUOTE OF MILITARY THINKING REFLECTED IN DE GAULLES APRI9 BROADCAST.WHAT WAS OF PRIMARY IMPORTANCE TODAY,ROTHSCHILD EMPHASIZED,WAS NOT RPT NOT CONTROL OF OPERATION OF NUCLEAR FORCES,BUT AVOIDANCE OF NUCLEAR WAR. 4.WE GATHERED THAT SPAAK MAY NOT RPT NOT RAISE H I S SECOND POINT ABOUT NEED TO SHARE IN BENEFITS OF NUCLEAR RESEARCH'BECAUSE ROTHSCHILD I S TRYING TO PERSUADE HIM THAT SUCH BENEFITS ARE ACCRUING TO EUROPEAN MEMBERS'OF ALLIANCE THROUGH EURATOM* SeAS TO QUESTION-OF POLITICAL CONTENT OF OTT MTG,A POINT RAISED IN WASHDC T E L 1 I 7 3 APR23,YGU WILL GATHER FROM ABOVE THAT ROTHSCHILD SEES SUFFICIENT POLITICAL CONTENT ARISING INEVITABLY'" FROM BROADEN ING* OF »» .3 000917 �PAGE THREE 289 DISCUSSION OF THE TWO NUCLEAR FORCES. 7.ROTHSCHILD DID NOT RPT NOT THINK THAT AGREEMENT TO ESTABLISH NUCLEAR FORCES WOULD AGGRAVATE PROBLEM OF CONVENTIONAL FORCES. HE THOUGH MACNAMARA HAD MISREPRESENTED NATOS CONVENTIONAL FORCES REQUIREMENT BECAUSE MEMBERS WERE BEING ASKED AFTER ALL TO DO NO RPT NO MORE THAN TO BRING THEIR CONVENTIONAL FORCE STRENGTH UP TO PREVIOUSLY AGREED GOALS. 8.1 RAISED QUESTION WHETHER BELGIAN APPROACH WITH ITS STRESS ON CONSULTATION AND AVOIDANCE OF NUCLEAR WAR COULD NOT RPT NOT BE USED TO GIVE A SUBSTANTIAL PEACEFUL CONTENT TO NATO MTG. I SPECULATED ON DANGER THAT A NATO MTG THAT CONCERNED ITSELF TOO NARROWLY WITH ESTABLISHMENT,CONTROL AND OPERATION OF A NEW SYSTEM OF NUCLEAR WEAPONRY WOULD BE CONSTRUED OR MISCONSTRUED AS AGGRESSIVE AND SO RUN COUNTER TO SLIGHTLY IMPROVED ATMOSPHERE ACHIEVED BY PAPAL ENCYCLICAL AND MINOR ADVANCES IN NUCLEAR TEST DISCUSSIONS AND AGREEMENT TO ESTABLISH DIRECT COMMUNICATION BETWEEN WASHDC AND MOSCOW. 9.AS TO OTHER MATTERS, ROTHSCHILD THOUGHT THAT MIDEAST GAVE GREATEST CAUSE FOR CONCERN AT PRESENT AND HE FELT SURE THAT IT WOULD BE RAISED IN OTT, IF BY NO RPT NO ONE ELSE, AT LEAST BY TURKS. BELGIANS TRADITIONALLY DO NOT RPT NOT SAY MUCH ABOUT MIDEAST DEVELOPMENTS,BUT ROTHSCHILD SAID HE PERSONALLY THOUGHT SITUATION DANGEROUS AND THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY THAT ISRAELIS MIGHT FIND IT NECESSARY TO LAUNCH PREVENTIVE WAR BEFORE HOSTILE COALITION GAINED STRENGTH AND UNITY.HE SAID THAT THERE HAD BEEN NO RPT NO RECENT INDICATION OF ANY INTERVENTION OR SHOW OF INTEREST BY UAR IN CONGO PIERCE 000918 � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CDNW03561 Title A name given to the resource CDNW03561 Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived "NATO - Nuclear weapons - Policy - NATO long term planning," RG25-A-3-b, vol 5960, file 50219-AL-2-40, part 8-2, Library and Archives Canada (LAC). 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