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NATO DEFENCE PLANNING-VISIT OF SECGEN TO WASHDC

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STIKKER GAVE ME A BRIEFING TODAY ON THE RESULTS OF HIS'WASHpC
TALKS,HE WAS SATISFIED THAT HE HAD MANAGED TO GO SOKE WAY T O T R D S "
REACHING AGREEMENT ON A PLAN CF WORK FOR NATO FOR THE REST fepYEAR IN THE FIELD OF NATO DEFENCE PLANNING.THIS PLAN WILL COVER
(A)TARGET DATES FOR DECISIONS EMANATING FROM THE NASSAU AGREEMENT;
(B)OTHER ASPECTS OF NATO DEFENCE PLANNING,INCLUDING BALANCE
BETWEEN CONVENTIONAL AND NUCLEAR WEAPONS, MENTIONED BY MACNAMARA IN
H I S STATEMENT AT THE DEC MINISTERIAL MTG?ANDCOFURTHER ARRANGEMENTS
FOR SHARING BY USA OF INFO ON TARGETTING OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
2.STIKKER SAID THAT THE MOST USEFUL TALKS HAD TAKEN PLACE DURING
H I S FLIGHT WITH MACNAMARA FROM #ASHDC TO OMAHA,I GATHER GILPATRICK,
MAXWELL TAYLOR,NITZE AND MCGEORGE BUNDY HAD ALSO BEEN PRESENT.
3.0N THE NASSAU AGREEMENT,STIKKER HAD PUT TO MACNAMARA THE DESIRABILITY
OF TRYING FIRST TO CONCENTRATE ON CLARIFYING PARA6 SO THAT SOME
BASIS OF COOPERATION COULD BE ESTABLISHED BETWEEN USA AND I T S

ALLIES

WITH REGARD TO EXISTING NUCLEAR DELIVERY SYSTEMS BEFORE. ATTEMPTING
TO SOLVE THE MORE FAR-REACHING PROBLEMS OF A MULTILATERAL MIX-MANNED
FORCE.WITH THIS IN VIEW STIKKER HAD SUGGESTED THAT AS A TARGET DATE
THE ALLIANCE SHOULD AIM AT TAKING WHATEVER DECISIONS MAY BE NECESSARY IN REGARD TO A PARAS FORCE BY THE TIME OF THE OTT MTG.AT THE
SAME TIME IT WOULD BE AGREED THAT DECISIONS ON THE MULTILATERAL
MIX-MANNED FORCE WOULD BE HELD OVER UNTIL THE DEC MINISTERIAL MTG.
STIKKER SAID THAT- MACNAMARA HAD READILY AGREED BUT THAT THE STATE
DEPT SEEMED HESITANT.IN CONSEQUENCE STIKKER WAS TOLD THAT MACNAMARA
AND RUSK WOULD DISCUSS HIS PROPOSAL WITH THE PRESIDENT MAR9.STIKKER
SAID -HE HAD NOW BEEN INFORMED USA .AUTHORITIES AGREED WITH HIS TARGET
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DATES AND HOPED TO BE IN A POSITION TO TAKE DECISIONS ON A NATO
NUCLEAR FORCE UNDER PARA6 AI THE MAY MINISTERIAL MTG IN
OTT AND ON THE MULTILATERAL MIX-MANNED FORCE AT THE DEC MINISTERIAL
MTG. (COLERIDGE HAS SINCE INFORMED ME THAT SECGEN IS CONSEQUENTLY
ASSUMING DEFENCE MINISTERS WILL WISH TO ATTEND OTT MTG AND WILL
SHORTLY PROPOSE THIS TO COUNCIL).
4, AS TO THE PLAN CF WORK TO COVER OTHER ASPECTS OF NATO DEFENCE
PLANNING, STIKKER HAD PUT IT TO MACNAMARA THAT OTHER ASPECTS OF
NATO DEFENCE PLANNING HAD BECOME CONFUSED BECAUSE TOO MUCH' EMPHASIS
HAD BEEN PLACED BY USA AND UK ON THE NASSAU AGREEMENT.HE URGED
THAT THE ALLIANCE SHOULD TAKE UP IN A CONSECUTIVE AND ORDERED WAY
THE PROBLEM OF HOW BEST TO IMPLEMENT A FORWARD STRATEGY IN EUROPE,
INCLUDING THE PROBLEM OF BALANCE BETWEEN NUCLEAR AND CONVENTIONAL
FORCES.HE ALSO ARGUED THAT THE QUESTION OF THE GAP BETWEEN MILITARY
REQUIREMENTS AND NATIONAL CONTRIBUTIONS SHOULD NOT RPT NOT BE
DEALT WITH ON THE BASIS OF SOME ROUGH AND READY FORMULA SUCH AS
THE OVERALL INCREASE OF DEFENCE EXPENDITURES OF 20 PERCENT SUGGESTED BY MACNAMARA AT THE DEC MINISTERIAL MTG BUT THAT ANY BUDGETARY
CONCLUSIONS OF THIS SORT SHOULD FLOW FROM AN ORDERED STUDY OF WHAT
WAS NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT A FORWARD STRATEGY IN EUROPE,AS A RESULT
GOVTS WOULD BE FACED WITH CLEAR ALTERNATIVES EITHER TO(A)SPEND MORE
MONEY TO CLOSE THE GAP? ORC B) CHANGE THE FORWARD STRATEGY; OR(C)
INCREASE RELIANCE ON NUCLEAR OVER CONVENTIONAL WEAPONS.
5.STIKKER SAID THAT HE HAD PREPARED A DRAFT OF A PAPER WHICH MIGHT
SERVE AS BASIS FOR SUCH A STUDY.(THIS IS THE PAPER TO WHICH I
REFERRED IN MYTEL 31 JAN7).STIKKER SAID THAT NEITHER MACNAMARA
NOR RPT NOR ANY OF THE OTHER SENIOR OFFICIALS HE SPOKE TO HAD SEEN
A COPY OF THE PAPER.HOWEVER AFTER MACNAMARA HAD STUDIED IT HE INDICATED HE WAS WILLING TO ACCEPT IT AS A BASIS FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION BY THE COUNCIL BUT BEFORE DOING SO HE WOULD CONSULT THE STATE
DEPT AND OTHER OFFICIALS AND PERHAPS SUGGEST SOME MODIFICATIONS.
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6. STIKKER. SAID THAT IN THE COURSE OF THIS DISCUSSION HE HAD POINTED
OUT THAT WHAT MIGHT BE DECIDED IN CONSEQUENCE OF THE NASSAU AGREEMENT WOULD OBVIOUSLY HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL EFFECT ON THE MRBM PROBLEM.
THE MRBM REQUIREMENT AS SUBMITTED BY SACEUR FOLLOWING UP THE DECISION
OF HEADS OF GOVTS OF 1957 AMOUNTED TO 450 ADDITIONAL LAND-BASED
MISSILES.STIKKER RECALLED THAT THE SEABORNE FORCE UNDER PARAS7 AND 8
OF THE NASSAU AGREEMENT WAS SUPPOSED TO PRODUCE ABOUT 200 MISSILES
WHILE THE USA AND UK POLARIS SUBMARINES WOULD PRODUCE ALMOST THAT
NUMBER ALSO. IN ADDITION THE CONTRIBUTION OF UK BOMBER COMMAND HAD
TO BE RECKONED TOWARDS MTG SACEURS REQUIREMENT.AS FOR LAND-BASED
MRBMS MACNAMARA INDICATED THAT IN PRINCIPLE USA ADMIN DID NOT RPT
NOT OBJECT TO PERSHINGS BEING USED SINCE THEY HAD A LIMITED RANGE
CF ABOUT 400 MILES AND COULD THEREFORE NOT RPT NOT BE USED AGAINST
STRATEGIC TARGETS IN USSR.THUS THE ELEMENTS FOR A SOLUTION OF THE
MRBM PROBLEM SEEMED TO BE EMERGING.
7.0N TARGETTING, STIKKER EMPHASIZED TO MACNAMARA THAT MUCH OF THE
DISSATISFACTION IN EUROPE ABOUT PRESENT ARRANGEMENTS FOR CONTROLLING
OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS BY USA STEMMED FROM THE FACT THAT SO LITTLE
WAS KNOWN ESPECIALLY BY RESPONSIBLE MINISTERS ABOUT TARGETS AND
INTENDED USE OF THE DELIVERY SYSTEMS AVAILABLE TO FORCES ASSIGNED
TO NATO.STIKKER HAD TOLD MACNAMARA THAT IN THIS RESPECT THE CABAL
BRIEFING HAD NOT RPT NOT PROVED SATISFACTORY AS IT HAD BEEN TOO
THEORETICAL.HE SAID MINISTERS HAVING TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IN PARLIAMENT MUST KNOW THE PURPOSE FOR -WHICH DELIVERS SYSTEMS ASSIGNED TO
NATO WERE TO BE USED.THIS WOULD NOT RPT NOT NECESSARILY INVOLVE TOO
DETAILED A KNOWLEDGE BUT DID MEAN A GRASP OF THE BASIC PRINCIPLES
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AND ARRANGEMENTS INVOLVED SO THAT IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY

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MINISTERS MIGHT KNOW WHAT PRECISELY THEY WERE AUTHORIZING.STIKKER
SAID HE HAD SPOKEN TO THE PRESIDENT ABOUT THIS NEED FOR FURTHER INFO
ABOUT TARGETTING AND THAT THE PRESIDENT WAS GOING TO CONSULT MCCONE
AND MACNAMARA ABOUT WHAT FURTHER ACTION MIGHT BE TAKEN.STIKKER SAID
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THAT OF COURSE ARRANGEMENTS ABOUT SHARING INFO ON TARGETTING WAS
CF PARTICULAR RELEVANCE TO WHAT MIGHT BE WORKED OUT BY WAY OF
CONTROL ARRANGEMENTS UNDER PARA6 OF THE NAUSSAU AGREEMENT.
8.ALL IN ALL STIKKER SEEMS TO BE SATISFIED THAT HE HAS MADE SOME
PRMGRESS AS A RESULT OF HIS wASHDC MTG PARTICULARLY THROUGH HAVING
DIRECT ACCESS TO MACNAMARA AND SENIOR PENTAGON OFFICIALS AND IT
REMAINS TO BE SEEN HOW MUCH OF THE UNDERSTANDINGS HE WAS ABLE TO
REACH WITH MACNAMARA WILL BE TRANSLATED INTO INSTRUCTIONS TO USA
DEL IN NATO.
9. AS STIKKER ASKED ME TO TREAT WHAT HE TOLD ME WITH PARTICULAR
CARE I HAVE MARKED THIS MSG FOR CDN EYES ONLY
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