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Unrevised Hansard,
December 20. 1960,
pp. 970-1

NATIONAL DEFENCE
NATO—SUCJraSTED_ POOL OF_ NUCLEAR WEAPONS

On the orders of the day:
Hen. Paul Hellyer (Trinity): I should like
to pose a question to the Minister of National Defence. Will the minister give us as
much information as possible about the
United States proposal to equip the NATO
forces with nuclear weapons? I refer to the
pool arrangement.
Hon. D. S. Harkness (Minister of National
Deience): I cannot give any more information than has already been given by the
Secretary of State for External Affairs and
that which has appeared in newspaper
accounts, I believe, of the NATO meetings.
As the Secretary of State for External Affairs
pointed out, the Americans put this proposal
forward as a suggested concept. No great
details in connection with the matter were
gone into.
Mr. Hellyer: I have a supplementary question. Can the minister say • whether storage
depots are already being built for the nuclear
warheads that the Canadian forces expect to
use, as reported by Peter Newman .in the
current issue of Maclean's?
Mr. Harkness: Under the infrastructure
aVrangement of NATO, certain storages are
being constructed. Some of these storages are
in areas where the Canadian forces are
likely to operate or close to where they are
stationed at the present time. However, these
storages, of course, are for the use of NATO
troops generally, as the term infrastructure
really implies, and it is the same kind of
arrangement as the various types of construction carried on by NATO under infrastructure have been more or less from the
beginning.
Mr. Hellyer: I have a further supplementary
question, Mr. Speaker. In view of Canada's
participation in these storage depots under
infrastructure, and Canada's acquisition of
vehicles for the deliverance of nuclear
weapons, has the decision been made for
Canada to obtain the warheads necessary to
make them effective?
Mr. Harkness: The answer is no.
Hon. L. B. Pearson (Leader of the
Opposition): Mr. Speaker, could I ask the
minister whether he still believes it would
be absurd for the Canadian forces not to use
nuclear weapons?

Mr. Speaker: I think the Leader of the
Opposition's question is largely a contro*
versial one and is likely to promote a discussion which would be inappropriate. However, if the minister wishes to accept the
question he may do so.
Mr. Harkness: Mr. Speaker, I think I could
perhaps""just point out that the Leader of the
Opposition appears to be attempting to put
words in my mouth, to which I object most
strongly.
•Mr. Pearson: Mr. Speaker, may I ask the
minister, does he deny the statement attributed to him by the press on this matter when
he was in Paris earlier?
Mr. Harkness: Mr. Speaker, I do not know
to what statement the Leader of the Opposition refers, but I certainly never said anything about nuclear weapons being absurd
from any point of view.
[Later.]
Mr. Pearson: On a question of privilege, the
Minister of National Defence stated a few
minutes ago that I had misquoted him in the
course of a question 1 asked. In justice to the
minister and the house 1 should like to read
the exact quotation which I was using. It was
from a Southam news service report of an
interview by Charles King, and it appeared in
the Ottawa Citizen on November 2. The minister is reported as saying:
"If we are to have a fully effective force, our
people have to have nuclear arms. This is the
only position that a reasonable man can take."
"Not having nuclear arms is completely stupid."

Mr. Harkness: The Leader of the Opposition started putting into my mouth words
about nuclear arms, and my having said
something about their not being used by
Canada as being absurd, and I quite properly
pointed out that I had never said anything
along those lines. Now he is trying to cover
up the mistake he made by quoting something else. I should just like to say in connection with that matter that Mr. King and
I had quite a serious difference of opinion
about what I said on that occasion, something
that is not unknown as far as things along
that line are concerned. Certainly I felt very
strongly I had not made a statement along
those lines. Mr. King thought that I had.
That was the situation. I would point out that
in any event a statement of that kind is
not borne out by any other statement I have
made and was not reported by any other
newspaper reporter and since I got back to
Canada, 1 have made it clear that it does
not represent my thinking on this matter.

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