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MESSAGE

ORIGIN
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Security Classification

FROM: THE CANADIANAMBASSADOR
TO THE UNITED STATE,
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UNCLASSIFIED

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TO: THE SECRETARY
OF STATEFOR EXTERNAL
AFFAIRS,CANADA

Priority

System

EN CLAIR

No. WA-2649

Date

November 17 • 1953.

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Departmental
Circulation

MINISTER
UNDER/SEC
0/UNDER/SEC

,,.,,.

Reference:

'

Subject:

NUNDER/SEC'S

POL/CO-ORD1 N
SECTION

U.N. DIV.

Attention:·

Herbert Brownell,
following
letter dated
before the International
noon, Begins:
Dear General

~1---1

.,___

··' •••.. ..:..• s ~O.i
·11

Mr. L. Rasm1nsky.
Attorney General, released
the
February- 1, 1946, from Hoover,
Security
Commission this after-

Vaughan:

As of interest
to the President
and you~ I am
attaching
a detailed
memorandum hereto concerning
Harry
Dexter White, Assistant
Secretary
of the United States
Treasury· Department.

9
e----

As you are aware, the name of Harry Dexter White
has been sent to Congress by the President
for confi1~na)ote-;--'----=--..,.,
tion of his appointment
as one of the two United States
==~~1::,'wiP.il''=fli;,9~53~=1
delegates
on the International
Monetary Fund under the
ences
Bretton Woods Agreement.
In view of this fact,
the
interest
expressed by the President
and you 1n matters
L -o~
k
of this nature,
and the seriousness
of the charges against
.,..,,sm1ns Y,
Wbi te in the attachment•
I have made every effort
in
Bank of Canada.preparing
this memorandum to cover all possible
ram1f5.cat1ons.
As will be observed,
information
has come to the
attention
of this Bureau charging White as being a valuable
adjunct
to an underground
Soviet espionage
organization
operating
in Washington,
D.C. Material
which came into
his possession
as a result
of his official
capacity
allegedly
was made available
through intermediaries
to
Nathan Gregory Silverma.ster,
his ,rife, Helen Witte
Silvermaster,
and William Ludwig Ulmann.
Both Silvermaster
and Ulmann are employees of the United States Treasury
Department,
reportedly
directly
under the supervision
of
'Whi~.
.

Information
and documents originating
in the Treasury
Department were either
passed on in substance
or photographed
by Ulmann in a well-equipped
laboratory
in the basement
of the Silvermaater
home. Following this step, the
material
vaa taken to New York City by courier
and made
,::-="'r-"""•&amp;ilable
to Jacob it. Goloo, until the till:3 ot b1o doatll on
Uovom'ber 27 • 194:,. Golos, a know Sovf.Gt agent, dol1w:red
.CL
this material
to an individual
tentatively
l4entlfle4
ae
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R,..1i.,;o...i,r"qa11t
Ov'1cimtan.
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0vak1mian you v1ll recall was anested
some years ago
as an unregistered
agent of the Soviet Government and
subsequently
by special arrangements with the Department
of State, vas permitted to return to the USSR.
After the departure
of Gaik Ov·ak1m1an, Golos delivered his material
to an individual
who has been tentatively identified
as Dr. Abraham Benedict Weinstein.
Subsequent to the death of Golos, the courier handling
material received from the Silvermasters
and Ulmann
delivered
it through an unidentified
individual
to Anatole
Borisovich Gromov, who until December 7, 1945, was ussigneo
as First Secretary of the Soviet Embassy, Washington
D.C., when he returned
to the USSR, Gromov had previously
been under suspicion as the successor to Vassili Zubilin,
reported head of the NKVD in North America, who returned
to Moscow in the late summer of 1944. This whole network
has been under intensive
investigation
since November
1945, and it is the results
of these efforts
that I am
now able to make available
to you.
I also feel that it is incumbent upon me at this
time to bring to your attention
an additional
fact&lt;&gt;r
which has originated
with sources available
to this
·
\ bureau in Canada.
It is reported that the British and Canadian delegates on the International
Monetary Fund may possibly
nominate and support White for the post of president
of
the International
Bank, or as executive director
of'
the International
Monetary Fund. The conclusion ia
expressed ·that assuming this backing is forthcoming the
United States acquiescence,
if not concurrence,
resulting,
White's nomination to this highly important post would
be assured.
It is further c011DDentedby my Canadian.
source that if White 1s placed in either of these pc,s1t1ons
he would have the power to influence
to a great degree
deliberations
on all international
financial
ar:rangements.
This source, which is apparently
aware of at least f!Ome
of the charges incorporated
in the attached memorandum
against White, commented that the loyalty of White must
be assured, particularly
1n view of the fact that the
USSR has not ratified
the Bretton Woods Agreement.
Fear
vas expressed that facts might come. to light in the
future throwing some sinister
accusations
at White and
thereby jeopardize
the successful
operation of these,
important international
financial
institutions.
I thought you would be particularly
interested
in
the above CO!lllnentswhich originated
with sources highplaced in the Canadian Government, on the subject e.t hand.
Ends.

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MESSAGEFORM

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File

.

No,

OUTGOING.

FROM:THE SECRETARY
OF STATEFOR EXTERNAL
AFFAIRS, CANADA
THE CANADIANAMBASSADOR
TO: ..............................................
WASHINGTON
...........................................................

.
...................

For Conmunications

November 18,

CYPHER

EN·CLAIR

. ...................

•·•.

.

·.·.......... ·.·................

Date

Mess age To Be Sent

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'

Section

.

Only

1953

AUT01--~

CODE
CYPHER

Priority

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HarrJ

SUBJECT:

a Canadian
(Name Typed)

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in the

letter

Vaughan from J.

Edgar

Hoover,

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November 17 •. The letter

refers

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.

available

to this

and again

to "sources

high

Canada"
Canadian

1.
. the
I ...........................
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the Senate

to "sources

Government",

suitability

1946

text

before

Subcommittee

t•

of February·l,

which was made public

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I
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.

the references

source

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ORIGINATOR

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of

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bureau.in
placed

as having

raised

of Harry Dexter

White

in the

doubts
for

about

appoint-

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,-u:if."s.f.A.

ment t~ the

International

letter

states

also

that

aware of at least

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the

Fund.

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11

source

is apparently

some of the charges •••. against

White".
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Copies Referred

.

other

government

concerned

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check

has

departments

failed

correspondence

of our files

with

so far

who might

the United
of White,

whatever

appointment.

at a loss
Hoever

t•

the

understand

States

of

have peen

to disclose

on the appointment
about

and those

any
authorities

or any representations
We are

the references

therefore
in the

letter.

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Will

State

Department

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that

endeavour

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letter,

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the

concern

on this

matter,

to obtain

to in the Hoover
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is being

at

raised

reference

and request

f'or us as quickly

and it

may .Pe abi~.-te

in Parliament

eey. that

this

statements

is essential

sources

letter.

own information,

to the

the

of' the

the name or names of' the

4.

with

about

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they

referred

you please

that
an inqni

a question
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in the
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Hoover

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                    <text>OUTGOING
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regard

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directed

should

to the letter

committee

yesterday

effect

that

appointment

statement

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to make with

from J. Edgar Hoover,

read to the United
by attorney

States
general

director
security

Brownell

comments were made regarding

of Harry Dexter

like

.

to the Prime Minister.

any clarifying

of the F,B.I.,

.

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a question

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the
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question

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to direct
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to the following

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.........

Harry Dexter White.,

to

the

White to a position

on

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the international
placed

monetary

in the Canadian

Minister

replied

fund by "sources

government"?",

'

highly

the Prime

as follows:

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I understood

this

was a

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letter
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from Mr. Hoover,

existence-of
Copies

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about the

such a letter

until

I saw the report

in

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Dr. MacKay.
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the newspapers.
my

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colleague,

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the Secretary

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of State

with

for External

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out in any inquiry

before

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of congress

references

was anything,

to what must have been,

confidential

Canadian official

information

to a United

States

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mediately

instituted

such communication
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are still
that

if there

anything

any such communication.
continuing

were im-

had been any

that

would enable

But the inquiries

and if and when we do find

would tend to confirm,

to make a positive

official.

and how and when it had been made.

far we have not discovered

us to·trace

communicated by a

proceedings

to ascertain

if there

denial,

communicated to the House.

anything

or to put us in a position
that
11 •

information

will

be

Ends.

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Security Classification

FROM: TJ;iE CANADIANAMBASSADOR
TO THE

PERSONAL
ANDSECRET

UNITEDSTATES,

File No,
TO: THE SECRETARY
01' STATEFOR EXTERNAi.AFFAiRS,CANADA

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Priority

CYPHER-AUTO

IMPORTANT
Departmentul

No. WA-2664

Date

November 19, 1953.

--

Reference: My WA-2663 of November 19, 1953.

Circulation

MINISTER
UNDER/SEC
0/UNDER/SEC
NUNDER/SEC'S

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Subject.: Harry Dexter

Following for
secretary,
Begins:

Wh:lte - Reference
the Minister

to "Canadian

and the Acting

Sources .."

Under-

At the same meeting with.Bedell
Smith I rais~d
again t;he question
taken up by Lepan yesterday
with Bonbright,
namely, tne reference
to Canadian sources in the
Harry De;cter White hearing'/.
This I said had not improved
the chances of .co-operation
in the Gouzenko matt(!)1"o Canadian authorH;ies
we,re, to put it mildly,
surprised
that
these references
should have been made without any
prior consultation
or even any notice whatsoever.
It was
particularly
shoclting to ua that these rei'erences
should
have been·made by the Head of' the Federal Bl.weau of Investigation.
Furthermore,
our searoll at Ottawa had so f'a:r
failed to uncover the source to which reference
had been
made. Bedell Smith was aware, of course, that our enquiry
to th.e State Depar.tment had been made yesterday.
and I
_ read him ths Prime Minister's
reply to Mr. Die f en baker.

2.
Bedell S~ith's
reaction was exceedingly
frank.
He
referred
to the purely "political"
origi.n and nature of recent activities
in ·this whole .field,
And he made it clea;.•
to me that he was person.ttlly ver-y much opposed to the :
:l.ni.tiatives
which h.ad been taken by the admin'.l.stration.
He also indicated
that ·!;here wai: division
of opinion on
the au'bject in the administration
and that strenuous effort!!
had been made by the Secretary
of State and himself, but
without success,
to eliminate
certain
features
of the
evidence given by Brownell whicb. would at'f'ect international
relationships
(references
to the Soviet Embassy here).·
To some extent the efforts
to keep President
Eisenhower
above the dust and dirt had succeeded.

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_

3.
Bedell Smit!-&gt;.had not given consideration
to t1'le
references
to Canada in Hoover's letter.
Commenting upon
them, however, he said that it m.ust be remembered that J.
Edgar l!oover was a powe1' unto himselt", that he would never
"go out on a limb" by divulging on the one hand or withholding on the other in!'ormation which he thought might
b~ to his own political
advantage and that or. the F,B.I.
Th.e State Department t'i'ould, of' course,
communicate w'.Lth the
-'·-:F,B,I.
at once, .for-warding our enquiry and expressing
the
, "surprise"
of Canacli..ln authorities
that such public 1•etez•ences had been made without any prior notice or consultation
0

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with us. However, no very satisfactory
likely in the present atmosphere.

result

was

4.

Of course, I made the point that it was dif:f'icult,
indeed impossible,
for the Canadian Government to deal with
half a dozen or more different
manifestations
of the United
States and that our only proper channel for complaint and
communication was the State Depa,:,tment itself,
Bedell
Smith fully appreciates
this, as indeed do others in the
s·tate Department with whom we deal.
Livingston MeJ~chant
was present throughout the interview.

5,
With regard to Gouzenko, we will forward the second
request of the sub-committee as soon as it is received;
with regard to the enquiry of the F.B.I.,
we will, of
course, inform you immediately there is any further news.
6.
In view of the exceedingly frank and private nature
of some of the remarks made to me by Bedell Smith, I
would be grateful
it only the minimum circulatt&gt;n were
given to this
telegram.
Ends"

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4CTINGUNDER-SECRETARY
Subject,

Interviews

by

'United States

tgencies of

.csnndianc1t1gensin ca.rtadit
.

.

A• you know, on December l in the nouse Mr.
Knowles asked a aueat1on of Mr.· Pearson regarding interviews by United states agencies of Canadian citizenc
in csnada. The qUestion, and Mr. Pearson's in.terim
answer, were all follows;
:-·

,I1·

-~EXTERNAL

AFFAIRS

CANADIAN CITIZENS INTERVIEWED
BY UNITED_
j STATES FEDERAL B~REAU OF INVESTIGATION

'!'l'
I

•

, On the orders of the day:
· Mr. Stanley
Knowles
(Winnipeg
North i
Centre): Mr. Speaker, I should like to direct :
a question to the Secretary of State for E~'ternal Affairs. Have there been any instances,
'. other than in the case of Igor Gquzenko of l·
the F.B.I. or any other United States agency,
· interviewing
Canadian
citiz.ens in Canada I
; with respect to loyalty investigations
in the f
United States?
Hon. L. B. Pearson (Secretary of Staie for
External Affairs): I do, not know of any
'i\hstances similar to the one which the honf: 1
entleman has in mind, .but I shall look int ; :
.-( e matter, and if there is anything to repor: 1
I shall make a report at a later date.

i

I

j

1

1

2.

Mr. Pearson asked me 'to look into

draf't n reply.

thin

and

3.

In the meantime Mr. Knowles told U# privately
that hilt was eoncttrned particula.rly
about a cane where
the F.B.I. had interviewed a man named Ulen 1n TorodD.
Mr. Knowles felt that this was at least a potential
breach of civil liberties
and of Canadian sovereignty,
and said with evident npproval tha.t Ulen had coEllllentod
to the F.B.I. agents, "So you have taken over Canada
a.t lasttt, and had refused to give them any information.
In the course of preparation of a reply,
the Minister, Mr. Crean and.I each d!scusned tho
question with Mr. Knowles on ~arious occasions. We.
also discusnod the matter with Commissioner Nicholson

4.

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and Superintendent

Lemieux ot the R.c.M.P.

~.
Commissioner Nicholson prepared a draft
roplJ which he anticipated would be given out by Mr.
Oorson rather than by Mr. Pearson. However, Mr.
·
Garson preferred that Mr. Pearson should. reply, since
the question was.directed to him. Mr. Knowles also
regarded the matter ee essentially
one c,f_CanadianUnited States r.elatione 1 and therefor~ of. foreign
policy rather than r;;erezy administrative
police
measures.

6.

that it was
rep~ in
certain particulars
and l diseusaod possible red.rafts
with Colll!ll11Ht1oner?tieholeon.
Com!!!1Rs1oner Nicholson
told me that it could net be .said that in, .f!1J.casos
where en F.B.l. agent interviewed a canadlan 1n Canada
e ropresentetive
of tho n.c.M.P.was present. 'l'he
most he could say was that this was nomanll,xthe case.
de,d:rabl.e

'i'ho Minister

to shorten

a~ Mr.Garson

an&lt;! tighten

telt

the draft

?.
In the ~articular
case to which :itnowles
had r~ferredt the R.C.M.P. told us that in 1950 in
Toronto, t-wo F.n.r. agents had visited tllen in his
flat by spacial al'rengement with the R.C.M.P., and
acoompan1et1 by an R.C.M.P. Inspector.
The F.B.I.
wished to interview Allen .regarding the possibility

o.r

laying a perjury charge against Remington (a former
senior official
of the United States Co!1119rceDepartment,
alleged to have been a Soviet agentt the case was
in several respects annlegous to th11t of !llger Hiss).
We were given to understand that the perjury charge
related to something Remington had said 1n a Congressional
loyalty .investigation,
but the R.C.M.P. later suggested
that the charge might relate to a stotement Remington .
had made in a loyalty investigation
conducted by the
Executive.
apparently the F.B.I. hoped that Ulen
could testify that he had seen Re1111ngton
on a certain
date in Mexico, whereas Remington had denied on oath
that he had been 1n Mexico at that time.

8.

. In general, the rt.C.M.P. told us that F.B.I.
1ntarrogat1ons ot Canadians in Canada, always arranged
vith R.C.M.P. approval, avqraged about 12 to 15 a year •

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- 3·Moet ot these were purely criminal,

and th• Ulen case

might well be tho only one relating
to a loyalty
investigation,
though they could not be sure ot this

since thoil' records 0£ these matters ware not filed·
according to the nature 0£ the charge Which the F.B.I.
contemplated lay1~.
The ~rrangemonts are or .eourae
tully reciprocal between the F.a.1. and the n.c.M.P.,
and Nicholson said they are of particular value to the
R.C.M.P.
XXX

9.

Mr. Knovles ir ..sil'Jted on a reply

10.

'lhe R.C.M.P. •md.erstandably deprecated

to his

quention, although he agreed to wait until we were
·prepared to give it.
public
l'4!1lat1onsvitb the
and p11rt1cularly hoped that there would be no

d1scuso1on or their

F.B.I.,

confide-nt1al

discussion
or 1no.1vidu111cases• since th1s would be
a bad preced.ent and might well. J.ead to less i.'ltimate
and frank relations
betvoen the tvo police forces •
.X XX

ll.

When the Minister lett

tor the North 4tlant1c

Council meeting 1n Paris on December 8, he had not had

tho opportunity to mako a further statcmez,t in l:he
House and asked me to discuas the question with Mr.
Garson Whot:dght wish to anrrwer since the a.c.M.P.
is responsible to him.

Mr. Onrson asked :meto explain the s1tu.at1on

12.

. 1n .:tonfidence to Mr. Knowlos, end. to aee whether he
.would not bo satisfied without a pub11o reply or, it

there vero a reply,

in genorul torus,
Ulen

case.

then one very brief

and morely

w1thot1t any referonce at all to the
· ·

Mr. Knowles said that he thought th&amp;re was
an 1roJ)Ortant issue or p1.'inCiple involved. He had discussed the matter with Mr, Coldwell, who was also of
thin vtev. In the circumstances he felt he must ask
tor a reply 1n the House, but would accept a very
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brief one. It, however,,here were no-reference to
the .Ulen case, then Mr. Knowles said that he might
have to ask a supplementary about it:
but 1f there
were an. allusion to this caae 1n general terms and
without ident1f'1cat1on to make it clear that 1n his
question he was not merely "fishing", then Mr. Knowles
said that be would be satisfied,
and he prol'llised that
he would not follow the matter up.in any way. I
understood him to promise that there would be no
supplementaries.

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I reported all this to Ml". Garson, who
decided to make .a short statement in the House, nnd
asked me to draft it.
I did therefore, draft a
statement, but since the ma.t!er, though one involving
external affairs• ossentiall7_concernod n.c.M.P.
activities,
I had tho dratt statement sent to Collllllissionor
Nicholson, with the request that ho should forward
it, it he approved, and with any changes ho felt
desirable, to Mr. Garson. Nicholson approved the
draft, with the addition of a nGWsentence to paragraph 4 ('Which was a clear 1mprov,ment) •

15.
On Dec:ember 16 Mr. Garson ga~e this statement 1n the House. 'l'here wore then supplementary
questions trom Mr. Knowles md Mr. Coldwell. The
· statement and subsequent exchange was as follows•

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te from
what the pa iamentary assistan said. Mr. Speaker.
Order.
Wo
losing time? If
e quotati
is not exact it
has been modified,
d th one that has been
made today must be ac pted.

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Mr. Z_apli.tny: 0
a que ion of privilege,
the Parbamentar
Assistan,t fu,tl_le Minister of
Ag~iculture~a
contradicted "the statement
which I mad in the course ,of ~king him a
question.
ay I refer him to p\~e 644 of
Hansard 9{ December 7, the last lih-e of his
reply, wnich is as follows:
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of review

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on Saturday

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to the matter.

to the board

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AFFAIRS

CANADIAN CITIZENS INTERVIEWED
BY UNITED
STATES FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

On the orders of th~ day:
Hon. Stuart S. Garson (Minister of Justice):
On December I, the hon. member for Winnipeg North Centre (Mr. Knowles) dir€:cted a
question to the Secretary of State for External
Affairs (Mr. Pearson).
The question asked
whether there ·had been any instances 1 other
than in the case of Igor Gouzenko, of the
~.B.I.. or. any other United States agency
mterv1ewmg
.Canadian -citizens in Canada
with respect to loyalty investigations
in the
United States.
My colleague, the Secretary of States for
External Affairs, replied at once that he did
not_ know of any instances siffiilar to the one
which the hon. gentleman has in mind but
he promised that the matter would be 1doked
into and that if there were anything to r-eport
the report would be made at a later date.
He then discussed this matter with me as the
minister in charge of the Royal Canadian
Mounted Police and requested me to reply
to the -'question of the hon. member for
Winnipeg North Centre in due course. I have
accordingly had the_ matter carefully examined and would reply as follows: If the hon.
member for Winnipeg North Centre is referring to formal inquiries by congressional committee_s or agents r~presenting
congressional
. committees, I can assure him that we have
_) Iio knowledge of any such occurrences, other
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one which I had in mind \:hen
I asked 'my
question on Decembe-r 1. I agree with him
that we should not discuss these names in
public. Obviously that would 'be following
I the very practice to which I take objection.
i My question is this. May we take it that the
Canadian governm,ent would not look with
, approval on the F.B.I. coming into Canada
to question Canadian citizens on behalf of
congressional inquiries, apart from such cases
as that of Igor Gouzenko, where special arrangements have been made?
Mr. Stick: Why not?
Mr. Garson: I think that I would not wish
to add anyth_ing to the statement which I have
just read because it covers the very point to
which my hon. friend is Uow referring, and
covers it very clearly. The statement was
drafted with the intent that it would be
1
fully complete, and if my hon. friend will
"examine it he will find that it is complete.
If he wishes to ask any further
questions
after reading the statement_ he might address
them to me tomorrow.
Some hon. Members: Tomorrow?
Mr. Coldwell:
The minister
spoke of
criminal charges. Did those criminal charges
arise out of the congressional
investigation
into this man's activities?
In other_ words,
was this one of those perjury cases or ..not?
Mr. Garson: I do ' not think I can pretend
to give an accurate answer to that without
checking back and getting the information
'from the police officials. My hon. friend will .
appreciate
that everything
I say here is
hearsay. I have to get information from them
; before I can give it here.
Mr. Coldwell: Will the hon. gentleman get
• that information?
Mr. Garson: Yes; I have no objection.
'Mr. Coldwell:

It bears on the question

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That afternoon
ma that be.had
been aurprised by the supplementaries rrom Knowles ·
and Coldwell, in view ot Knowles' undertaking to me.
However, in order to set tho press straight,
he
wondered whether it would be oppropr1ate.for
him to
mako a .stateim,nt when the House resWDed at 8 o•elock
that evening (this was the last day before the
Christmas recess) in reply to Mr. Knowles• supple•
mentaey question.
Mr. G1n•sonwondered whether it
.would.be appropriate to say that the Canadian Govern•·
mont would not look with approval on the F.B.I. coming
into Cane4a to question Canadian citizens on. behalf of
Congressional enqu1r.1os, apart from m.i.cheasel'! as that
of OQuzenkowhore. spociat arrangements had. boen made.

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any categoric answer, one way or the other.
I suggested
that if the Government announced that it would.not
look with approval on the F.B.I. coming into Canada in
the circUtnatences Knowles envisaged, this would appear
to preclude what, from our ;point of view, 1«0uld have
been a ~eh more normal procedure tor tho United Staten
to have tollowed when Senator Jenner requested an
interview with Gouzerui:o. We would have preferred to
be asked tor permission to have the F.B.I. interview
OQuzenko, rather than that members ot the Congressional
Committee itself should be allowed to come to Canada
to do so. On the other hand, a OQvornment statement
answering Knowles• question the other way would imply
a blanket approval in advance. Either course would
.almost certainly attract a lot of comment 1n the United
States as well as the Canedian press. Th• wiser course
would probably be to consider each ca.se on its own
merits and not to commit ourselves in advance one way
or the other.
I urged that it,en answor must be givon
1n the House1 it should. be done only after there was
time for full. considera.tion by. the R.C.M.P. and our- . ,
selv,n, •.

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Mr. Garson agreed not to give any answer to
Knowles:that evening. He undertook to discuss the
matter privately with Knowles and Coldwell.
1.9.
Tho next 1?10rningKnowles phoned me. Ho soid
he owed 1110 en apology for what, he suggested., might

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well appear to be a breach of his understanding vith
me regarding supplementaries.
He had intended his
commitment to mean that there would be no "embarrass1ng
supplementaries 1n general, and no follow.up on the
Allen case in particular.
He said that on this latter
·point he had hicselt been surprised when Coldwell
asked a supplementary about the (llen case. Mr.
Knowles also said that he had not realized that his
own supplementary qUest:l.on to Mr. Garson could be
embarrassing to EXternal A.t'ta1rs, but he now tully
appreciated that it could well be. He had.t~eretore
told Mr. Garson that be would. not expect any rurther
reply.
Mr. Coldwell hod alao, Mr. Knowles o.dded, told
Mr. Garson that no replf 1n th~ Bouse would be needed.

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Arnold Smith

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FROM: THE SECRETARY
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SUBJECT:

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bn dolivored

ORIGINATOR

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is the text of a Note to

to the 8tato Department.

Begirula

"Tho Conadinn 41:lbasal'ldor proncnts

compliments to tho Bocretary
instructions

of State

his

and on

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InvestigatiOns
in Canada into subv~rsive
moveoents and into Soviet e2pionace activities
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or alleged activ1t1os 1n Canada, 1ometimcs
p:roduoo evidence which my bear directly upon

Internal

similar

(Signature)

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S.S.E.A. - U.S.S.E.A.

activities

or alleged

the United states

or relating

citizenss

Mr. Hecinoy
Mr. Crean

nature

siJ:dlarl.y,

Done, ..••

activities

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reciprocal

of this

cay produce

to activities

by Canadian citizens,

take plnco in Canada.

in

to United Ctates

investigations

in tho United ftates

evidence relating

activities

or alleged
or -.mich

In accordonee with

ar:ransernent:, Vhich hcvo long existed.
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between the appropriate

oxocutivo.agoncios

Cen,dian and tfnited 6tetos

obt11.ined b7 one or those

lating

to cit1zfJno ct or act1v1t1oe

sncurity
3.

or thin

Govornmcmtc, ovidenoe

nature

are .rlthout

of the

soeurity

delay made available

agencios re-

1n the other

country

to the appropriato

sorvico of that other country.

, llcwevor, investigations

art1 carried

re&gt;lating to internal

out 1n tl",o United Staten

security

not only by tho

Exocuti;re Bra.'1ct of thn Uhitcd Statl'Js Govorimont but
by co:m:ittoes ·or sub-committees

Congrosn.

It in, ot course,

Govornoent itsalf
loyalty

the policy of thfi Crmadian

to deal with ovidmce

of Canadian eitizenn

territory.

of thl! United States
relntinr:

and to activities

!n accorda11nt1with thio principle,

Canod1an Governnent

to the

on Canadian
the

has thn honour to requ.est that

the

__verbn~im. record. of a_n!,teatimony Which has been tnlccm or
11 which may be taken by tho.Un1t~d Dtates Congross, in
t'Xecutive 1e1u11ona or otho-rwise, vhich rot'ers to canadinn
citizens

in connection with nllegod. Soviet espiona5e,

to nct1v.1t1~s on Canadian

territory

allegocl' soviet

should be made available

delay

that

r~lntion

to

without

to the Canadian Oovornt1ont fo1· extir.iinntion and

whatever
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espionage,

vith

or

action aay bo nppropr1nte.

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The C£nudicn Govern:nent woUld opprec1ate

such rocordl'J will

bo :c,ndc availabl.e

to maintain tho most effective

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con1'1.mat1on

to it in order ·

end nppropr1nto proceduros

for dealing 1'1th evidence regarding

the internal

soourity

of the two coWltries.n
MESSAGE EJms.

SECRETARY 01•' OTATJ-}FOrl EXTERNI\L AF.ri\lRS

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United State
ations • R

n ressional
to Canadians

I
Attached for consideration
which might be sent to the State
covering telegram of instructions,
Washington.

is a draft of a note
Department, ·and of a
to our Embassy in
·
,

2.
As you will see, the note is designed to establish
two principles
regarding congressional
investigations
into
alleged subversive end espionage activities:
•
(i)

that congressional
committees ere not
an appropriate forum for the conduct
of such investigations
into activities
in Canada, or by Canadian citizens;

(ii)

.that any evidence which does come to
light on these.matters
in the course
of investigation
by congressional
committees should be passed on to the
Canadian Government to follow up.

3.
rather
ere, I
specific
on the

The draft attempts to base itself
on general· principle
than on the specific Bentley or Skelton cases •. There
think, obvious advantages in a general epproech,.as
a
approach could be made to appear as if we were
defensive.

4.
However, this general approach makes almost inevitable
some reference,
at least in general terms, to reciprocal
arrangements between the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and
The Federal Bureau of Investigation.
I believe these have
hitherto never been publicly mentioned.
In any case, you
might wish the text of the note to be discussed with the
Royal Canadian Mounted Police, and with Mr. Garson, before
transmission.
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alternative
approach which (despite the
of one or two days involved) might be-preferable,

delay
wou.ld
be to avoid sending any separate note on this matter
to the State Department, and merely to include an
appropriate request in the note which we shall have to
send shortly.transmitting
the record of the recent
Gouzenko interview.
This could.hardly be interpreted
by the press as anything but a normal request for
recipropity,
and,wou.ld thus not be ·so open to the danger
of stirring
up speculation.
An

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6.
If this latter
course is adopted, the note conveying
our decision on publication
of the Gouzenko record, could
include a paragraph along the following lines:
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"The Canadian Government expects that. if
investigations
into subversive or espionage
activities
by United States congressional
committees,"'whether in executive session
or otherwise,Yshould produce any evidence
which relates to activities
or alleged
activities
iri Canada or by Canadians, the
United States Government will ensure that
verbatim transcripts
of such evidence are
passed without delay to the Canadian
Government for such action as may be
appropriate.
The Canadian Embassy would
appreciate confirmation that this principle
is recognized by the competent organs of
the United States Government."

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Mr. Heeney
Mr. Crean

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Mr._creen

United stete.s

Investisetions

Oonsressionel
to C:enediens

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As you. know I eent·e memorandwnon this
s11bJect to the Minister earlier
today (with
copies to Mr. Heeney and to you). This
memorendwnwas
on the lines of ou d1sc11emon.
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'rbie erternoon, while you were at another
meeting,, the J.!1nister discussed the mstter w1th

Hr. Heeney end .mys&amp;lt, and agreed wlth the

suggestion ln per.egraphs 6 end ,6 of the earlier
,memorendW!l. .It 1a, there:rore,
,envisaged that
the note to be sent to thti State Department on
the Oo11zenko transcript,
incl11de a paragraph
along the lines .set out in pel'agreph 6 of the
memorendwn..
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We ehould,

,

of course, _4isou.ss with Mr. Garson

and the Royal Canadian Mounted ,olice,
the draft
.note to the State Department on the Gouzenko
transcript,
including the above mentioned psregreph.

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F"OLLOWING.OUR PHONE CONVERSATIONAT NOON TODAY,I CALLED ON ROSERT
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THAT WE WOULDEXPECT THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEEWDULD NOT PUBJ.,ISH THIS
NAME.,ORTHE NAMES OF ANY OTHER CANA.DIANS,ANDTHAT IF THERt ARE ANY
FURTHER NAMES WHICH HAVE NOT ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED'PUBLICLY,THE INFO
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DEALT WITH IN CANADA IN ACCORDANCEWITH THE REQUESTS .WHICH WE HAVE
MADE REPEATEDLY.TH.IS WAS THE PROC_EDURER~FERRED iO MOST REC,!cNTLYIN
PARAS 2 AND 3 OF OUR NOTE OF APR10.
3.IN

MAKING THIS POINT WITH SPECIFIC

REF TO THE NAME OF THE CANADIAN

OFFICIAL MENT! ONfD IN THE TS URU TEST IMONY, I MADE IT CLEAR THAT THIS
REQUEST DID NOT AFFECT THE VIEW PREVIOUSLY TRANS:1ITTED T-0 THE STATE
DEPT THAT SO F~-.RAS YOUR OWNNAME IS CONCtRNED,YOU WOULDNOT WISH ME
TO TAKE ANY ACTION TO SUGGEST THAT THE STATE DEPT SHOULD T(IKE ANY
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MOMENTWAS NOT OPPORTUNE1'0 PRESS THE SUBC,.OMMITTEE,AND
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ANDLISTER AGREED,HOWEVER,THAT
OURREQUESTWITHREF TO
THE SPECIFIC CASt ARISING OUT6F THE TSURUHEARING~WOULD
BE BROUGHT
BY THE STATEDEPT TO THE ATTENT-ION
OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE
AS A MATTER
OF URGENCY,
5,I ALSOTOOKTHE OCCASIONTO SUGGESTTHAT'T~E STATE.DEPT SHOULD
SENDUS AS SOONAS POSSIBLE AT LEASTAN INTERIMREPLYTO OURNOTE
OF APR10 IN AS FORTHCOMING
TERMSAS POSSIBLE.MURPHY
INDICATEDTHAT
THIS WASIN THE MILL,ANDTHATHE HOPES.TO BE ABLETO GIVE US SOMETHING
TODAYOR TOMORROW,
6,BOTH MURPHY
ANDLrsn;R WERECONCERNED
AT THE POSSIBILITY OF THE
NORMAN
CASE.AND ITS REPERCUSSIONS
BECOMING
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CANADA,WITH
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THATTHEFIR£S OF CONTROVERSY
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HERE.I TOLDTHEMFRANKLY
THATIT WASALREADY
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SERIOUSPUBLIC CONTROVERSY
IN CANADA
WHICHMADEIT ALL THE MORE
IMPORTANT
FOR THE USA ADMINISTRATION
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7, SUBSEQUENTLY
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IN A POSITION TO USE PUBLICLYALL MATERIAL
MADEAVAILABLETo THE
CANADIAN
AUTH:ORITIE;S
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CONCERNING
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THEFOLLOWINGIS 'lHE TEXT OF AN INTERIMREP.LYTO.THE NOTE
OF APRIL 10 FROMTHE CANADIAN
AMBASSADOR
TO THEU S,
SECRETARYOF STATE. THE REP!-,_!t
DATED.APRIL18,
SIGNED
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agencies,

in the exchange of information,

in your Note, has assisted
the security

substa~tially

to the attention
your Goverament's
which, as stated
in maintainillg

of our two countries,
The matt.er will be pursued vigoro~sly

and the

Department will be in touch with your Embassy,
Accept, Excellency,
of m:y highest

the renewed assurances

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NECESSARY AS THE SUBSTANCE OF IT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED FULLY WITH HIM
BY THE UNDERSECRE.TARYALREADY.THE ONLY' OTHER STEP WHICH.APPARENTLY
IS PLANNED WITHIN THE USA GOVT IS TO INFORM CERTAIN CONGRESSIONAL
LEADER.S OF THE PROPOSED LINES
THE LIKELIHOOD

OF THE FINAL

REPLY IN ORDER TO LESSEN

OF THEIR TAKING UMBRAGEWHEN THE TEXT IS PUBLISHED.

2.ALTHOUGH WE WERE NOT GIVEN A. COPY OF THE NOTE,OUR EXAMINATION OF
IT ENABLES US TO REPORT MORE EXACTLY ON ITS CONTENTS THAN WE WERE
ABLE TO DO THIS

MORNING ON THE BASIS OJ: THE RATHER IMPRECISE HINTS

BY MURPHY AND LISTER,
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OPENING PARA OF THE NOTE,WHICH DEALS WITH OUR REPRESENTATIONS

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"ENTERTA !NED BY THE CONGRESS",
4 .THE NEXT PARA REFERS TO OUR REQUEST CONCERNING THE HANDLING OF
INFO ABOUT CANADIANS COMMUNICATED TO THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH BY THE
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,,. IT OBSERVES FINALLY THAT THIS. IS ONE OF
THE MANYFIELDS IN WHICH FRIENDLY COOPERATION BETWEENC/1.NADAAND-THE
USA IS OF GREAT VALUE.
6.WHEN WE WERE SHOWNTHIS.TEXT,WE WERE INVITED TO LET THE STATE
DEPT H/1.VEVERY INFORMALLYTHIS AFTERNOONOR TOMORROWMORNINGANY COMMENTS WHICH WE MIGHT WISH TO MAKE ON:
(AlCONTENTS OF THE NOTE(ON WHICH WE DOUBT THAT· THE STATE DEPT WOULD
BE VERY RECEPTIVE TO SUGGESTIONS AT THIS STAGE IN VIEW OF THE PROCESS
THROUGHWHICH THIS TEXT HAS GONE&gt;;
·(B)THE TIMING OF THE REPLY(ON WHICH THE STATE DEPT OFFICIALS CONCERNED RECOGNIZE THAT WE MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT THINK IT APPROPRIATE FOR
US TO OFFER VERY DEFINITE ADVICE IN VIEW OF THEIR OWNFAMILIARITY
WITH THE SITUATION BOTH HERE AND IN CANADAAND IN VIEW OF THE INTER•
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(C&gt;THE PUBLICITY TO BE GIVEN TO THE NOTE(BY EITHER THE USA OR CANADIAN GOVTS OR BY BOTH&gt;•
7.THE OFFICIAL WITH WHOM·WETALKED INDICATED THAT IN THE ORDINARY
COURSECANDESPECIALLY IN THE ABSENCE OF CONTRARYADVICE FROM US),
HE PRESONALLYWOULDEXPECT THE STATE DEPT TO SEND ITS REPLY TO US.
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HAD PRECEDED HER APPEARANCE BEFORE THE SUBCOMMITTEE.IT

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HAD ALL OF THE RECORDS INVOLVED ,AND THE STATE DEPT OFFICIALS
WERE NOT CERTAIN EXACTLY WHICH TRANSCRIPTS YOU WERE ANXIOUS TO
HAVE ,CLEARANCE TO RELEASE IF. THAT SHOULD PROVE NECESSARY.MURPHY
INDICATED THAT Tl;!EY WOULD GO INTO THE MA!TER WITH THE FBI

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SECURITY INF0 7 MURPHY WAS UNABLE TO SAY PRECISELY WHEN THEIR REPLY
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REPLY SHOULD BE HASTENED,I

THAT WE THOUGHT A.

MENTIONED THAT SUN WOULD BE THE LATEST

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WOULDGATHER
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NOT' BE COMPLETELYSATISFACTORY,ESPECIALLY SINCE IT LEANS·RATHER
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ADEQUATEAND,BY IMPLICATION,NEED NO IMPROVEMENT.IN THIS CONNEC..,.
TION,LISTER SAID THAT ALL OF THE SECURITY AGENCIES HAVE BEEN
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VERY SENSITIVE OR-TENDER AEOUT ANY SUGGESTION THAT THEY HAD BEEN
AT FAULT AT ANY TIME IN THE. PAST IN HANDLINGCANADIAN INFO.IT

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EXPECTED,THEREFORE,Tl{AT,WHATEVERTHE LANGUAGEUSED I,N THE USA
REPLY,THERE WILL BE ANY ADMISSION THAT THE CURRENT ARRANGEMENTS
OR UNDERSTANDINGSREQUIRE ANY MODIFICATIONS TO ACCOMPLISH THE .PURPOSE
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WHICH LAY BEHIND OUR NOTE•.
6.0N A QUITE PERSONAL BASIS,I

ENQUIRED WHETHERTHE USA REPLY,

AFTER STATING THE GENERAL POSITION,MIGHT NOT SUGGEST THAT THE PRESENT ARRANGEMENTSBE REVIEWED IN CONFIDENTIAL DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN
THE USA AND CANADIANAUTHORITIES.MURPHY AND LISTER APPEARED TO
FEEL QUITE STRONGLYTHAT ANY PUBLIC MENTION OF SUCH AN EXAMINATION WOULDBE REGARDEDBY THE SECURITY AGENCIES HERE AS. REFLEC-

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TING ON THEM AND WOULDPROBABLYBE INTERPRETED BY THE SENATE SUBCOMMITTEEAS SOMEWHATPROVOCATIVE.IT WOULI)BE ALLEGED THAT SOME-·

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THING WAS BEING CONCEALEDAND THAT,CONTRARYTO THE PUBLIC PROTESTATIONS,EXISTING ARRANGEMENTSMUST BE DEFICIENT IN· SOME

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RESPECT OR OTHER.

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T!VES IN THE FURTHER D.I PLOMATIC EXCHANGESBETWEENOUR
MUST BE TO RESTORE CONFIDENCE AND ENSURE THAT OUR SECURITY AUTHORITIES
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WILL BE ABLE TO WORKTOGETHER EFFECTIV£LY.

AM NOT ABL£ TO SAY YET WHENTHE USA REPLY MAY EMERGE.SINCE

ACCORDINGTO MURPHYIT STILL HAS TO BE CLEARED WITH"ONE OR TWO
PEOPLE",I

WOULDDOUBT THAT IT WILL )3E AVAILABLE BY SUN.IF

ON

FURTHER REFLECTION IN THE LIGHT OF THIS REPORT YOU HAVE DEFINITE
VIEWS ON THE QUESTION OF TIMING ,I

SHOULD BE GRATEF-ULIF YOU

WOULDLET ME KNOW
,AND I AM CONFIDENT ,THAT THE STATE DEPT WOULD"BE
(\NXIOUS TO ,TAKE THEM INTO ACCOUNT '
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                    <text>SECRET
May

24, 1957

MEMORANDUM
FOR THE MINISTER
Subject:

Exchange of Security
Information
with the United States

Although it was expected this week we have not
yet received
the United States reply to our note of
April 10 regarding
the exchange of security
information
between the Canadian and United States Governments._::·,:,-:,·
_This memorandum has been prepared at your request
to
examine what courses of action are open to us, should the
United States note when it arrives
fail to provide the,
assurance
we have requested
of the United States Goverl;lment,
11
tha t none of its agencies
or departments
will pass su·ch
information
to any committee,
body or organization
in_the
United States over which the executive
branch of the United
States Government has no executive
control
without the
express consent of the Canadian Government in each case. 11
You will remember that rur April 10 note went on to say
that, were such an assurance
not given, 11the Canadian
Government must reserve
the right
in future not to supply
security
information
concerning
Canadian ,citizens
to any
United States Government agency."
2.
It is relevant
to this problem that when Mr. Heeney
presented
this note he explained,
on instructions,
"that
although we had found it necessary
to take this step, we
had no desire to upset the long-standing
and friendly
relations
between the FBI and the ROMP, nor the new and
satisfactory
arrangements
between the United States
Immigration
and Naturalization
Service and the ROMP, to
both of which we attached
importance.
Further,
we considered
it. important
in our joint interest
to maintain
this close
co-operation
in.the
security
field,
as in other fields."
3.
about

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The ROMPhave_ been passlng., security
information
Canadian citizens
to agencies
of the United States

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Government
Canadians,
category):

in the following
categories
of cases (some
of course,
are affected
under more than one

(a)

Canadians applying for employment by
the United States Government in sensitive
positions
either
in the United States
(information
passed to the FBI) or at
United States bases in Canada;

(b)

Canadians applying for immigration
visas
to enter the United States
(information
passed to the United States Immigration
and
Naturalization
Service);

( c)

Canadians with a subversive
record,
where
United States interests
~re involved,
e.g.
Canadian Communists visiting
the United States
(information
passed to the FBI); and

(d)

Canadians engaging in espionage,
where
United States interests
are involved
(information
passed to the FBI).

4,
In addition,
of co\X'se, the RCMPwhen required
pass security
information
about United States
citizens
resident
in Canada.
5.
In return for this the RCMPreceive
from the FBI
an enormous amount of security
information
about Canadians,
and about United States citizens
where Canadian interests
are involved,
in all four categories
listed
in paragraph
3 above.
The RCMP consider
that in category
(a) they get
much more than they give, because there are far more
·
Canadians with a record of residence
in the United States
seeking sensitive
employment in Canada than there are
Canadians seeking such employment in the United States or
at United-States
bases in Canada.
In category
(b), again,
we get at least as much as we give, and perhaps more, While

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it is true that more Canadians immigrate to the United
States than vice v.ers'S,, the return
here lies in the
assistance
given by United States consular
authorities
in Europe and South America to,the
RCMPimmigration
screening
programme.
In categories
(c) and (d) the
RCMPget quite as much from the FBI as they give.

6.
Should the United States note prove unsatisfactory,
and should the Canadian Government decide to implement its
threat
to withhold
security
ini'ormation
from United States
agencies,
the following
courses of action appear to be open
to us:
(a)

The RCMP could be instructed
to pass no
information
whatever in any of the categories
listed
in paragraph
3;

(b)

They could be instructed
to pass information
in some categories
and not in others;

( C)

They could be instructed
to pass less
information
in all categories,
e.g.
make
a simple statement
of fact such as "so-and-so
is not clear for security,"
or "so-and-so
is
a member of the Communist party,"
without
adding any further
details
of the case;

(d)

They could be instructed
to pass information
to one United States agency, e.g. to the FBI,
and not to the others - .t·he United Stat es
agency selected
could be requested,
and if it
were the FBI it would probably comply with such
a request,
to keep the information
for its own
use;

(e)

Some other agency could.
screen RCMPinformation
United States agencies,
suitable
criteria
or by
each case.

be found or set up to
before it is passed to
either
by establishing
actually
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are the
dangerous
exception
criticisms

If the RCMPpass no information
whatever
we run the risk that Canadians will be
denied sensitive
employment in the United
States
and at United States bases in Canada;
they will encounter
serious
difficulties
if
they wish to emigrate to the United States;
subversive
and espionage
agents will'·-ha:ve
a field
day; the interested
United States
agencies will seek security
information
about
Canadians through devious and unreliable
channels;
United States confidence
in our
security
arrangements
will decline,
and the
flow of classified
United States
information
to Canada will dwindleJ

(b)

If they passed no information
in selected
categories
the damage would be I.imi:ted, t.o,,.that
category
initially
but would have a.generally
bad effect
before long;

(c)

If they passed only a bare statement
in
security
cases, without any supporting
information,
in many important
cases it
would be as unsatisfactory
to the United
States agencies
as if they passed no
information
whatever,
and in those cases
least
there could be the same unfortunate
consequences;

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courses
only ones which have occurred
or at least unhelpful,
with
of some modification
of the
of each course of action:

(d)

at

If they passed information
only to the FBI,
and perhaps to the INS, the dangerous consequences of courses
(a), (b) and ( c) would
be avoided to a great extent:
it is unlikely,
however, that the Canadian public would consider
that this represented
any tightening
up at all,
as the danger of leaks from the FBI and the
INS could not be entirely
ruled out;

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The suggestion
that some other agency
could screen the flow of RCMPinformation,
case by case, appears to reflect
on the
RCMP1 s good judgment, would impose intolerable
delays in the processing
of vetting
and
immigl!'B.tion cases, and would probably completely
inhibit
an effective
co-operation
between the
RCMPand the FBI in operations
against
subversives
and spies.

8.
It seems to me that the best course for the Canadian
Government to pursue,
in the event that the United States
.
note is found unsatisfactory,
is simply to refer
the
JlM/.... question to the Security Panel for study. It could be
(JI. announ.ced that
the problem. s posed by the United States note
were complex and important
and that the Government had
instructed
its security
advisers
to study them carefully
and report back as a matter of highest priority.
At this
.ffe'-~tage
I could not predict
what sort of recommendation
the
,fl' ~-~ Security
Panel would find it possible
to make.
It seems
:~· ~
likely,
however, that it could re-examine. the cri·teria
1
used by the RCMP in determining
whether or not to pass
.) .-/,~information,
the extent to which details
should be supplied
1
(IF'.
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in the various
categories
of cases,
the choice of United
r .
States agencies
to which to pass information,
and the
G/ conditions under which it should be' passed to them. I
should not~ be surprised
if the Security
Panel found it
necessary
to recommend an increase
in the RCMP·establishment
if the procedure
for passing
security
information
to the
United States were to be effectively
tightened
up.

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You asked me, incidentally,
whether the RCMP•s
relationship
with the United Kingdom security
people was
as close.as
their relationship
with the FBI. After
consulting
Superintendent
Hall I am able to confirm that
this is the case.
RCMPdealings
with M.I.5 are quite as
full,
frank and mutually
helpful
as they are with the FBI.
For obvious geographical
reasons
the volume of this
correspondence
with the FBI happens to be greater
but that
is the only difference.
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Mr. Leger told me this morning that Mr. Robertson,
learned
from Governor Herter yesterday
afternoon
that
the United States reply to our April 10 note was practically
r·eady.
The State Department
had finished
work on it, and
were planning
to clear it today with the appropriate
Congressional
Committee (unspecified).
It will probably
arrive,
therefore,
early next week.
Mr. Pearson is leaving
Ottawa to-night
and, therefore,
will not have an opportunity
of seeing it before his departure.
Governor Herter asked
Mr. Robertson's
views as to the timing of publication
of
the United States
note.
Mr. Leger discussed
this point
with Mr. Pearson this morning.
The latter
refused
to
commit himself before he had seen the text of the note.
2. · On Mr. Leger's
instructions
I prepared
the attached
memorandum, dated May 24, for the Minister
on this subject.
I found it a highly hypothetical
exercise,
but the Minister
ordered it done.
I consulted
Supt. Hall and Mr. Glazebrook
_C_I_R_C_U_L_A_T_I_O_N_
before preparing
it, and cleared
it with Supt. Hall and
·
Mr. Wall (in Mr. Dwyer 1 s absence)
before submitting
it to
Mr. Leger.
You should note the latter's
comment added at
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Mr. Rae informed me on May 28~~
he had again
called on the State Department wh~ad
let him know
what their reaction
was to Mr. ~ 1 s sLtggestions
for the
revision
of the U.S. reply to OLtr note of April 10,
He
told me that the U.S. were impressed by the second point
which Mr, Robertson made, namely, that there shoLtld be
some reference
to fLtrther consLtltation
on procedLtres for
the exchange of information
and that they thought this
might be worked into their reply.
They were more dubious
about the first.
Mr. Rae told them that we attached
importance
to both,
Mr. Rae was told that as a result
the note would be revised
and would have to be circulated
again to interested
agencies
in Washington and that,
in
the light of this, we could not expect to receive
it
before the middle of June.
I reported
this conversation
to Mr. Leger on the same
Y~. Leger thought it important
that no impression
------~hould
get about that the delay was due to the Canadian
Cl.RCULATION equest
for revision,
He accordingly
consulted
the .Minister
ho confirmed that it was his view that the note should not
e held up because of our request.
It must be made clear
o them that it was up to 'them and it was their responsibility
f they wished to delay the answer further,
Mr. Leger
onveyed this view to Mr. Robertson
this morning and he was
sked to make this position
clear to the State Departmentj
f they continue
to hold it up.,ettt- the State Department should
e willing
to say publicly,
if requested,
that they~
still
onsulting
in Washington.
It should also be made clear to
he State Department that it was a matter for the State Departent if they wished to pursLte the point which we had made,
2.
day.

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will be reporting
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of his further
conversation.
'Mr. Robertson added that
he thinks the United States Embassy in Ottawa has been
advising
the State Department to hold up delivery
of the
reply until after the election.
Mr. Leger commented
that this was satisfacrlo
y provided
it was clear that
this was the decision
the United States Government
and not one which had een requested
by the Canadian
Government.

3.

Mr. Leger suggested

a memorandum for the
week giving a further

that I should prepare
Prime Minister
at the end of this
report.

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t.&gt;io 3t11to

t'-oporb:2ont 1 undo?"tJtlmdfl 1 thct tho oe=o pr,lnclplo
epplt.oa to t.1lo o.xchL"'lf:O or lnto between CA::llld1ttn
w,d Unitod f!to.t.c11aeone1oa.,

$. 'l'ho noto ooneludcu, wttb a pm-a 00 tbo
1-oPol"tance tlhlch t!lo oontinuod e1cho.n,:o or
th!o kinO or. ln.-"'b btUl hnd ct,,d will have toxtbo eecur1ty of' 'bOtl:l cou, ritr10D.
tt cbttc1l'VcD
f'ieally
Uwt th.lo 10 c::o er tho -.ctlY t1ol@ in
which tPicmdl.1 coope:ra.tion botwooo Clltlbda end
tbo USA ln or c:ro~t valuo."

4.

'l'bo t&gt;toto Dopar~ont

e.o=cntc

on tbla

6-ratt.

tho po:-1:10::lll op1n1c:l

tcctonly

t~.t

invited

er.

OUl"

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tobOJ"te&lt;&gt;n m;,rooood

1t to.11&lt;ld to cneve?" oat1o-

e1tbel" or tbo :ro910:,ta r:ado ln ~r

note

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000523

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at •il

10.,

tho 1'lrnt

On

co:-=S.ttoo proccdu.--o,

point,

cono.orntns

1t Gid not 1rull.cato 1:,oelti-

ol ther that O\lr' roquan t wuld

call7

ovon that. t'1:loO:oettti•o
OovOl'mfmt e,crood uit"l

point,, eo~omln::

t1ub-,

bo cot,. c:-

f:rtmeh or tho Cnttod ntntoa
o-.ir

poaitlo::.

On

tho oocond.

tho cxe.~ngo or cocru:ri.t, 1ntcr::i-.

ot1on, tho 01u1ux-c.neo
otrorod by th1o ropl,- woa not
eouc.'"lod 1n ~..:1

vcxie.1 teri::o,, Al tbo;,icb i fl ooul.d

bo crauod thC\t it

11U

nobortson r..tldo ~o

1~.;,lic!t

poreom.il 1niceoat1ono tor

lcpl"OVlnn t..".IGprcpozicd reply

v1cv.

.troo our poin,e ot

no pe.rt!e'.J.lm-17 roco~ot'l4od

N1f'oN1nco bo eodo to f'u:rtrutr

to avoid t?lo 1~01u11cn

ordw

r.r.

1n tbo text.

tha~ aoee

cc:u,-cltottcna,
that

in

thic rc:ply wo

co.::prohon!Jivoa:ll! IS.nul and thnt :,othina oleo
re:-.11in1u1 to be dono.

s.

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r:r. notiortaor:i• o CUCC013t1c::lSam told

!~a7 28 that
&lt;lo not

our l.:b«u1a:, on

tbo -drti.t't ro,:.l:, would bo rov1ooi1.

k.-:iewwhet'\or

tho cu'blJequont dolcy

Uc

in tho CIM"ival

horc or tbCIUn1to4 Ste.too reply 10 c:uoto tho voricuo
ccncul tat1oi:::o 1b1eh tho taok ot rev1nlon would l~o~o

000524

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SECRET

on the State
the other
that

-

s.

Depat'tment.

day that

we were still

we were anxious

I atta.ch

wt th

l!r.

v1•wa .aa to what we eight
States

the Unltttd

short

of a reply

reply

memorandll!ll, less
Dulle1t,

do

with

relevant

aeems likely,

when 1."ece1ved provea

memorandum have

the Com:!!i11s1onerot the ROffl?

to mom I ba.ve sent ,copies 1n case he should m.ab
to brief

and

~-fit

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I, ~J.//4/
/ 4_

. '/.t.t;'.
y

g1v1ng 'tfff tentnt1ve

tr,, ••

Both th1a and the attached

been cleared.

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unaat1stacto:t7.
7.

!Tf.u
cf-

.Kr. !forc.hant

to get it.

a :rurther

to your meeting

t reminded

f.tr. PuJ.ton on thie matter.·

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of ia~tion
th~t •ul.tt bit cpcn to uJ&gt;. ie'l'lt,:114tbe nmtt.t1: &amp;tfJ;~
roply to- ou,, i:it&gt;t# or A.Pl"ii 10 on tbta #ubjoet,
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t-.411 no oxo¢1l.tiv• ~~tl't\l
w!,tff(Ml.t t:\t. c:iq;rei:11;.

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e.baut tt • bo'e=tl-ff tho Bto:to t•~t:=ont
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cfttlt.c«m.iSto ~Mnift#
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of
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R~!P e¢-m1~
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t:!ltch, ac!"O UlC!:l tbo7 0 VO,, btmAlll'it.1't.~'fO f:I.J"O.fD'l"
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Un!toa t.ut(}'lli

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Ottawa,

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August 14, 1957.

MEMORANDUM
FOR THE PRIME MINISTER

Exchange of security
information:
Ganada-U. S. A.
Attached

is a telegram

Mr. Robertson

concerning

exchange of security
note that

just

information.

twenty-four

tomorrow noon, August 15.

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date

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reloase

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have agreed. to post-

twenty-four

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lntormat1on.

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Canoda-p.,s,A.

I have just been 1nr.ormed by Hr.
Roborti,on in tfaahington that Robert Nurptt.y1 the
Deputy 0nder-Secretarr
of state, baa asked,;hu.i
to call tbiis afternoon, Tue:iday, et 4.00 p.1:1.
to be given the text of' the Unit~ed States repiy
to the Canadi'on note of April 10 dealing with
the exchange of' security inforcation.
It ie

likely that when the note ia presented, the
State Oepartl!lent will propose arr~ngements for
the agreed release or the communication.
Such
a release,
however, lllOUldnaturally
not be made
bofore the communication han been rectdved in
Ottawa. There would be time therefore to etud.y
the note and to prepare any public c0tment you
might. mah to aake on it b'i!tore the note ie r.iade
public.
Jfr. Robertson will no doubt pass the
note to ue as soon as be has rece1.ved. it and .I
shall eend it to you. iccediately.

J.W.H.

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Dee.r Kr. Bt-yce,

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I told you this morning that we were
expecting to receive this afternoon the United
States reply to our Note or April 10 regarding
the exchange of ,security .information wlth the
United States.
Although. the definitive
text of
the United States reply has not yet been received
here, I send you herewith a copy or a telegram
from our Washington Embassy, No. 17oUof August 13,
which gives an advance text as supplied to our
Embassy by the State Department on an in.formal .and
confidential
basis earlier
today.
I have also sent a copy of th.ls telegram
to the Prime Minister., telling him that we were
study.1ng the Note carefully
and would let hllil have
further comments. I pointed out to Jfr. Diefenbaker
that the most urgent que.stion before us was t.hat of
publication,
as the Embassy expects that the State
Department will wish to publlsh the Note be.fore noon
tomorrow. Should Mr. Diefenbaker be asked tor comments, which seems certain,
I recommended for his
consideratlon'the
~uggestlon conveyed 1n Mr. Robertson•s
telegram that the b\':)st line to take would be to express
some satisfaction
that the, .reply had been received,
and then to indicate that it would be .studied by
Cabinet before any further comment would be made.
I am sending a copy of th1s letter,
together
with a copy or its enclosure,
to Commissioner ,.tl.tetu:u.Bon,
whom I was not able to reach· by- t;t;fl,~p.honethis ,e\tening.
Yours sincerely,
R.B. Bryce, Esq.,.
Privy Council Office,
Ee.st Block,
O t t a w a.

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TO EXTERNAL 1763 OPIMMEDIATE
FOR ACTING UNDERSECRETARY
REF OUR TEL1754 AUG13
EXCHANGEOF SECURITY INFO:CANADA··USA
ROBERT MURPHYRECEIVED ME AT 4PM TODAY,AND HANDED ME THE STATE
DEPT'S REPLY TO THE EMBASSY'S NOTE OF APR10 UITH REGARD TO THE HANDLING OF SECURITY INFO RELATING TO CANADIAN CITIZENS.MURPHY EXPLAINED
THE DELAY1FOLLOWING THE DESPATCH OF THE STATE DEPT'S INTERIM REPLY
OF APR!8 1 0N THE GROUNDSTHAT IT HAD BEEN NECESSARYTO CONSULT ALL
THE INTERESTED AGENCIES AND DEPTS CONCERNEDIN THIS FIELD.HE

IN-

DICATED ALSO THAT THE MEMBERSOF CONGRESSPARTICULARLY CONCERNED
ARE BEING APPRISED IN CONFIDENCE OF THE SUBSTANCEOF THE STATE DEPT'S
REPLY1 AND HE ADDED THAT CONGRESSWAS FULLY AWAREOF THE CONCERN
WITH WHICH THIS WHOLE ISSUE HAD BEEN VIEWED BY THE CANADIAN GOVT.
IT WAS CLEARLY HIS HOPE THAT THE STATE DEPT REPLY WOULDMARK THF.
END OF THIS PROTRACTEDAND DIFFICULT

PROBLEM.

2.WITH RESPECT TO PUBLICATION OF THE TEXT OF THE NOTE9 COPY OF WHICH
IS IDENTICAL TO THAT TRANSMITTED IN MY REF TEL 1WITH ONLY THE DIFFER=
ENCE THAT THE FORMAL COMMUNICATION IS SIGNED BY MURPHY"FOR THE
ACTING SECRETARYOF STATE",HE ORIGINALLY PROPOSEDTHAT,SUBJECT
TO OUR CONVENlENCEI IT MIGHT BE ISSUE!) TOMORROW
,AUG1J1.SINCE I THOUGHT
THAT YOU MIGHT WELCOMESOME ADDITIONAL TIME IN WHICH TO STUDY THE
COMMUNICATIONPRIOR TO PUBLICATION 1 1 PROPOSEDAND MURPHYAGREED
THAT THE NOTE MIGHT BE JOINTLY RELEASED IN WASHDCAND OTTAwA AT
NOON,AUG15.PLEASE CONFIRM IF THIS RELEASE DATE IS SATISFACTORY.
MURPHY INDICATED THAT IT WAS THE HOPE OF THE USA AUTHORITIES THAT
THE ENSUING PUBLICITY COULD BE KEPT TO A MINIMUM
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Ottawa,

August 13,

MEMORANDUM
FOR MR. WAINMAN-WOOD

Exchange of Security
with the United

Information
States

Mr. Holmes informed me this evening
that the Prime Minister
wishes to have first
thing
in the morning copies of the following
documents
on this subject which I therefore
transmit
to you
herewith:
(a)

Text of Canadian Government•s letter
of April 10, 1957, to the United States
Government;

(b)

Text of United States
dated April 18; and

interim

(c)

Text of formal United
dated August 13.

States

reply
reply

Defence

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MEMORANDUM
FOR THE PR
Exchange of security
Canada-u.s.A.

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information:

I have just been informed by Mr.
Robertson in Washington that Robert Murppy, the
Deputy Under-Secretary
of State, has asked him
to call this afternoon,
Tuesday, at 4.00 p.m.,
to be given the text of the United States reply
to the Canadian note of April 10 dealing with
the exchange of security
information.
It is
likely that when the note is presented,
the
State Department will propose arrangements for
the agreed release of the communication.
Such
a release,
however, would naturally
not be made
before the communication has been received in
Ottawa.
There would be time therefore
to study
the note and to prepare any public comment you
might wish to make on it before the note is made
public.
Mr. Robertson will no doubt pass the
note to us as soon as he has received it and I
shall send it to you immediately.

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Exchange of security
information:
Canada-U. S. A.
Attached is an advance draft of a telegram
we have received
from the Embassy in Washington.
This
telegram contains
the text of an advance copy of the
note which Mr. Robertson will receive this afternoon
together
with some comments on the note.
On first
glance
the note appears to be in general along the lines expected.
However, we are studying it carefully
and will
let you have further
comments.

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The most urgent question is that of publication.
The Embassy expects that the State Department will wish
to issue this reply to the press before noon tomorrow.
When I was talking
with the Embassy on the phone I
suggested they try to postpone this deadline.
They
thought that it might be postponed a few hours but
that there was the danger that it would leak if the
issuance
did not take place fairly
soon.
When it is
issued you will undoubtedly
be asked to comment. We
would recommend for yotllT consideration
Mr. Robertson's
suggestion
that the best line to take would be to express
some satisfaction
that the repiliy had been received and
then to indicate
that it would be studied by Cabinet
before any further
comment would be made.
I will let
you know immediately 1-;e receive further
word from Mr.
Robertson that the message has been delivered.

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my colleagues
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EXCHANGE
OF SECURITYINFORMATION
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STATES

ORIGINATOR

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SENTIMENTS
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BY THE CONGRESS
MYGOVERNMENT
TRUSTSTHATIN FUTURESHOULDTHE NAMESOF

CANADIAN
CITIZENS APPEARIN EVIDENCEBEFORECONGRESSION
INVESTIGATING
COMMITTEES,
THESENAMESWILL, AS WE
SUGGESTED',
BE SENT IN CONFIDENCE
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STAT.E:fENTABOUT THE DIRECTIVE APPLYING TO EACH OF
YOUR SECURITY AGENCIES WHICH REQUIRES THAT SECURITY
INFORMATION IT RECEIVES FROM OTHERS MAY ONLY BE
TRA1iSlUTTED OUTSIDE THAT AGENCYWITH THE CONSENT OF
THE AGENCYPROVIDING THE INFORUATION, A!:D YOUR STATEMENT
THAT THE RELATED PROCEDURES APPLY TO CANADIA!l IllFORf.fATION
AND WILL BE FOLLOWEDIN FUTURE,

WHILE NY GOVERNMENT

WOULDHAVE WELCOMEDA MORE EXPLICIT ASSURAMCE, IT
RELIES UPON YOUR STATEHEJIT THAT THE DIRECTIVE AND
THE PROCEDURESYOU t-mllTION ARE CONSISTENT IN SUBSTAllCE
WITH THE ASSURANCE SOUGHT IN THE CANADIAll"NOTE,
HY GOVERNME!ITIS AWAREOF THE FACT THAT EFFECTIVE
IMPROVE!:ENTSHAVE BEEN i1ADE IN RECENT YEARS IN THE
PROCEDURESFOR THE RECIPROCAL EXCHANGEOF SECURITY
INFORMATION BETWEENAGENCIES OF OUR TWO GOVERNHE!lTS,
AND NOTES WITH PLEASURE THAT THE UNITED STATES
GOVERJ!MEHTIS WILLING TO CONTINUE WITH CONSULTATIONS
COlTCERNINGTHESE PROCEDURES,
ACCEPT, EXCELLENCY, THE RENEWEDASSURANCES
OF MY HIGHEST COllSIDERATION.

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I luive the honour to refer

your Note or August 13 regard.ins

to

th• handling

by the United Statea

Government or 1ecurity

1n!ormat1on

to Cknadlan 01t1zon1.

relatlna

a111 instructed

to etate

a~prectatea
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my

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Government greatly

ln conveying

aa contained

views

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Note ot

ln lta

A1,&gt;ril 10, to the United Sta tea Consreaa.

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view of the triendly

in

aentlcenta

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exvreaaed

tbia oonneotion by the Congrebl my Government
C,..-i~-r:
that in future ahould the nsmea ot

u~••

Canadian citizen•
Congrea11onal
namea will,
confidence

appear in evidence

investigating

my

Lly

your statement
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-:if

that

aec~rity

Government notea with &amp;kt!afaction

your security

agencies

information

may only be tro.na:::1 tted

in future.

a1,&gt;ply!ng to

which requires

it receives
outside

that

the relMted

VJli~Oovernment

welcomed ar-~

trom other•

that

or the agency providing

ap~l1 to Canadian information
?

th• allegations

and dealt with in CaDQda.

about the directiYe

e.nd your atatecent

th•••

be aent in

Government ao thut

can be 1nveat1gated

the consent

committe•••

aa we euggeoted,
to

before

c.genc:,- with
the information,
.,roced.u1·ee

ana will

be followed

wo-..ila have

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the procedure, ,ou Mntion are conatetent

1n eubttn.nce

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lb' Ooverruaent le aware ot the tact
that ettective

improvement, have been aade 1n recent rear•

in the procedure, tor the r.cipl'OCal exchange ot aecurlt7

1ntoraat1on between agenc1•• ot

OU?'

two Government,, and

not•• with pleaaure that the United Statee Oove~n,sit ie
willing to continue with coneultat1ona concerning th•••

procedure,.
Accept. Bxcellenoy, the renewed
aesuranc•• ot 117higbeet cona1derat1on.

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United Stat••

note published

today concerning exchange

1nto:rmation, Mr. Diefenbaker stated

ot aecurity

that he

h4d been pleased to observe that the Canadian
government I s v1ewa on thia subJect had been paaaed on to
Congreaa and that the State Department now reported
in thia c0Mect1on that Congreaa wiahed wholeheartedly
to maintain the triendlieat

relations

with Canada,

Mr. Diet'enbaker aaid that h1a general
111,preaston vaa that while the United States

note did not

follow the terma proposed 1n the Canadian note, it
indicated

that the dJ.Nctive

agenciea concerning their
security

given United States

procedurea in handling

1nt'o:rmat1on 1• conaiatent

in wbatance with

the aaaurance canada had aougbt.
He added that

hia government would

study with care the statements given 1n the United States
note concerning the procedures tor aatoguarding
1ntomat1on

security

1'l'0lll Canadian sources as well as from others,
/.,,,

and welcomed the United States
conaultat1ons

auggeatio~

concerning these security

I':

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arrangements.

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I-'IEMORAN
DUMFOR THE MI

I return herewith
the draft of a note which
we might send to the United States Goverrnnent in reply
to their note of August 13 on this subject.
One change
has been made in the draft since you saw it last
Thu.radar. evening.
Instead
of the second paragraph
ending 'and will be followed in future",
it now reads
"and will continue
to be followed in future".
This
seems a more accurate
version
of the United States note
on the point in question.
You have requested
my views as to whether
we need reply at all to the United States note.
Mr.
Robertson has suggested
to us that the exchange might
well be terminated
by the public statement
you made
last Thursday.
It is certainly
in our interest,
as
well as in the interest
o'f the United ·states,
to bring
this exchange to an early close for the sake of good
relations
generally,
and particularly
in this important
and delicate
matter of exchanging security
infOI'l'llEtion.
However, the officials
who drafted
both your
statement
and this proposed note consider,
after taking full account of Mr. Robertson•s
views, that a
reply to the United States note ought nevertheless
to
be sent for the following
reasons:
(a)

It is a fact that the United States note
does not (perhaps it could not) give us
the explicit
assurances
requested
by our
note of April 10. Although we are prepared to accept the United States note,
for the sake of the record it ought to be
made clear that we are doing so because

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we trust
and rely on such assurances
as they have now given us, and not because we consider
that these assurances
are the ones we sought.
(b)

(c)

One reason that we are prepared to trust
and rely on their assurinces
is that in
f'act ef'f'ective
improvements have been made
in our exchange procedures
in recent years
(my memorandum to you of' July 23 on the
relations
between the RCMPand the INS
is relevant
in this connection),
and we
think that this f'act also should be placed
on the record as it is in the third paragraph of' our draf't note.
You will notice
that the United States note speaks only
of' the adequacy of' their existing
procedures,
without admitting
the obvious
f'act that they broke down badly in the
Norman case.
We attach some importance
to the United
States of'fer to continue with consulta_tions concerning
security
procedures.
Indeed it was at our suggestion
that
this point was made in their note.
It
would therefore
seem wise to stress
this
point also f'or the record.

On balance I would recormnend that we reply
to the United States note along the lires
of the
attached
draf't.
I see less reason,
however, f'or
making our reply public,
at least at the time of'
delivery.
Mr. Bryce, who has seen this11Bmorandum
in draft,
and who joins me in recormnending that we
reply as proposed,
considers
that our reply ought to
be tabled when Parliament
meets.
May I please

have your instructions?

J.w.~

J.W.H.

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CONFIDENTIAL

DRAFTLETTERFOR DELIVERYBY CANADIAN
AMBASSADOR
TO SECRETARY
OF STATE
Excellency,

to refer

I have the honour
of August
States

13 regarding

that

the handling

Government of security

to Canadian

citizens.

in its

its

greatly

information

10,

In view of the friendly

in this

connection
that

citizens

appear

vestigating
gested,

by the

in future

be sent

with

in Canada.

security

of the

statement
information
future.

receives

outside

the related

and will

that

satisfaction
applying

to each

that

from others

may

agency with

the con-

the in.formation,
procedures

continue

so

apply

to be followed

and your
to Canadian
in

While my Government would have welcomed

a more explicit
ment that
tion

it

as we sug-

and dealt

which requires

agency providing

that

with

the directive

in.formation

only be transmitted
sent

names will,

in-

to my Government

notes

agencies

expressed

Congressional

can be investigated

about

Con-

my Government

before

these

My Government

of your security

States

sentiments

in confidence

the allegations

as contained

the names of Canadian

in evidence

that

your statement

subject,

Congress

should

committees,

your action

to the United

gress.

relating
to state

appreciates

views on this

Note of April

trusts

by the United

I am instructed

my Government

in conveying

to your Note

assurance,

the directive

are consistent

it

relies

upon your state-

and the procedures

in substance

with

you men-

the assurance

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sought

in the Canadian note.
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effective
years

Government is aware of the fact

improvements

in the procedures

change of security

that

the United

continue

have been made in recent
for the reciprocal

information

our two Governments,

ex-

between agencies

and notes

States

that

with satisfaction

Government is willing

with consultations

concerning

to

these

procedures.
Accept,
ances of my highest

Excellency,

the renewed assur-

consideration.

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The view which Mr. Robertson expressed
to you
last Friday,
that we ought not to reply to last week 1 s
United States note, but rest our case on the Prime
Minister's
public statement,
was the same as he had
expressed
to Mr. Bryce on the day before when Mr.
Bryce read him the proposed statement
over the telephone.
Nevertheless
Mr. Bryce and the other officials
who were gathered
in his office
last Thursday considered,
and still
do, that we ought to send a reply.
I attach herewith for your consideration
a memorandum
for the Minister
to this effect.
I was able to clear
it in draft with Mr. Bryce this morning.
If you
approve and send it to the Minister,
I plan to send
copies to Mr. Bryce and Commissioner Nicholson.

Defence

CIRCULATION

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