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Public interest
in the United States has been
focused more sharply on the country's
new defence strategy
in the past two weeks than~
any time since the new
Administration
took office.
On the domestic political
front Mr. Stevenson and Vice President
Nixon debated
the merits of the "new look"; within the Administration
there were evidences of disagreement
between Admiral
Radford, the Chairman of the Chiefs of Staff,
and General
Ridgway, the Army Chief of Staff,
on the role assigned
to the Army under the new strategy;
last but by no means
least the international
implications
of the new strategy
were underlined
by Mr. Pearson's
timely remarks to the
National Press Club in Washington on March 15. Mr.
Dulles,
who, because of the demands on his time, has not
been in Washington for any length of time in the past
two months, was therefore
faced at his press conference
on March 16 with a number of searching
questions
on the~
new defence strategy
of the United States.
You will
~
remember that it was Mr. Dulles speaking on behalf of
the President
and the Administration,
who described
for
the public's
benefit
the principles
underlying
the new
defence strategy
in his address to the Council on Foreign
Relations
in New York on January 12. Mr. Dulles'
answers
to the questions
asked at the press conference
(copies of
the transcript
of which are attached)
taken together
with
his article
in the forthcoming
issue of Foreign Affairs
(our despatch No. 503 of March 18) go a long way towards
clarifying
the Secretary's
remarks of January 12 and
might even be considered
to restate
the policy outlined
by Mr. Dulles at that time.
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While we do not wish in this l·etter simply to
repeat the words of Mr. Dulles which are contained in
the attached
transcript,
we do think that more than usual
attention
should be devoted to this press conference.
From what I .ir. Pearson told us of his private
conversations
with Mr. Dulles last week it seems that Mr. Dulles made
many of the points at this press conference whi~h he
made in those talks.
We believe that it might also be
useful to relate
the views of Mr. Dulles·as
revealed
in
the attached transcript
to the comments which we made
on the new United States strategy
in our despatch under
reference.
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Much of the domestic criticism
which has been
made of the "new look" has centered on the apparent
decision
of the Administration,
as revealed
in Mr. Dulles
speech of January 12, to depend to a larger
extent on
the massive retaliatory
power of the United States and
less on the traditional
method of meeting aggression
on
the ground where it occurs.
It seems to us that in his
most recent reply to questions
from the press,
Mr.
Dulles has shifted
his emphasis, if not his ground.
He
asserted
that he had not meant to suggest in his January 12
tspeech that the United States would in every circumstance
/retaliate
instantly
with its massive retaliatory
power,
i.e. atomic and thermonuclear
weapons, but that what
the United States had to build up was its capacity
to
retaliate
instantly.
The questi9n
of whether or not
the United States chose to use that capacity
was a
matter,
he said, which would have to be dealt with in
accordance with the facts of each situation.
While
Mr. Dulles'
analysis
of what he meant to convey in his
earlier
speech is valid,
if one looks closely
at the
text of that speech, he must certainly
be aware that it
was not unreasonable
that those who did not have access
to his innermost thoughts might miss this fine distinction.
With this latest
explanation
of the point a major element
of the United States "new look" assumes much less novel
proportions.
According to Mr. Dulles,
the Administration
is simply determined
to keep United States defence capacity
in constant
readiness
so that if it is necessary
to meet
major aggression
the United States will not require
two
or three years to get ready to retaliate.
This is a
reasonable
decision
for the Administration
to take since
in fact on two occasions
the United States has been
unprepared
to shoulder its responsibility
immediately
in
the face of major world conflicts;
but when explained
in these terms it seems to be a much less startling
decision
than Mr. Dulles'
earlier
speech would have
led observers
to believe had been made by the Administration.
If observers
are still
left with some doubt in
their minds on the question made famous by the New Yorker,
"which paper do you read", !',tr. Dulles excuses himself
from further
clarification
again by the eminently reasonable argument that one should not tell the enemy in
advance exactly where, how and when one plans to retaliate.

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Mr. Dulles did go on to assure his questioners
that the new United States strategy
was not confined in
the event of an act of aggression
to the two channels
of an all-out
war or no resistance
at all.
He said that
in indicating
that there would be less emphasis. on local
defence power, the Administration
had simply made clear
its intention
not to be forced to meet aggression
at
the particular
place and by the particular
means which
the aggressor
selected.
There were areas of importance
to the aggressor--which
were not necessarily
either
the
front line of aggression
or the capitals
of Peking or
Moscow~~where United States retaliation
might be effective.
What Mr. Dulles seems to be saying indirectly
is what
Admiral Radford referred
to in our recent meeting of
consultation
as the "deep tactical
offensive"
use of
United States atomic weapons (c.f.
para. 35 of our report)
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his terms to
mean the use of new weapons in a fashion which was something short of strategic
bombing and something more than
tactical
bombing in front of one's own troops.
We would
surmise that what is in the minds of both Mr. Dulles
and Admiral Radford is the sober realization
that
United States ground troops (and possibly
even the
ground troops of all the Western allies)
can never match
the potential
enemy, Russian or Chinese, in numbers
and that it is fatal
therefore
to plan to meet the
potential
enemy man for man on the ground.
The United
States aim seems to be to convince its potential
enemies
that their commitment of ground forces in any act of
aggression
will not necessarily
lead to a United States
response in kind.
Mr. Dulles freely
admitted the
element of bluff in this strategy
(although,
of course,
he does not use that word) when he told his questioners
that the capacity
to retaliate
is in itself
the great
deterrent
to aggress~on.
"1 believe that the original
Korean attack would not have occurred if it had not
been assumed either
that we would not react at all or
if we did react would react only at the places and by
the means that the aggressors
chose."

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5.
Another set of questions
to 1~1r. Dulles were
directly
related
by the questioners
to Mr. Pearson's
speech of March 15, and concerned United States
consultation
with its allies
before a decision
was taken to
retaliate
in any particular
circumstance.
Mr. Dulles
replied
in forthright
terms that there would certainly
be consultation
in most of the cases that he could
conceive of, for it was impli~it
in the security
system
which has been built up among the Western allies
that
it operates
only with the consent and acquiescence
of all
the partners
who have helped to provide the facilities
"which create a sort of international
police system".
We understood
from Mr. Pearson that Mr. Dulles assured
him privately
that in his own mind a most important
element of the United States capacity
to retaliate
was
the whole-hearted
co-operation
of the allies
of the United
States and especially
of those upon whose territory
important
United States bases existed.
I think we can
be certain
that in Mr. Dulles mind at least,
and
probably too in the mind of the President,
there is no
lack of understanding
ef tne need fo~0 ~~Il§tant and
intimate
consultation/ijith
~t~n~~~~r ti!!I§s on matters
which concern the possible
use of atomic weapons and
the consequent likelihood
of the outbreak of a major
war.

6.

Finally Mr. Dulles dealt directly
and in the
circumstances,
we believe,
quite courageously,
with
questions
concerning
the President's
ability
to_order
instant
retaliation
without prior consultation
with
Congress.
At his press conference
on March 17- the President himself said that he had no intention
of violating
the Constitution
in any action he might have to take
with respect
to the outbreak of war and that he thought
"it was implicit
in the Constitution
that the President
had to act against
sudden unexpected
aggression"
(and
by inference
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on the
issue of the limitations
on the President's
power is
very much in the minds of Congress, Mr. Dulles'
replies
on this occasion can only be taken as stemming from
a strongly
held conviction
on the part of the Administration.
Mr. Dulles gave it as his opinion that in
any instance
of aggression
against members of NATOor
against
allies
covered by the Rio Pact the President
would have the authority
to order instant
retaliation
even though in every circumstance
he might not choie to
exercise
that authority
without consulting
Congress.
Mr. Dulles admitted that the Indo-China situation
would
not be covered by French membership in NATO, but he
said that he did not wish to imply that the United States
should do nothing if the Chinese Communists with regular
forces should cross the frontier
into Indo-China.
He
was of the further
opinion that the President
did not
have similar
discretion
in situations
which would be
covered only by the United Nations Charters.
He refused
to be drawn into a discussion
of what he called the "twilight zonen of the President's
power under the Constitution
as Commander-in-Chief
to take military
action without
a declaration
of war by Congress.

7.
The publication
of Mr. Dulles'
opinions dealt
with in this letter
constitutes
an important
bench-mark
in the development of the new United States strategy.
We have the impression
that the events mentioned in
paragraph 1 above have led to the necessity
for a
clearer
thinking
out of the Administration's
broad objective,
in this field.
While Mr. Dulles'
press conference
will
serve to clarify
the issues further
the subject
is by
no means finished
with, and we expect to hear a good
deal more of the "new look" both in and out of Congress
before this year is over.

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PRESS ANJ?.RADIO NEWSCONFERENCE,TUESDAY,MARCH"
16, 1954
SECRETARYDULLES: I am glad to be back in Washingon,. aga:tn
after quite· a considerable
period of absences.
·L.have .two
or three· statements
which I would like to make before I
subject myself to questio~s.
I might say I ~ave just.come
from the meeting of the Canadian Foreign Minis.ters and
Ministe~s of Economic~, et detera.
There is a meeting going on,
We will have a com~unique i~sued this aft~rnoori sp l ~ill not
want t6.discuss
this at this ·particular.press
conference.
(See Press Release No. 140 ~ statement
of the Secretary
on
the death of Harold B. Hinton).
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to make about the Caracas Conference,
which ~ill be available
at the close -0f this pres~ conference
in mimeographed forni. · ( See Press Re lease No. 13'8) · ·

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will _be glad to answer any questioris.

Q. Mr. Secretary,
would you please give us'.the recon6il1ation
of, one, the concept of instant
retaliatioh;
two, the concept
of consultation
with our allies;
and, three,
the concept of.
involvement in war-ortly by ~n Act of Cong~ess?
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A. I assum~ your reference· to "inst 9 nt retaliation"
posedly ta_ken from ·an address of mine. .
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Saturday night.

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A. I cannot. oomment on what the .Vice-President
saidJ but I
will be glad to comment 0n w~at I said~
If you will read my
address of January 12, you will see what I advocated the~e was
a "ca pad i ty" to retaliate
fns ta ntly.
In ;no pla·ce did I say
:
we would ~~~talia·te instantly,
although we might indeed retali•
·atci ihstaritly
under cortditions
that call .for that.
The e~~entia1 thing is to have the capacity
to. retaliate
fnstantly.
It is lack of that capacity which 1ri ~Y opinibn ·accounted for
such disasters.
as Pearl· Harbor. · If we .had had the capacity
to.
ret~liate
instantly~
ih my.opinion,
there would have been no
Pearl Harpor .. But:it· to0k about.four
years to retaliate
against Tokyo .... I believe we should have that-capacity
·to retaliate instantly.
N~w, the question of whether or net you retaliate
instantly and whefe y6u retaliate
is a matter to be dealt with in
accordance with the facts of each situation.
I take it few
would have any question but what if there were an attack upon
the United States there would be instant
retaliation.
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other count1~1es with whom we have. treaty relationships!'

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The que~tion of circumstances
under which you retaliate, where· ~{OU retaliate,/
how quickly ~rou retaliate,
is a ·
matter which has to be dealt with in the. light of the facts
of each particula_r
case.
One• thing I want to make clear
beyond.the.possibility
of doubt is that I don 1 t believe
you should tell the enemy in advance just where, how, and
when you plan to retaliate~
The whole essence of the program is that the action should be an action of our choosing
and he is not' to lmow in .advance what it is,j and that uncer~
tainty on his part is a lrny to the success of the policy.
Q. Sir# if I may pursue thato
You mentioned in the event
of an attack upon a member of the North Atlantic
Treaty_
Alliance ...-you say what would then be instant
retaliationg
Does that mean :1.n the event the concept of 1nvolvement.1n
war only by Act of Cong1•ess does not apply where there is
an attack either upon the United States or upon a member of
the alliance
of wh~ch we are a part?

Ae It means in all respects the United States acts in accordande wit~ its constitutional
processes.
·There is no way
in the world in which we can get away, or want to get away 9
or intend to get away from our constitutional
processes~
How long that will take 6 I dontt know. It did not take very
long after Pearl Harbo.r to get a declaration
of war.
The
trouble is it did not do any immediate good to get a declaration of war because we did not have the capacity to do any~
thing with it.
I have never advocated~ and nobody else in the Administration
has advocated any departure from constitutional
processes •. ·Jhe North Atlantic
Treaty has provided that an
attack against; one of those states
shall be deemed the same
as an attack against the United States~
We have other treaties
with language which is not precisely
the same as that.
Just
what action by the Congress is required is a matter to be
decided in each case 8 as it always has been a matter to be
decided in each case.
The fact that you advocate having a
capacity for instant
retaliatio~
does not change your constitutional
processeso
It means we don 1 t have to wait for four
.yea:r-s;after
somebody attacks us before we are 1n a position
effectively
to h1t back.
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Sir,.~q9es:.th.~ f~(&gt;td&gt;hat:·;the··Senate;;t&gt;:f' the .Urtited;States
has rat+fJ~4··.tl1~.t:N&lt;;&gt;r&gt;1;11
··A.ti.l-~nt!c Alliance
mean in the: event
of an attack on an ·Ally''we, .could,: within constitutional
procedures,
retaliate
against
that attack without further
action
in the Congress?
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A. '.Pn~ti::Ls,:a:matter :which, 'as you,know,.iwas de'bated&gt;ve-x•y:
thorQi+.tshlY.·.in ·the Congres.s and· in ·the ·s-er.:ate ~ At the time ·
that ·Treaty was: .tatif:ted:··I
was ..in ·the ~s:enate ~: :rt is my- •
opinion that trie provisions
of the Treaty,
which state that
an attack upon one of the Allies
is :the :s.:ame· as· an:;attack'- ·.
upon all -- or in other words that an attack upon one of
our Allies
is the same as an :.attack -up•ori the· Uni t-ed states\
That is also, I ma.y say, in the Rio Fact.
That gives the
Pr:e.eJd·ent:.:of:.•,:the.United ~-s:tates·, :tne· same:.authorit"y ;t'o '.react·'
as he would have if the United States were attacked.
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He has the right?

A.,,.,.-cln rnY,.'OP.ini-on:.:'he;·Jiaa.the '.right,.;.•i'•Thatr
dc.e.s,:no:t··'nec·e:ss'aii1ly .-:,
mean in all cases he would use the right witnout; co:nsult;atkin
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by Congress~
It would depend on the gravity
of the attack,
whethe.~- Jt, •Wa$.:rob.::v;i0:u:s.&lt;the
a.t;ta~h;··me_an:t:ral.'1.;,:o:ut.:
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i.nvoJve ..un:'.' Many ,mat.te·rs ::W01.(Ld.:ha'vei·.to ·:be&gt;·;.··•
considei'.e;d .:and:;dou:btle:ss.: .:wou,ld;:be ~·011sider.ed. '.by, the: Pr-e,sid'ent .'. :
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no,t&gt;.·tcLuse ...his'.•di scre·t1onary ·-.•· · ··, · ·
authority.
1

Mr. Secret.ar.y:;\ qi±ght;-1' r.:ai.se ·a.-._question·.on- anbth~r- word.
in the reference
to capacity
to retaliate.
The sentence ends:
11
by means and at places of our choosing. 11 Now, Mb:. -Pear:s:ori
raised the question whether the word 11our 11 meant'the
United
Sta,te:s., or.'::wne:t.her d:-t.:meant _;the. f.re~' c·orrimun,ity :o:c. natfons'.". ''.
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IIThe. basic .. decision was to depend·
primarily upon a great capac{i ~y ~o .retaliate,
instantly,
by means; ::and at pla.ces of our. 'choosing O"
Q.

A. _ .Do-es':.1t use the word· If free world".?
Q.
.There were two· sentences~
One is:
"The basic decision -.::"
was to depe:nd •p1.;imar11y.tipon a great. capacity to retaliate,
instantly,
by means and at places of our choosing .."··
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Is that

the whole.sentence?

Q.

That is the end of th~ senterice"

A.

Yes.

I would like

to have the first

part

of the sentence.

first part is: · 1iBut : beforJ ~iJ..:1t.~ry planning could ...
be :Chang.ea~~·-the Preside __nt a·na. hia .iidv~l3er.s,as represented
by
the .National Security Council, J-iad ,tO t·alr_e..some basic policy
decisidns~.
This has been· done~: T6~ ~a£ic.decision
was to ·
depend primarilY upo1~-•'
a:"tt1~~at
p·apacity &gt;k·o:,
~etaliate:,
instantl:/,
by means and at places'- \&gt;f'. our. choos.+ng/ 1 ·, There was another
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sentence.
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I think there was a ..senterc~::L iµ.: tl;:le.itex.t there
about· the free world·.
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whi-cih spoke·.

-~~t ,in tnat particular
Paragr~ph.,
There is an earlier·· ....
sentence -to this part which says~ "The way to·,deter aggre's.;;.: ·:::
sion is ,,for. the free community to be will;i.ng and able to
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respond
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Which is it?

was what you wei-•e reading

from.,

A, Well, it would depend a good deal upon the circumstances.
'If there were an attack upon the United States and if we had
the capacity to respond from our own bases, we would certainly
do that
It is .:1 I think.~ we 11 mown that the bases which we
have in foreign countries
are in general not usable as a matter
of law and as a practical
matter are not usable except with
the consent of the countries where the bases are.
For example,
the bases which are available
to our Strategic
Air Force in
Great Britain are not usable as a base of attack except with
the consent of the British
Governmento The same is true in
general with all our foreign bases.
Therefore,
it is implicit
in our security
sy~tem that it operates with the consent and
acquiescence
of the other partners who have helped to provide
the facilities
which create a sort of international
police
system.
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Q. ·rf I might go on. There were two other worps which
. Mr. Pearson raised. a· question to in relation
:to the point
· which' you have just made, the one being "instantly"
and the
· other be.ing 11means. 11 . · Does this mean the choosing of means
would lie with the free community or only with the United
States?
w.ould there: be consultation?
·

A. Yes, there would certainly
be consultation
in most of
the cases .that I can conceive of.
·I might say that I wrote,
some weeks ago, an article
for Foreign Affairs,
which is in
substance a. somewhat more pollsFiecf,;-Y-hope",;'"'"restate.ment of
my spEH;1chwhich was .made before the Council of Foreign
Relations,
whioh publishes
Foreign Affairs.
That l did while
I was flying back from BerlTn~---Y-under~"'"tand that is being
released
for publication
tomorrow ipNew York by the magazine
B orei!?a£ Af..fai:rs.,
That will elabo:;."'ate to so;ne extent the
thesis which I expr·essed in my address of January 12.
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Q~ I would like to ask another question on this subject.
There has been some discussion
and speculation
to the effect
that reliance
on the capacity
to retaliate
instantly
as a
ma;Jor part of your defensive
system would mean 11 in the case
of a limited challenge
in some remote area.., you would have
the choice either
of an all-out
war 'or&gt; no resistance
.at all •.

A.· That is not a correct analyi:is of the thesis at all.
··Let us ta.ke, for example.s the declaration
which was made
by the 16 powers in relation
to Korea; which is one of the
ill~strations
I made in my spe~chi
It has been stated there
that if aggression
should be resumed that·the
reaction
would
not necessarily
be confined to Korea.
Now what does that
mean? That .does not mean necessarily
that there will be an
effort made. to. drop· atomic bombs on Peiping or upon Moscow.
It does mean that thsre are areas of importance to the aggressors
in that vicinity
which may have an industrial
or
strategic
relationship
to the operation
which would no
longer be wl.1.atGeneral MacArthur called a "privileged
sanctuary".
I :cannot imagine any policy more futile
or more apt to
create war than to adopt the policy that you will only react
at the particular
place, and by the means the aggressor
selects.
If anything would ever put a premium onaggression,·
it would .be that.
We want to' take away that premium on
aggress~on.
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that speech,; there
1 while. we a;re annotating.'
was a reference
:tn there to a ;l;es$er reliance ..:on local. defense,
and some at:estion
has been raised-as-to
whether:that
meant-·
less reliance
on. defense. by local,: :i,.ndigenous. forces which , i
we might aid~ for example, or less reliance
on local actions
by jmerican
forces,
in
local
sectora,of,tt~
long ~rontt .·
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A ... What I meant there~ when. I say. rir•1 ; L m:tght.
ihat
tha~ spe?ch wa~ -not jtist a .personal
speech 9: ,.-was-that, 1-f you ..
have the capacity
to. str.il{e-. an. aggressor at ,-the; points _which
wil;J: h~rt him,. _the dete:r.re.nt power of, that is .sufficient
so :
that you clo not. need. 'bo have loc·a1 · defens-e ~a-ll aromid. · the : :, ..
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OOO-miJ.e ,perlm~ter
of. the ..orbit of the _Soviet World· 'bacau-se
your oe-terrent- power.i, to ·a large extent.,o,reinforces.
your: · -· ·
local power- so that you .do- not. h_ave to depencLup_oh .havirig;'fn·.
place forces in being sufficient
to stop an attack
in its
tracl}s anywhere •where ..it. c.ould · occur because you rely .pr:LmarllY
upon deterring
that attack,.
not necess.arily
upon .being able
to stop ·1 tJI.
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Commun:is·tWor-la.~..:.with .:its ; .
8QQ.,·OOO"
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.with ·±ta
vast land armies--it
would be utterly
impossible
to have
local .oe:fenses 'all ·.around ,that -.20,.000-mi.le orbit. suffic.i.ent.
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to stop .any ·blow that. might come at whereve.r they might -c::.7'-i,::roa'e
to rr)ake i.t o., :So that YOU: have got ,t-0 f:i.nd some· way whereby
.
that _type of :local ground defense -:can be supplemented o And: ,.the
wc;1yto suppl~_me_nt 1t ·~Lsto· have:, a. capa:city t.o .re.tali.ate •at,_: .
times, pla,ce~; and witp me·thods .:of yo1...1r.ownc,ho:Qsing.
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them. y_our pr:irnaPy reliance
because., as. ·against the ~ind .of . , .
danger ~hich ,:;;o;,:(•f-Jatens.,:l,t if:; :impos·sible t.o match your potential enemy gt ,all points on :a -bases of man-for~-man; gun-fo:rgun and tank-for-tank.
If we try to do that,
we are -go:ing
to go "bust".
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if· I may go back. to one point of
yours, .yoµ said that in Europe the Pre.side.nt had the same
qU1;;11or-ityunder the NATOa.nd. Rio Treaties
·to retaliate
if
the United States. was at-tack~clo; Well:i,.·.last WGdnesda.y he seemed
to give a pledge that he would not use that because he said
that there would be no involvement
in war without Congressional
approval.
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a different

the. Senate
matter.

has given

approval

in advance.,

that

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Well, the specific
case ·was Indochina.
what some of us were
wondering
about.
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that

was

A •. Yes, .there has been no ·congressional
approval
given in·
advance of ·a war in Indcichina to which the United Statea
would be a pa1~ty o , He certainly
did not me·an,' I think,
to
'imply that if the United States was attacked,
and if Congress
was not in session~
that he would wait unt11·congress
was
called
back into session
and make a declaration
of war bef·ore
we would react to a bombing attack
on New York City or Detroit
or Washington.
I think if any President
waited under those
circumstances,
he would certainly
not be carrying
out the will
of either
the Congress 01 the American people.
1

Qa S11;'.!fI'm a little
dense on this matter of Indochina_.
Would you clarify
this for me? France is our ally in tbe
No1th Atlantic
Alliance..
French tI•oops are fighting
in Indochina..
If the :Chinese Communists,· with the r·egular forces·
fr.om Chtna, ·should cross the f1"ontie1"' into Indochina 'and ..
attack
the armed· foi ces of our. all:\,, France» would our responsibilities
or obligations
unde1" the NATO allianc·e
come
into force?
If not~' why?
1

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A.· No, they will not because the NATOalliance
does not apply to any- part of the·, world: except .the North Atlantic
area
as it 1s defined· in the :ti~eaty
That definition
in the. nipin
i's confined_ to Europe/ al thou'gl) it does cover a portion
of
French North Africa-·;;..I ·think Algeria
is cov~red by it.
_
But in the main 8 it -covers ·oi1lythe- Eutiopean area,
including
a slight
bit of North Africa:;·and,
of course,
the Asiatic
portion of Turkey.
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A. Now, I don I t mean to,· imply -that if the event you spoke
of happened, we should -do nothing.
I myself have sa•io that
I believed
that if that happened 1-'le should do something.
But
that doesn 1 t mean we- should- db it without Congressional
app:toval or consultation.
In the context
of the 'ans·wer you just gave abo1:1t
Detroit 1 or. Chi'cago ih referring
to ·an- earlier
answer
gave, would it be fair to say that the.President
has
power to react in Europe in the case of a bombing of
or Paris?
Q.

A.

Yes,

New York.,
you : ·
the same
London,

sir.

Q. Sir, would it be accurate
then to say that instant
retaliation
in effect
is recognition
of the restraining
effect
of the possession
of atomic weapons--the
deterrent
power?
Is there a distinction
between instant
retaliation
and deterrent?
It is a deterrent.
A. Yes.,

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A. Yes, I have said that

the capacity to retaliate
powerfully and instantly
is, in my opinion, the great deterrent,
and that when you are faced with the kind of potential
enemy, or. With the assets that this potential
enemy has, I
believe that a deterrent
of that sort is the most effective
way there is of preventing
a war.
Now I can imagine a 'different
world condition where
reliance
might properly be placed upon other methods, and
other means, but, as far as the present world condition·is
concerned, that capacity to retaliate
powerfully at places of
our choosing 1s.
in my opinion, what will serve as a powerful deterrent
to war.

I believe that the original
Korean attack would not have
occurred if it had not been asswood either that we would not
react at all, or if we did react would react only at the
place and by the means that the aggressors
chose.
I believe ..
that the Allied Sixteen-Powei" Decla.ration,
which now operates
in the case of Korea, will probably pre~ent ~ny rene0al of
Communist aggression
there~
Mr. Se~•retary, in order to clarify
something~ in my own
mind at least,
is it your understanding
that the President's
right to order instant
retaliation
applies only in the c~se
of an attack either on the United States or another North
Atlantic
Treaty power because of the understanding
that Congress
has given?
Q.

A. The United States has two treaties
that I referred
to:
One is the so-called
Rio Treatt of Reciprocal Assistance,
which contains the provision
that an attack upon one is the
same as an attack upon all; that same provision
is found in
the North Atlantic
Treaty.
In my opinion -- whatever it is
worth as a lawyer, and as one who was in• the Senate when the
North Atlantic
Treaty was adopte.d -- I believe that that
authorizes,
is a consent in advance to the President
reacting
against an attack upon one of our allies
named in those
_·
treaties
in the same way that he would be authorized
to react
in the event of an attack upon the United states itself.
I
repeat,
however, that the fact that the President
has that
Constitutional
·authority as the result
of those tr(~aties in my
opinion does not necessarily
mean that he wou:Ld use it.
He
would use his discretion,
I think, as to wh~ther or not to
react instantlj,
or whether to get eithe~ a formal-declaration
of war by the Congress, or whether to have consultations
which satisfied
himself that that was the will of the Congress.
That would be discretionary
with the President.
Mr. Secretary,
doesn't the President
under the United Nations Charter itself?
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have that

same power
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st:ttution
as Commander in Chief?

the United

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Congres~?
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a decla1.,a.tion

without

action

of war by
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which hae be~n
debated ·ever since our nation was formedc
There are certain~.
ly areae \'lithj_n which a Pres:tdent can' act .:... c~;r•tainly are~s
in which it has been cuatomar;v for Presidents
act -without any formal action by the Congress,c
There is a twilight zone thereo
Nobody has ever attempted t&lt;f defj_ne accurately
that twilight
zone, a~d I, snal,1 p.qt attempt :I:.t.i
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ceive: of. II Would you 'c·onsideri ~ay~ an' attack 'upon the
northe;r'n part of Cap.aqa _an ~ttacl{. upon the ...Uni,ted,., States$
and; ·would you cons\,i:t-t wt.th bth_e':i-•NATO·cfr.nintries '.l:iefor,e-·you·
reacted
to that at'tack?'
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it is impossible
to determine .in adyance what.all
of
the su..rrounding circumstances.
are,.·and .it would certainly
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also not be advisable
to give any forel{nowledge to a potential_
enemy as to whether or not he would have any time between.
his attack and having to suffer
the consequences
it.

of

Mr. Secretary,
ference?

Q.

how are plans

coming for

the Geneva Con-

A. The tnformation

I got when I got.back to.my desk yesterday
was that there is some evidence ,in .Moscow of_ delaying. tact:,-cs
with respect
to the practical
arrangements
for ,se.tting up
the conference.
There s,eenis -t;o )?e, ,an:.,i111pr'es_s.~on
_t;~a:t the.
Chinese C'ommunists are riot 'eptireTy' happy',.over, ...the:.:ar_range~
ments which were made for them be:Caus(f -they·h~d e~pected,
hoped to be able to come to the conference·a:s
cine.of the socalled Big Five.
r.t'hat, of c.0J1rse_,. Wq.S: de:qied :to the,m and i:t.
would see1n&lt;as though the .{36Jiet ':pEf,
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Sir, have you reached a conclusion
John P. Davies?

Q.

yet in the case of

A. No* The situation
in tpe Davie$ case is this:
I went
over the very full summary of the evidence consisting of
about 200 rather closely-t-y;ped pages before I went to
Caracaa.
It seemed that there were some points which called
for explanation,
and the lt;1,wyerin.the Security Office
formulated a request for e~lanationa.
Those were given to
Mr.. Davies, and his counsel.
They have now made a reply.
The reply 1~ being studied in the Security Office, and I
am waiting for their recommendations to me, or report to me,
on the basis of those questions an,d the responses made by
Mr. Davies.
Mr. Secretary,
ha.s . · the Soviet Foreign Off ic_e formally.
informed you of the·dissatistaction
of the Chinese Communist$,
with the arrangements?
Q.

A.

No, that

is inference,

Mr. Secretary,
twenty-three Japanese fishermen suffered
radio-active
burns as a result of the latest explosion?
And
today the Japanese Foreign Minister said that Japan might
ask compensation from the United States.
I was wondering
if you have any comment on the incident and upon his statement.

Q.

A. No, I have no comments to make. I only heard of it today·.
We had a report from our Embassy in Tokyo, which I got this
morning~ But I have no information as to how this unfortunate accident came about --assuming that the facts are as
reported.

Mr. Secretary,
a report was published in London last
week-end to the effect that the United States has told France
that this country would offer economic inducements to Red
...
China to end the Indochina war. Is that correct?
Q.

A.

It is not correct.

Mr. Secretary~ does the October 8 decision
our final postion with respect to a. settlement

Q.

still r~present
in Trieste?

A. You have caught me a little
bit unprepared on that·
question.
I have not had the opportunity to check up-I'm bound to say- ...with the developments in the Trieste matter
since I got back from Caracas.
So you will have to Just
excuse me on that one.
Mr. Secretary,
Senator Dirksen said he would discuss.
with you immediately upon your re:turn from C~acas'the
matter of freeing German confiscated property.
Would you
te.JJ.__u_a
.. wa..t..~.QPl,p.1on
is?
Should
it
be
returned
soon?
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A. I don't care to express an opinion on that.
I have an
appointment with Senator Dirksen, and I expect to go over
the matter with him, and until I have done that I do"''t
care to express any opinion.

Q. Mr. secretary,
are the delaying tactics
on the preparations
for Geneva such that they might delay the conference itself?

A.

That is conceivable,

Q.

Thank you, sir.

yes.
Henry Suydam

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State--PB,

Wash., D.C.

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References

I enclose five copies of Department of State
press release
No. 139 of March 16, 1954, containing
the
text of the article
prepared by the Secretary
of State
for the April issue of Foreign Affairs.
2.
In his news conference
of March 16, Mr. Dulles
made the following
remark concerning this article:
"I might say that I wrote, some weeks ago, an
article
for Foreign Affairs,
which is in substance a somewhat more polished,
I hope, restatement
of my speech which was made before
the Council of Foreign Relations,
which
publishes
Foreign Affairs.
That I did while
I was flying back from Berlin.
I understand
that is being released
for publication
tomorrow
in New York by the magazine Foreign Affairs.
That will elaborate
to some extent the thesis
which I expressed
in my address of January 12."

Internal
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3.
_The above quotation
is taken from the transcript
published
in the New York Times of March 17 which you
will have seen, and it is perhaps of some significance
that he referred
to this article
in connection with a
question arising
out of Mro Pearso_nvs speech 'Before· the
National Press Clubo

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For the Ambassador.

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1954.

ALL POSTS ABROAD
Attached is the text of an article
by the United
States .Secretary of State prepared for the April issue of
Foreis;n Affairs.
At a news conference on March 16 1 1954,
Mr. Dulles remarked that this article
constituted
a more
polished restatement
of the speech which he delivered
to the
Council on Foreign Relations
in New York on January 12 on
the long~range global policy of the Eisenhower administration.
The article
elabo.ra tes the thesis expressed
in the
speech of January 12, but contains no basic change in the
main elements of the new policy.
Greater emphasis is given
to a collective
system of defence which is "the cornerstone
of security
for the free nations"o
This security
depends
upon "the cooperation
of our allies"
without which the United
would not even be in a position
to retaliate
massiv,ely against
the war industries
of an attacking
nation.·
The controversial
statement
in the speech of January 12 concerning the basic
decision
of the United States National
Security
Council "to
depend primarily
upon a great capacity
to retaliate
instantly
by means and in places of our choosing" does rtot appear in
this articleo
In stressing
the importance of local defence,
however, it is stated that "the ID9.in reliance
must be on the
power of the free community to retaliate
with great force by
mobile means at places of its own choice"o
Acknowledgment
reshaping
of the military
various respects"and
the
reply to criticism
of the
defence policy:

is given to the fact that "this
program was misconstrued·in
following points are made in
"new look" in the United States

a) The United States does not intend to rely
wholly on large-scale
strategic
bombing as
the sole means to deter and counter
aggression;
b) the program is not a move away from collective
security
but rather
the opposite;
c) the United States policy does not envisage
withdrawal
of large forces from abroad in
the interests
of mobilityo
Forces in the F:ar
East will be reduced in number. but the force
remaining will have great striking
power.
If the continental
nations in Europe provide
"a harmonious nucleus of integrated
defence"
the United States would expect to maintain
substantial
forces in Europe$ both in support
of the forward strategy
of defence and for
political
reasons;·
d) while it will be practicable
by this program
to reduce economic aid to United States
allies,
this aid will not be wholiy excluded
and the Technical Assistance
Program will
continueo

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The following
John Foster Dulles

is a~ article
for ~he April

prepared by Secretary
of State
issue of Foreign Affairs.

Since World War II, the United States has faced the
diff,f.cult
task of finding policies
which would be adequate
for pecurity
and peace and at the same time compatible with
·its traditions.
Never before has a great nati:on been called
upon to adjust its thinking
and its action so radically
in so
short a period.
During the nineteenth
century the maintenance of peace and
order depended largely
on Great Britain,
with its Navy and the
system of naval bases which enabled it to operate with mobility
and flexibility
throughout
the world.
By suitable
commercial,
investment
and monetary policies,
Great Britain
and other
nations with surplus capital
stimulated
economic growth in
underdeveloped
areas.
The French Revolution had aroused men
to respect
and promote human rights
and fundamental freedoms.
The United States also made its contribution.
Our people
devoted their energies
largely
to domestic matters,
not because
they lacked concern for others but believing
that what our
founpers called 1ethe conduct and examplett of freedom would
exert a liberating
influence
everywhere.
In fact, it did so.
The 19great American experiment"
was a source of hope and inspiration
to men everywhere,
and especially
to those living
under despotism.
Our dynamic example of freedom drew many to
our shores and inspired
others,
in the old world and the new,
to emulate our course.
All of these influences
contributed
to giving the world
relative
peace and security
for the 100 years between the
ending of the Napoleonic wars and the beginning of the
First World War. During this period there were many advances in the practice
of p9litical
liberty,
and generally
throughout
the world there was a great advance in material
and social well-being.
The events of the twentieth
century,
and especially
the two World Wars and their aftermaths,
have created an
entirely
new situation.
In large measure the Uni tt(d States
has inherited
a responsibility
for leadership
whichi in the
pastj has been shared by several nations.
Today there rests
upon us, to a unique degree, the threefold
task of providing insurance
against another world war; of demonstrating
the good fruits
of freedom which undermine the rule of
despots by contrast;
and of providing
a major part of the
effort
required
for the healthy growth of underdeveloped
areas.
The Eisenhower Administration
inherited
security
policies
that had much worth.
Many of these policies
were bipartisan
in character.
They reflected
a national
recognition
of the
peril facing the civilized
world, a united determination
to
meet it, and an acceptance
of the role of leadership
thrust,,
on us by events.
We had helped to reestablish
the economies
of other countries
shattered
by the war.
We had taken a
major part in resisting
the aggression
in Korea.
In the
face of the Soviet threat we were engaged in rebuilding
our
military
strength
and that of other free countries.
·
These and like measures were costly.
But they were
necessary
to our security.
However, they partook much of an
emergency character.
By 1953 there was need to review our
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securTty planning and to adjust our continuing
military
to the other requirements
of a well-rounded,
permanent

effort
policy.

·Under the condition-sin
which we live, it is not easy
to strlke,
perfect
balance between military
and non-military
efforts
anq to ~hoose the type of military
effort
which serves
us besto
The essential
is to recognize
that there is an
imperative
need for .a balance which holds military
expenditures
to a minimum consistent
with safety,
so that a maximum of
liberty
may operate as a dynamic force against despotism.
That is the goal of our policyo
IIa

The Nature

of the Threat

The threat we face is not one that can be adequately
dealt
with on an emergency basis.
It is a threat
that may long
persist a Our policies
must be adapted to this basic fact a
The Soviet menace does not reflect
the ·ambiti0ns :oiC.c'
a single ruler,
and cannot be measured by his life expectancy.
There is no evidence that basic Soviet policies
have been
changed with the passing of Stalino
Indeedi the Berlin
Conference of last February gave positive
evidence to the
contrarya
The Soviet Communists have always professed
that
they are planning for what they call 18an entire
historical
eraa 10
The assets behind this threat
are vast.
The Soviet
bloc of Communist-controlled
countries--a
new form of
imperialist
colonialism--represents
a vast central
land
mass ..with. a population
of 800jOOO,OOOa About 10,000,000
men are -regularly
under -arms, with many more trained millions
in re-serve.
T-hi--s--1.andfe-rce occupies a central
position
which permits of striking
at any one of about 20 countries
along a -per:1-me-t-er -of -seme 20 ;-000---mil-eso -·I-t is supplemented
sy -i-n-cr-easing air power, equipped with atomic weapons:, able
to -strik-e throu-g-h -northern Arctic routes which bring our
industrial
areas in range of quick attacka
The threat is not merely militarya
The Soviet rulers
dispose throughout
the world of the apparatus
of international
Communismo It operates with trained
agitators
and a powerful propaganda organization.
It exploits
every area of
discontent,
whether it be political
disconten·t
against
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colonialism
or social discontent
against economic conditions.
It seeks to: harass the existing
order and pave the
way for political
coups which will install
Communist=controlled
regimes a
B~ the use of many types of manoeuvres and threats,
military
and political,
the Soviet rulers
seek gradually
to divide and weaken the free nations and to make their
policies
appear as bantrupt
by overextending
them in efforts
which, as Lenin put it, are "beyond their strength."
Then,
said Lenin, '°our victory is assured a16 Then, said Stalin,
will be the rnmoment for the decisive
blowa 16

It is not easy to devise policies
which will counter
a danger so centralized
and so vast~ so varied and so
sustained.
It is no answer to substitute
the glitter
of
steel for the torch of freedome
An answer can be found by drawing on those basic
concepts which have come to be regularly
practised
within
our civic communitieso
There we have almost wholly given
up the idea of relying primarily
on house=by-house
defense.
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Instead 9 primary reliance
is placed upon the combining
concepts,
namely,i the creation
of power on a community
and the use of that power so as to deter aggression
by
it costly to an aggressoro
The
free
nations
must
apply
'
same principles
in the inte·rnational
sphere o
.

IIIo

of two
basis
making
these

Community Defense

The cornerstone
of security
for the free nations must be
a collective
system of defenseo
They clearly
cannot achieve
security
separatelyo
No single nation can develop for itself
defensive
power of adequate scope and flexibilityo
In seeking
to do so, each would become a garrison
state and none would
achieve securityo
This is true of the United Stateso
Without the cooperation of allies,
we would not even be in a position
to retaliate
massively
against the war industries
of an :attacking
nationo
That requires
international
facilitieso
Without them, our
air striking
power loses much of its deterrent
powero With
them, strategic
air power becomes what Sir Winston Churchill
-called the 18supreme deterrent on He credited
to tt the safety
of Europe during recent yearso
But such power, while now a
dominant factor,
may not have the same significance
forevero
Furthermore,
massive atomic and the:rmonuclear retaliation
is
not the kind of power which could most usefully
be evoked
under all circumstanceso
Security for the free world depends, therefore,
upon the
development of collective
security
and community power rather
than upon purely national
potentials.
Each: nation which
shares the security
should contribute
in accordance with its
capabilities
and facilitie$o
The Inter=American
Treaty of
Reciprocal
Assistance
(Rio Pact) of 1947 set a postwar
example in establishing
the principle
that an armed attack
against one would be considered
as an attack against all.
The North A-tl--anti-c T-re-at-y i-s based on the same principle.
Its m-ember-s-hav-e--g-ene-much further
i-n -organi-zi-ng Joint forces
and facilities
as a part of the integrated
security
system.
NATOprovides essential
air and naval basesj to which its
various members can contribute~=
each according to its
means ?"aridcapabilities
o It provides the planes and ships and
weapons which can use these baseso
It provides so many
points from which an aggressor
could be harassed,
in so
many different
ways, that he cannot prudently
concentrate
his forces for offense against
a single victim.
While NATObest exemplifies
this collective
security
concept, there are other areas where the same concept is
evolving,
although as yet in a more rudimentary
form.
An
example is the Western Pacific,
where the United States has
a series of collective
security
treaties
which now embrace
Australia,
New Zealand, the Philippines,
Japan and Korea.
Collective
arrangements
are now in the making in the Middle
East with Turkey-Pakistan
as the nucleus.
These developments show the growing acceptance
of the collective
security
concept we describe.
The United ;Nations is striving
to make collective
security
effective
on a basis broader than regionalism.
The central
principle
of the Charter is that any armed attack is of universal concern and calls for collective
measures of resistance.
The Soviet Union, by its veto powerj has made it impractical,
as yet, to make available
to the Security Council the 1varmed
forces,
assistance,
and fac:Lli ties 10 contemplated
by Article
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1,-3·of the· Chartero
W}:lenaggression
occurred in Korea, however, the pr~n~iple of collective
action was invoked by the
United Nations and acted on by more than a majority
of the
members, includin~
l~ which sent armed forces to Korea to
repel the aggression o The "Uni ting for Peace'' Resolution,
adopted by the General Assembly in November 1950, grew out
of that experienceo
That resolution
will enable members of
the United Nations to join in carrying
out similar
collective
measures. .agaj:ns.t. any future aggression
without being blocked
by a [Soviet vetoo

The free worla system of bases is an integral
part of
its co11ecti ve security o At the recent Four __;Power Conference
in Berlin 9 Mr o Molotov repeatedly
attacked
these bases as
evidence of aggressive
purposeo
Actually these bases on the
territory
of other sovereign countries
are merely a physical
expression
of the collective
security
systemo
They were
constructed
only at the request of the host nation and their
availability
depends upon its consent, usually
as a legal
condition
and always as a practical
oneo The requisite
consent to the use of these bases would never be accorded
unless it was clear that their use was in response to open
aggression,
and reasonably
related
to its scope and nature.
This gives assurance of their community function.
Thus the free world has practical
means for achieving
collective
security
both through the United Nations and the
various regional
arrangements
already referred
to.
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Strategy

to Deter Aggression

The question remainsg How should collective
defense
be organized by the free world for maximum protection
at
minimum cost?
The heart of the problem is how to deter
attacko
This, we believe,
requires
that a potential
aggressor be left in no doubt that he would be certain
to
suffer dam.age outweighing
any possible
gains from aggression.
This result would not ·be --assured, -even by pollecti ve
measures, if the free world sought to match the potential
Communist forces,
man for man and tank for tank, at every
point where they might attack.
The Soviet-Chinese
bloc does
not lack manpower and spends it as something that is cheap.
If an aggressor
knew he could always prescribe
the battle
conditions
that suited him and engage us in struggles
mainly involving
manpowerj aggression
might be encouraged.
He would be tempted to attack in places and by means where
his manpower sµperiority
was decisive
and., where at little
cost he could 1mpose upon us great burdens.
If the free
world adopted that strategy,
it could bankrupt itself
and
not achieve security
over a sustained
period.
The free world must devise a better
strategy
for its
defense,
based on its own special
assetso
Its assets include, especiall.Y,
air and"naval power and atomic weapons
which are now available
in a wide range, suitable
not only
for strategic
bombing but also for extensive
tactical
use.
The free world must make imaginative
use of the deterrent
capabilities
of these new weapons and mobilities
and exploit the full potential
of collective
security.
Properly
used, they can produce defensive
power able to retaliate
at once and effectively
against
any aggression.

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To deter aggression,
it is important
to have the
flexibility
and the facilities
which make various responses
availableo
In many cases, any open assault
by Communist
forces could only result
in starting
a general waro But
the free world must have the means for responding effectively on a selective
basis when it chooseso
It must not put
itself
in the position
where the only response open to it
is general waro The essential
thing is that a potential
aggressor
should know in advance that he can and will be ,
made to suffer for his -aggression
more than he can possibly
gain by it.
This calls for a system in which local defensive strength
is reinforced
by more mobile deterrent
powero
The method of doing so will vary according to the character
of the various areaso
Some areas are so vital that a special guard should
and can be put around themo Western Europe is such an areao
Its industrial
plant represents
so nearly the balance of
industrial
power in the world that an aggressor might feel
that it was a good gamble to seize it -- even at the risk of
considerable
hurt to himselfo
In this respect,
Western
Europe is exceptionalo
Fortunately,
the Western European
countries
have both a military
tradition
and a large military
potential,
so .that through a European Defence Community, and
with support by the United States ·and Britain,
they can
create an adequate defense of the Continento
Most areas within the reach of an aggressor
offer less
value to him than the loss he would suffer from wellconceived retaliatory
measures.
Even in such areas, howe-ver:.,
local defense will always be importanto
In every endangered
area there should be a sufficient
military
establishment
to
maintain order against subversion
?nd to resist
other forms
of indirect
aggression
and minor satellite
aggressions.
This
serves the indispensable
need to demonstrate
a purpose to
resist,
and to compel any aggressor
to expose his real intent
by such serious fighting
as will brand him before all the
world and promptly bring collective
measures into operationo
Potential
aggressors
have little
respect for peoples who have
no will to fight for their own protection
or to make the
sacrifices
needed to make that fighting
significanto
Also,
they know that such peoples do not attract
allies
to fight
for their causeo
For all of these reasons,
local defense is
importanto
But in such areas the main reliance
must be on
the power of the free community to retaliate
with great force
by mobile means at places of its own choice
a

A would-be aggressor
will hesitate
to commit aggression
if he knows in advance that he thereby not only exposes those
particular
forces which he chooses to use for his ·~ggression,
~ut ~lso deprives
his other assets of "sanctuary"
~tatuso
Th&amp;t does not mean turning every local war into a world war.
It does not mean that if there is a Communist attack somewhere in Asia, atom or hydrogen bombs will necessarily
be
dropped on the great industrial
centres of China or Russia.
It does mean that the free world must maintain the collective
means and be willing
to use them in the way which most effectively makes aggression
too risky and expensive to be
tempting o

It is sometimes said that this system is inadequate
because it assures an invaded country only that it will
eventually
be liberated
and the invader punished a That
observation
misses the pointo
The point is that a prospective

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attacker
is not likely
to invade if he believe~ the probable
hurt will _outbalance the probable gain.
A system which
compels potential
aggressor,
to face up to that fact indispensably
supp~ements a local defensive
syst~m.

L Practical
We can alread·y

begin

Applications

.
'

to see applications

of these

policies.

In Korea the forces fighting
aggression
had been so
closely limited
that they were forbidden even to apply the
doct}ine of "hot pursuit"
in relation
to enemy planes that
were based across the Yalu.
The airfields
from which attacks
were mounted were immune, as were the lines and sources of
their supply.
The fighting
there was finally
stopped last
July on terms which had been proposed many months before.
That result
was achieved,
at least in part, because the
aggressor,
already denied territorial
gains, was faced with
the possibility
that the fighting
might, to his own great
peril,
soon spread beyond the limits
and methods which he
had selected,
to areas and methods that we would select.
In
other words, the principle
of using methods of our choice was
ready to be invoked, and it helped to stop the war which the
enemy had begun and had pursued on the theory that it would
be a limited war, at places and by means of its choosing.
The 16 memQers of the United Nations who fought in
Korea have invoked the same principleo
They have given
public notice that if the Communists were to violate
the
armistice
and renew the aggression,
the response of the United
Nations Command would not necessarily
be confined to Koreao
Today, if aggression
were resumed, the United Nations Command
would certainly
feel free to inflict
heavy damage upon the
aggressor
beyond the immediate area which he chose for his
aggression.
That need not mean indulging
in atomic warfare
throughout Asia.
It should not be stated in advance precisely
what would be the ~cope of military
action if new a~gression
occurred.
That is a matter as to which the aggrespbr had best
remain ignorant.
But he can know and does know, in the light
of present policies,
that the choice in this respect is ours
and hot his.
In relation
to Indo-China,
the United
stated that if there were open Red Chinese
there,
that would have "grave consequences
confined to Indo-China."

States has publicly
Army aggression
which might not be

On December 26, 1953, President
Eisenhower made an
ifilportant statement which clearly
reflected
our present
policy -as applied to Asia.
He announced a progressive
reduction -of United States ground forces in Korea.
However, he
went -on to point out that United States military
forces in
--t-he F-ar East will now feature
nhighly mobile naval, air and
- amphibious units;"
and he added that in this way, despite
some withdrawal of land forces,
the United States will have
--a capacity
to oppose aggression
"with even greater
effect
than
he-r-etofore."
In the same month the United State·s reaffirmed
i t-s 1-ntent to maintain in Okinawa the rights made available
-to us by the -Japanese Peace Treaty.
This location
is needed
to ensure striking
power to implement the collective
security
concept.
In Europe, our intentions
are primarily
expressed by
the North Atl-antic Treaty.
Following the aggression
in Korea
of June 1950, the Treaty members proceeded to an emergency
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buildup of military
strength
in Western Europeo
The
st·rehgth built between 1950 and 1953 has served well the
cause of peace.
But by 1953, it did not seem necessary
to
go on at the original
paceo
At the April 1953 meeting of the NATOCouncil, the United
States put forward a new concept, now known as that of the
"long haul."
It meant a steady development of defensive
strength
at a rate which would preserve
and not exhaust the
economic strength
of our allies
and ourselves.
This would
be reinforced
by the availability
of new weapons of vastly
increased
de·st-ructi ve power and by the striking
power of an
air force based .on internationally
agreed positions.
President
Eisenhowe·r is now seeking an amendment of the present law
to permit a freer exchange of atomic information
with ,our
NATO·.Allie•s.

When we-went back to the NATOCouncil meeting of last
December, we found that there was general acceptance
of the
"long ·aauln concept.
The result
is that most of our NATO
allies
are now able to achieve budgetary and economic stability,
without large dependence on our economic aid.
The growing free-world
defensive
system, supported by
community facilities
and coupled with adequate policies
for
their use, reflects
the nearest
approach that the world has
yet made to a means to achieve effective
defense,
at
minimum cost.
VI.

The. Current

Military

Program

\

One of the basic tasks
been to review our military
foregoing
policies.

of the new Administration
has
program in the light of the

In the years 1945-53, our military
programs went through
wide ffuuctuations
which hindered orderly and efficient
administrationo
During the first
part of this period,
the
policy -was to -recl·uee ·-t-he mili·tary -establi-shment
drastically.
During the latter
-part of the -period, -the policy was to
increase
the military
establishment
rapidly.
During both
the decrease and the increase
tne military
budget reflected
the so-called
"balance of forcesP concept.
In practical
terms, this meant splitting
the available
funds into three
roughly equal slices .for the Army, Navy and Air Force.
When the E!senhower Administration
took office,
our
national
security
programs, at home and abroad, were costing
over 50 billion
dollars
a year, and were planned at about
55 billion
dollars
for the next year.
Budgetary deficits
were of the order of 10 billion
dollars,
despite
taxes comparable to wartime taxes.
Inflation
was depreciating
the
purchasing
power of the dollar6
Our allies
were similarly
burdened.
The .American people have repeatedly
shown that they are
prepared to make whatever sacrifices
are really necessary
to
insure our national
safety.
They would no doubt support
military
expenses at the levels which their government told
them were required
for security,
even at the cost of budget
deficits,
resultant
inflationary
pressures
and tax-levels
which would impair incentives.
But the patriotic
will :to
sacrifice
is not something to be drawn upon needlessly.
Government has the high duty to seek resourcefully
and inventively
the ways which will provide security
without
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sacrificing
economic and social welfareo
The security
poliGies
we here describe m.ake possible
more selective
and more effi'cient
programs in terms of the composition
of forces and
of procuremento
The new Administration
has sought to readjust,
in an
orderly way, the program for the military
forceso
Before
this could be done, it was necessary
to clarify
the extent
of our reliance
on collective
security;
to define more clearly
our basic strategy
both in Europe and the Far East; to reassert our freedom of action in repelling
future aggression;
to assess the impact of newer types of weapons; and to relate
the composition
and size of our ready and potential
forces
to all these factors.
Inevitably
this has taken time.
It bas required
a
series of difficult
basic decisions
by the President
with
,the advice of the National
Security Council and with supporting decisions
by the Department of State,
the Department
of Defense and the Treasury Department.
It has been necessary
to exchange views with Congressional
leaders
and our principal allies
and to inform world opinion so that neither
our
friends
nor our enemies abroad would misinterpret
what we
were doingo By now, however, the new course is charted and
is guiding our military
planning.
As a result,
it is now
possible
to get, and share, more basic security
at less costo
That is reflected
in the budget which the President
has
submitted for the 1955 fiscal
yearo
In this budget, national
security
expenditures
for fiscal
year 1955 will amount to
45 billion dollars as compared with 50 billion dollars for
1953 and 49 billion dollars for 19540
Initially
this reshaping
of the military
program was
misconstrued
in various respects.
Some suggested that the
United States intended to rely wholly on large-scale
strategic
bombing as the sole means to deter and counter aggression.
What has already been said should dispose of this erroneous
ideao
The potential
of massive attack will always be kept
in a state of instant
readiness,
and our program will retain
a wide variety
in the means and scope for responding
to aggression.
Othexs -i-n-t-erp-r-e-t-edthe -pxogram a-s -a move away from
collective
security.
The· exact op·posi te is the case, as
has been shown •. Our policies
are· base,r squarely on a
collective
security
system and depend for their success on
its continuing
vitality.
Still
others feared that we intended
to withdraw our forces from abroad in the interest
of mobilityo
Now that the fighting
is ended in Korea, our forces in the
Far East will be reduced in numbers, as has previously
been
announced, but the kind of force that remains will have
,great striking
powero Moreover, the program does not mean
that we intend to pull our forces out of Europeo
It is,
of course, essential
that the continental
nations themselves
provide a harmonious nucleus of integrated
defenseo
If they
do so, the United States would expect to maintain substantial forces of its own in Europe, both in support of the
forward strategy
of defense and for political
reasonso
Another consequence of our new policies
is that it has
become practicable
to reduce our economic :atcil to our allieso
The Technical Assistance
Program will go on and economic
aid is not wholly excludedo
There are still
some places
near the Soviet orbit where the national
governments cannot
maintain adequate armed forces without help from uso That
is notably so in the Middle and Far Easto
We have contributed
largely,
ungrudgingly,
and I hope constructively,
to end
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aggression
and advanQe freedom in Indo=Chinao
The stakes
there are so high thijt it would be culpable not to contribute
to the forces struggiing
to resist
Communist oppressiono
But broadly speaking,
economic aid in the form of
grants is on its way out as a major element of our foreign
policyo
This is highly desirable
from many standpointso
It helps to make our own budget more manageable and it
promotes more self-respecting
international
relationships.
That is what our allies
wanto Trade, broader markets and
a flow of investment
are far more healthy than intergovernmental grants-in-aid.
It is, of course, important
that we
do actually
develop these mutually advantageous
substitutes
for "aid."
To do so is one of the major objectives
of the
Eisenhower Administration.
It is an essential
component of the
over-all
policies
already described.
gather

In the ways outlined,
the United States and its allies
strength
for the long-term defense of freedom.
VIIo

Our National

Purpose

We do not, of course, claim to have found some magic
formula that ensures against all forms of Communist successes.
Despoti;sm is entrenched
as never before.
It remains aggressive,
particularly
in Asiao
In Europe, its purposes
remain expansive,
as shown by Mr. Molotov's plans at the
Berlin Conference for Germany, Austria and all Europe.
However, time and fundamentals
will work for us, if only we
will let theme
The dibtators
face an impossible
task when they set
themselves to suppress,
over a vast area and for a long time,
the opportunities
which flow from freedom.
We can be sure
that 'there is going on, even within the Soviet empire, a
sile~t
test of strength
between the powerful rulers
and the
multitudes
of human beings.
Each individual
seems by himself to be helpless
in this struggleo
But tpeir aspirations
in the --ag-greg-ate make up a mighty force.
There are: some
-si.-g-:a-sthat the Sovi-et ruler-s -are, in terms of dom~stic
-policy, bending to some of the human desires
of their people.
There are promises of more food, more household goods, more
economic freedom.
This does not prove that the dictators
have
themselves been converted.
It is rather that they may be
dimly perceiving
that there are limits
to their power indefinitely
to suppress the human spirit.
That is a truth which should not be lost sight of as we
determine our own policies.
Our national
purpose is not merely
to survive in a world fraught with appalling
danger.
We want
to end this ·era of danger.
We shall not achieve that result
-merely by developing
a vast military
establishment.
That serves
indispensably
to defend us and to deter attack.
But the sword
of Damocles remains suspendedo
The way to end the peril peacefully is to demonstrate
that freedom produces not merely guns,
but the spiritual,
intellectual
and material
richness
that all
men want.
·
Such are the guiding principles
we invoke o We haNe-~canfidence that if our nation perseveres
in applying them, freedom
will -ag--ain win the upper hand in its age=long struggle· with
despotism,
and that the danger of war will steadily
recede.

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DEPARTMENT
OF EXTERNAL
AFFAIRS
t

DATE

March 17, 1954

PUBLICATION NoYo Times
Transcript

of Secretary; Du'lles Remarks on Defense
at His News Conferenceo
Special

to The New York Timeso

WASHINGTON~
March 16 -- Secretarz_ of Stat&amp;... Dulles
,.ilUthorize4.Jpr
direct publication
the following
section of the
transcript
of his news conference
today: bearing on the llaew
J&amp;.Q.K"in foreign affaj,rs and military policy:
Q o - 11/Ir
o -Secretary,
would you please
of, one, the concept of instant
retaliation;
consultation
with our allies,
and, three,
ment in war only by an act of Congress?

give us the reconciliation
two, the concept of
the concept of involve,,

A,, - I assume your reference
supposedly taken from an address

to instance
of mineo

Q. - And one by the Vice President

Saturday·

II

retaLiation"

is

of the Uni ted ..'8.tates

on

night~
.,

Ao - I cannot comment on what the Vice President
said, but
I will b~ glad to comment on what I saido
If you will read my
address of .Jano 12 - you will see what I advocated th·e.re was a
~capacity"
to retaliate
instantlyo
In no place did I say we would
retaliate
instantly,
although we might indeed retaliate
instantly
under conditions
that call for thato
The essential
thing is to
have the capacity
to retaliate
instantlyo.
It is lack of that
capacity which in my opinion accounted· for such disa_sters as
Pear'1 Harboro
If we had had the capacity
to retaliate
instantly,
in my opinion,
there would· have be~n no Pearl Harbor o · But it took ·
about four years to retaliate
against Tokyoo· I belteve we should.
have that capacity
to retaliate
instantlyo
1

'

,,

Facts

Will Be Weighed

. -~,.

...·-

.;

Now, the question of whether or not you retaliate
instantly
and where you retaliate
is a matter to be dealt with in
accordance with the facts of each situationo
I take it few would
have any question but what if there were an attack up.on,&gt;the United
States there would be instant
retaliationo
Yo.u have questions
of
retaliation
in the event of a violation
or an attack upon a member
of the North Atlantic
Treaty and upon oth~r countries
with whom
we have treaty relationshipso
·
. The question of circumstances
under which you retaliate,
where you retaliate,
how quickly you retaliate
is a matter which
has to be dealt with in the light of the facts of each particular
caseo One thing I want to make clear beyond the possibility
of
doubt is that I don°t believe you should tell the enemy in advance
just where, how, and when you plan to retaliateo
The whole
esse"iice of the program is that the action should be an action of
our choosing and he is not to know in advance what it is, and that
uncertainty
on his part is a key to the success of the policyo

Q.. - Sir, if I may pursue thato
You mentioned in the event
of an attack upon a member of the North Atlantic
Treaty Alliance

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you say what would then be instant
retaliationo
Does that mean
in the event the concept of involvement in war only by act of
Congress does not apply where there is an attack either upon the
United States or upon a member of alliance
of which we are a part?
Ao - It means·in all respects
the United States acts in
accordance with its constitutional
processeso
There is no way
in the world in which we can get away, or want to get away, or
intend to get away from our constitutional
processeso
How long
that will take, I don 9 t knowo It did not take very long after
Pearl Harbor to.get a declaration
of waro The trouble is it qid
not do any immediate good to get a declaration
of war because we
did not have the capacity
to do anything with ito

Defense

Treaties

Cited

I have never advocated,
and nobody else in the Administration
has advocated any departure
from constitutional
processeso
The North Atlantic
Treaty has provided that an attack against
one
of those states
shal1 be.deemed the same as an attack against
the
United Stateso
We have other treaties
with language which is not
precisely
the same as thato
Just what action by the Congress is
requir.ed is a matter to be decided in each case.
The fact that
you advocate hav1PS. a capacity
for instant
retaliation
does not
change your constitutional
processeso
It means we don't have to
wait for four years after somebody attacks
us before we are in a
position
eftectively
to hit backo
.
..,

Qo ~ Sir, does the fact that the Senate of the United States
has ratified
the North Atlantic
Alliance mean in the event of an
attack on an ally we could, within constitutional
procedures,
retaliate
against
that attack without action in the Congress?
A. - That is a matter which, as you know, was debated very
thoroughly
in the Congress and in the Senate; at the time that
treaty was ratified
I was in the Senateo
It is my opinion that
the provisions
of the treaty,
which state that an attack upon one
of the allies
is the same as an attack upon all -- or in other
words that an-attack
upon one of our allies
is the same as an
attack upon- the United States -- and that is also, I may say, in
the Rio pact -- that gives the President--,.;;_of_the United States the
same authority
to react as he would have if the United States were
a ttackedo
Qo - Thank you,

matter

siro

Ao - Whether he would use that authority
in every
for his discretion.,
In my opinion he has ito

case is a

Qo - He has the right?
A. - In my opinion he has the righto
That does not
necessarily
mean in all cases he would use the right without
consultation
by Congresso
It would depend on· the gravity of the
attack,
whether it was obvious the attack meant all-out
war, which
inevitably
would involve uso Many matters would .have to be
considered
and doubtless
would be considered
A¥ the President in
determining
whether or not to use his discretibnary
authorityo
Qo - Mro Secretary,
might I raise a question on another word
in the reference
to capacity
to retaliateo
The sentence ends:
"By means and at places of our choosing"o
Now, :Mro Pearson (Lester
E. Pearson, Canadian Secretary of State for External Affairs)
raised the question whether the word "our" meant the United States
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it meant the free

=

community of nationso

Ao - I think that the sentence is reasonably
you read the whole sentence if you have 'it before
Statement
Qo - Yes o

clearG
you?

Would

Read to Dulles

(Reading):

"The basic decision
great capacity
to retaliate,
of our choosing."
A.· - Does it

was to depend primarily
upon a
instantly,
by means and at place

use the word "free

world?''

Qo - There were two sentenceso
One is ' "The basic decision
was to depend primarily
upon a great capacity
to retaliate,
instantly,
by means and at places of our choosing."

A. - Is that
Ao· - Yes.

the whole sentence?
I would like

to have the first

part

of the

sentence.
Q. - The ·first
part
be changed, the Presldent
National Security Council,
This has been doneo The
upon a great capacity
to
places of our choosing."

Q. - I think

spoke about

is:
"But before military
plan,ning could
and his advisers,
as represented
by the
had to take some basic policy decisiono
basic decision
was to depend primarily
retaliate,
instantly,
by means and at

there was a sentence
the free worldo

in the text

there

which

Q.• - Not in that particular
paragraph.
There is an earlier
sentence to this part which says:
"The way to deter aggression
is for the free community to be willing and able to respond
vigorously
at places and with means of its own choosing."

A. - I thought

that

was what you were reading

from.

Qo - Which is it?
A. - Well, it·would
depend a good deal upon the circumstancesa
If there were an attack upon the United States and if we had the
capacity
to respond from our own bases, we would certainly
do thato
It is, I think, well known that the bases which we have in f~reign
countries
are in general not use~ble as a matter of law, and as
a practical
matter are not useablej
except with the consent of the
countries
where the bases are.
For example, the bases which are
available
to our Strategic
Air Force in Great Britain
are not
useable as a base of attack except with the consent of the British
Governmento
The same is true in general with all our foreign baseso
Therefore,
it is implicit
in our security
system that it operates
with the consent and acquiescence
of the other partners
who have
helped to provide the facilities
which create a sort of international
police systemo

Q. - If I might go on. There were two other words which
Mro Pearson raised a question
to in relation
to the point which
you have just made, the one being "instantly"
and the other
being ''means. 11 Does his mean the choosing of means would lie with
the free community or only with the United States?
Would there be
consultation?
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A. - Yes, there would certainly
be consultation
in most of
the cases that I can conceive ofo I might say that I wrote, some
weeks ago, an article
for Foreign Affairs,
which is in substance
a somewhat more polished,
I hope, restatement
of my speech which
was made before the Council of Foreign Relations,
which publishes
Foreign Affairso
That I did while I was flying back from Berlino
I understand
that is being released
for publication
tomorrow
in New York by the magazine Foreign Affairso
That will elaborate
to some- extent the thesis which I expressed
in my address of
Jan,, -I2o
qn another

(Mro Dulles'
article
page of this issue

in Foreign Affairs
is published
Qf The New York Timeso)
-

Q. - I would like to ask another question on this subjecto
There has been some discussion
and speculation
to the effect
that
reliance
on the capacity
to retaliate
instantly
as a major part
·~f your defensive
system would mean, in the case of a limited
challenge
in some remote area, you would have tpe choice either
of an all-out
war or no resistance
at allo
Ao - That is not a correct analysis
of the thesis at all•o
Let us take, for example, the declaration
which\Y(ijs-·made by :'the
sixteen powers in relation
to Korea, which is one of the illustrations
I made in my speecho
It has been stated there that if
aggression
should be resumed that the reaction
would not necessarily
be confined to Koreao Now what does that mean? That does
not mean necessarily
that there will be an effort made to drop
atomic bombs on Peiping or upon Moscowa It does mean that there
are areas of importance to the aggressors
in that vicinity
which
may have an industrial
or strategic
relationship
to the operation
which would no longer be what General MacArthur called a ''privileged
sanctuaryo 11
I cannot imagine any policy more futile
or more apt to
create war than to adopt the policy that you will only react at
the particular
place, and by the means the aggressor
selects 0
If anything would ever put a premium on aggressionj
it would be
thato
We want to take away that premium on aggressiono
Qo-- Mro Secretary,
while we are annoting that speech, there
was a reference
in there to a lesser
reliance
on local defense,
and some question has been raised as to whether that meant less
reliance
on defense by local,
indigenous
forces which we might
aid, for ~ample,
or less reliance
on local actions
by American
forces,
in local sectors
of the long front?
Ao - What I meant there, when I say "I", I might say that
that speech was not just a personal
speech,~was that if you have
the capacity
to strike an aggressor
at the points which will hurt
him, the deterrent
power~of that is sufficient
so that you do not
need to have local defense all around the 20,000-mile
perimeter
of the orbit of the Soviet world because your deterrent
power, to
a large extent,
reinforces
your local power· so that you do not
have to depend upon having in place forces-in-being
sufficient
to
stop an attack in its tracks anywhere where it could occur
because-you rely primarily
upon deterring
that attack,
not necessary upon being able to stop ito
f

With the Soviet-Chi~ese-Communist
world -800 9 000,000 people occupying a central
location;
with
land armies - it would be utt,erly
impossible
to have
all around that 20,ooo~mile orbit sufficient
to stop
might come at·whf)jever they might chose to make ita
have got to find some way whereby that type of local

with its
its vast
local defenses
any blow that
So that you
ground defense
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can be supplemeritedo
capacity
to retailiate
own c}1oosingo

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And the way to supplement it is to have a
at times, places,
and with methods of your

Now that doesn 9 t mean that you eliminate
wholly, by any
means, land forces -- it means you do not necessarily
make them
your primary reliance
because, as against
the kind of d~nger
which threatens,·
it is impossible
to match your potential
enemy
at all points on a basis of man-for-man,
gun-for-gun
and tankfo-r-tank.,
If we try to do that, we are going to go bus to
Qo -Mro Secretary,
if I may go back to one point of yours,
you said that in.Europe the ·President
had the same authority
under the NATOand Rio treaties
to retaliate
if the United States
was attaekedo
Well, last Wednesday he seemed to give a pledge
that he would not use that because he said that there would be no
involvement in war without Congressional
approvalo
Ao - But if the Senate
is a different
mattero

has given approval

in advance,

Qo - Well, the specific
case was Indo-Chinao
was what some of us were wondering about"

I think

that
that

Ao - Yes, there has been no Congressional
approval given in
advance of a war in Indo-China to which the United States would be
a partyo
He certainly
did not mean, I think, to imply that if the
United States was attacked,
and if Congress was not in session,
that he would wait until Congress was called back into session and
make a declaration
of war before we would react to a bombing attack
on New York City or Detroit
or Washington"
I think if any President
waited under those circumstances,
he would certainly
not be carrying
out the will of either
the Congress or the American peopleo
Qo - Sir, I 0 m a little
dense on this matter of Indo-China;
would you clarify
this for meo France is our ally in the North
Atlantic
alliance"
French troops are fighting
in Indo-Chinao
If
the Chinese Communists, with the regular forces from China, should
cross the frontier
into Indo-Ohina and attack the arme~ forces of
our ally, France, would our responsibilities
or obligations
under
the NATOalliance
come into force?
If not, why?
.

'

Ae - No, they will not because the NATOalliance
does not
apply to any part of the world except the North Atlantic
area as
it is defined in the treatyo
That definition
in the main is
confined to Europe, although it does cover a portion of French
North Africa -- I think Algeria is covered by ito But in the main,
it covers only the European area, including
a slight bit qf North
Africa and, of course, the Asiatic. portion of Turkeyo
Qo - Mro Secretary,

in the context

Ao - Now, I don 9 t mean to imply

--

that if the event you
of happened, we should do nothing"
I myself have said that
believed
that if that happened we should do somethingo
But
doesn°t mean we should do it without Congressional
approval
consultationo

spoke
I
that
or

.,.

Qc - In the context
of the answer you just gave about New
York, Detroit
or Chicago in referring
to an earlier
answer you
gave, would it be fair to say that the President
has the same
power to react in Europe in the case of a bombing of London or
Paris?

A. - Yes,

siro
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Q. - Sir, would it be accurate then to say that instant
retaliation
in effect is recognition
of the restraining
effect
of the possession
of atomic weapons -- the deterrent
power? Is
there a distinction
between instant
retaliation
and deterrent?
1t is a deterrento
A. - Yes, I have said that the capacity
to retaliate
fully and instantly
is, in my opinion,
the great deterrent,
that wh~n you are faced with the kind of potential
enemy,
with the assets that this potential
enemy has, I believe
deterrent
of that sort of the most effective
way there is
preventing
a waro

powerand
or
that a
of

Now I can imagine a di~ferent
world condition
where
reliance
might properly be placed upon other methods, and other
means, but, as far as the present world condition
is concerned,, ·
that capacity
to retaliate
powerfully
at places of our chosing
is, in my opinion, what will serve as a powerful deterrent
to waro
I believe that the original
Korean attack would not
have occurred if it had not been assumed either
that we would not
react at all, or if we did react only at the place and by the
means that the aggressors
choseo
I believ • that the Allied
sixteen-power
declaration,
which now operates
in the case of
Korea, will probably prevent any renewal of Communist aggression
thereo

Q. - Mro Secretary,
in order to clarify
something in my
own ~ind at least,
is. it your understanding
that the Presideq.t's
right to orde~ instant
retaliation
applies
only in the case o!
an attack either on the United States or another North Atlantic
Treaty power because of the un~erstanding
that Congress had given?
President's

Rights

The United States ~s two treaties
that I referred
to:
One is the so-called
R:io Treaty of Reciprocal
Assistance,
wh.i-ch
contains
the provision
that an attack upon one is the same as
an attack upon all; that sp.me provision
is found in the North
Atlantic
Treaty o -In my opinion -- whatever it ls worth as a
lawyer, and as one who was in the Senate whe.n the North At1iantlc
Treaty was adopted -- I believe that that authorizes,
is a: . ·.
consent in advance to, the President
reacting
against an attack
upon one of our allies
named in those treaties
in the same way
that he would be authorized
to react in the event of an attack
upon the Onited States itselfo
I repeat,
however, that the fact
that the President
has that constitutional
authority
as the
result
of·those
treaties
in my opinion does not necessarily.
mean
that he would use ito
He would use his discretion,
1 think, as
to whether or not to react instantly,
or whether to get either
a formal declaration
of war by the Congress, or whether to have
consultations
which satisfied
himself that that was the will o!
the Congresso
That would be discretlonary
_with the Presidento
Qo - Mro Secretary,
doesn 8 t the President
power under the United ~ations Charter itself?
A. - In my opinion,

have that

noo

Q. - Does he not have the power under the United

Constitution

same

as Commander in Chief?

States

A. - To do what?

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Q. - To take military
by Congresso

action

without

a declaration

of war

A. - Well, now you are raising
the question which, bas been
debated ever since our nation was formedo There are certainly
areas within which a President
can act -- certainly
areas in which
it has been customary for Presidents
to act -- withoat any
formal action by the Congress.
There is a twilight
zone there.
Nobody has ever attempted to define accurately
that twilight
zone• and I shall not attempt it hereo

-q~.- lrlr. Secretary, at one point there you said "ln connection with consultation
to consult in most cases that you can
conceive of. 11 Would you consider,
say, an attack upon the
northern part of Canada an attack upon the United States,
and
would. you consult with other NATOcountries
before you reacted
to that attack?
Q•. - I do not think that it J;ij wise or appropriate
to try to
answer a hypothetical
question of·'that
sort.
In the first
place,
it is impossible to determine in advance what all of the surrounding circumstances
are, and it would certainly
also not be
advisable
to give any fore-knowledge
to a potential
enemy as to
whether or not he would have any time between his attack and
having ..to,. ~uffer the consequences of 1t.

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