1 20 3 https://declassified.library.utoronto.ca/files/original/8f66043e743c98ae558552b22328433f.pdf 6dc0a5554762277cb52c3d4e03528680 PDF Text Text DELEGATION OF CANADA TO T S c N O R T H ATLANTIC COUNCIL T f^ DELEGATION DU CANADA AU C NSEJL DE L'ATLANTIQUE-NORDy 0 U<&& Paris^Tli PERORAL AND W? SECRET Oi/ Dear Ross, >A 0~ J This is a very brief reply to your lettei about bilateral stockpile agreements. I was not able to arrange a conversation with Air Marshal MacBrien until today because he was away on leave. However, I had a good talk with him this afternoon, in the course of which I put questions (a) and (b) on page 4 of your letter. The answers were as you predicted. As Air Marshal MacBrien described the system, there are in fact three sorts of agreement, the agreement to acquire information, which is necessary in order to permit troop training} the stockpile agreement, which in Canada's case would have to be a "third party" agreement since Canada, Germany and the United States would be involved; and the service-to-service agreement covering technical and administrative aspects. Of the NATO countries with nuclear delivery systems, France, Germany, Greece, the Netherlands and the United Kingdom have now signed all three agreements. Belgium, Italy and Turkey form a second category. They still have to complete arrangements for the conclusion of the third, or service-to-service agreement. MacBrien*s information is that the difficulties in all three cases are small and should be resolved fairly shortly. Canada is in a class by itself, in that we have signed only the first agreement, that is the general agreement which was concluded in May, 1959, and which pennits us to obtain information necessary for troop training. MacBrien had a number of other interesting things to say, but if I am to pass them on to you, I am afraid it will have to wait until later if this letter is to g© in today's bag. Ross Campbell, Esq., Assistant Under-Secretary of State for External Affairs, •%«%i»i»i«i»iinri Ottawa, Canada. DQWNGRADfc' T S ET REMIT A SECRET kV6(5#lA) 1985 000621 � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CDNW03497 Title A name given to the resource George Ignatieff, Delegation of Canada to the North Atlantic Council to Ross Campbell, Assistant USSEA Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived "NATO - Nuclear weapons - Policy - NATO long term planning," RG25-A-3-b, vol 5960, file 50219-AL-2-40, part 8-1, Library and Archives Canada (LAC). Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Canadian Crown Subject The topic of the resource Nuclear Weapons Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Canada Declassified Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource PDF Language A language of the resource en Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 9-Apr-63 https://declassified.library.utoronto.ca/files/original/f8b5765d7bc0f79d7502a69e3e167df8.pdf 6ee9d6062518b79b5583670c2d7ae976 PDF Text Text Ts KEHORANDUM n Tho United States toam which is to give the special briefing will be headed by Rear Admiral E, S. Killer, He will be accompanied by seven officers and three enlisted men. 2. The party will arrive in a U.S. service aircraft at Uplands at noon on April 11, They v/ill be met by representatives of the United Statos Embassy and USAF CCS-C, They will require the back end of a station wagon for the projoctors and portable screens which thoy are bringing. Thoy will also roquire four sedans. The U.S. Embassy and CCS-C can provide these vohicles. If it is decidod that some Canadian vehicles should be supplied, tho U.S. Embassy should bo informed. 3. , Tho briefing toam will stay at the Lord Elgin Hotel. The CCS-C is making arrangements for tho accommodation of the crew of the U.S, service aircraft, 4. The U.S. Embassy is making arrangements for the safe custody of classified materials. 5. Some ©embers of tho party would like to be able to examino the briofing room on the afternoon of April 11, The U.S. Embassy wishes to be informed whom they should contact to make the appointment, 6. Three members of the U.S. EmbassyJ Ambassador Buttcrworth, iliniotertfhitcand Counsellor Rufus Smith, and Brigadier General Frank James, Chief, CCS-C, will attend the briefing, 7. The briefing has boon scheduled for 9 o'clock, April 12. The compressed version of tho briefing will be given in four hours and ohould be completed by one p.m. April 9, 1963 � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CDNW03469 Title A name given to the resource Memorandum Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived "NATO - Nuclear weapons - Policy - NATO long term planning," RG25-A-3-b, vol 5960, file 50219-AL-2-40, part 7-2, Library and Archives Canada (LAC). Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Canadian Crown Subject The topic of the resource Nuclear Weapons Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Canada Declassified Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource PDF Language A language of the resource en Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 9-Apr-63 https://declassified.library.utoronto.ca/files/original/e1734b967781da6280e8e992ecc2159d.pdf 269cc9d658043dc250a7364e684a2001 PDF Text Text :* Document disclosed under the Access to Information Act Document divulgue en vertu de la Loi sur I'acces a I'information v JIBS 735-2000-3 JIBS 1053-2000-11 SE C R E T 01TAVJA, Ontario. 9 April, 1963. Ifr. Leslie Raty, • Attache, • Etebassy of the1United States, 100 Wellington Street, OTTAVA, Ontario. Dear Les: Further to our conversation of 9 April 63 regarding the reporting from Indo China by pur Truce Commission, I would be very grateful indeed if the Agency could assist us by providing some . additional background material. This would enormously assist our people in making accurate observations. a. b. The Rice Crop; (1) Practically no Canadian Officer has any background knov/lodge regarding the planting, cultivation and/or harvesting of rice. It would be aopreciated if some information could be supplied with resird to these and, in addition, some information as to what a good or poor rice crop looks like during these various phases. (2) We were asked for information with regard to the amounts of rice used for food, feed and industrial purposes. The officers in the field have some sketchy information with regard to the classes of rice, but they would very much . like to know how one can quickly identify whether the rice observed is for human consumption or for industrial purposes, Cement Plant (1) Over the year our officers in Haiphong have made a real effort to try and arrange a visit to the Haiphong Cement Plant. Although the DfiVN officials would never come out with a straight "NO", it has been impossible to get into the plant in order to obtain information as to what is happening. Therefore, it would be appreciated if some information could be supplied with regard to what to look for at the railyards at lao Kay and Dong Dang, and at the docks at Haiphong, which would give us a hint as to whether or not the cement plant is being expanded and/or refurbished. (2) "t'e know that limestone is the basic rock used in the production of careent, and the officers continually see junks brinrjin', it into the plant area. V.e have i pretty good idea, I think, whero this rock is being mined, but we would like to know . what other materials and/or chemicals are used in the production of cement, and how we could recognize then when they arrive in the DRVTJ, either by sea or rail. .../2 001026 i �Document disclosed under the Access to Information Act D o c u m e n l ^ ^ g i ^ & i y r e i j u j d e la LoLsur I'acces a I'information JIBS 1053-2000-11 SfcCRjiT - 2 - Fertilizer: (1) 1$. has not been possible during the year to determine the location of what is called the "Lao Kay Apatite Hine". Our officers on many occasions have reported open boxcars filled with a brownish type dirt proceeding South on the Lao Kay - Hanoi rail line, on the sidings on Viet Tri, and in stockpiles on the docks at Haiphong. It would be appreciated if a description of this ore could be supplied, together with the characteristics of an area from which it could be mined. (2) The Viet Tri industrial complex Is undoubtedly using apatite to produce a type of fertilizer. It would be appreciated if information could be forwarded with regard to other ores/chemicals (together with their characteristics) that are required to produce a fertilizer using apatite as its base. Anrnments: (1) This field is perhaps the most difficult, for our officers to obtain any accurate information. At present our only •reference with regard to the Armed Forces of North Vietnam is the U.S. Department of Army Pamphlet Ro. 30-53, dated 6 Dec 61. It is felt that this booklet is quite a bit out of date, and it has been necessary over the year to use in conjunction with it the. U.S. Department of Army Pamphlet Ilo. 30-51, "Handbook on the Chinese Communist Army" dated 7 Dec 60. Ks do not have a handbook on the Soviet Army. It is possible that thore may KOT be a newer reference on the PAVN, but it would be appreciated if a more up to date and consolidated reference could be supplied. (2) In the case of uniforms and military insignia, thore is quite a blank with -regard to officers. We now know that the PAVH have a brownish wool winter uniform, but over the year It has not been possible to show to our officers a picture of officers, or other ranks, in this uniform. Any pictures or descriptions would be appreciated. Shipbuilding (l) We know pretty well the location of the shipyard In Haiphong, although it has proven -impossible so far to get near It. As the DHVN are claiming that these shipyards have the capability of eventually producing a 5,000-ton ship, we would like some information ao to what to look for at the railroads and on tho docks to give a hint as to the size and type of ships being constructed. Industrial Development: (l) During the last year it has been impossible for any of our observers to visit Viet Tri or Thai Kguyen industrial complexes. Once again we ask for information that will give us som-3 idea how to identify light and/or heavy equipment required for chemical and steel factories. .../3 001027 �Document disclosed under the Access to Information Act Docume^t^@^u93^iQfftr^tQ|)^i^%ur I'acces a I'information JIBS 1053-2000^11 SECHET 3 - (2) g. h. j. k. ' . ' Hand in hand with industrial development goes electrical development. Our officers havo not been able to see any evidence of the establishment of an electrical grid. Information on the signs which indicate a grid is being established would be appreciated. Railroads: (1) Information has been requested with regard to the classes of locomotives, and descriptions of passenger and goods wagons being used on the ftorth Vietnamese railroads. The only pictures available here are ones showing the French rolling stock in use up to about 1945. It would be appreciated if some photographs or drawings could be forwarded on the Russian or Chinese narrow guage equipment that it is reasonable to assume are being provided to the DHVN. (2) Tou asked us to obtain information on cistern wagons. We are assuming that a cistern wagon is in fact a tank car, but confirmation and additional information would be helpful. Ground Conditions: (1) In one of the requirements, mention is made of laterite in the construction of roads. Ws would like to Know what are the characteristics of this type of soil and its general appearance. Although it is described as an iron type of clay or dirt, it would also be appreciated if information could be provided as to why it is worthy of note. (2) We would also lika to know how to Judge soil conditions. As North Vietnam is dependent on irrigation for the production of its crops, we would also like to know the characteristics of an irrigation system, and the methods used. Medical: ' • (1) Over the year there has been quite a definite increase in the provision of medical facilities in DRVH. As most of the assistance seems to be coming frcm Czechoslovakia or Poland, we would like information as to the characteristics of Czechoslovakian or Polish type hospitals in order that, when nev; construction is seen, our officers could make a reasonable appreciation as to the capacity and characteristics of the hospital. (2) In the requirements it ws.3 asked whether Schistosomissis is general in the area. On checking with our medical adviser in Saigon as to the signs and characteristics of this disease, it appears that unless an observer was medically trained, no information could be obtained. If there are some si ns or characteristics that an untrained observer could see, we would appreciate receiving such information. Prices: (1) Over the year we have forwarded what prices our officers could readily obtain. Ve would like to know what other specific information is required. 001028 �\" Document disclosed under the Access to Information Act Document divulgue en vertu de la Loi sur I'acces a I'information' - JIBS 735-2000-3 JIBS 1053-2000-11 SECRET - 4 - 1. Photographs: (l) The general situation with regard to obtaining photographs has not changed in the past year. It is still very difficult indeed to take photos. At the present time there are hints that thereJigs been a loosening up in Hanoi and Haiphong and we are doing our best to take advantage of this. We would like to be assured that photographs of the population and general street scenes are of value and, aside from a well known requirement for pictures of industries, military, etc. what other types of photographs would be of value. m. Maps i (1) In 1962, copies of the DRVN produced street map of Hanoi were sent to you. It is now becoming increasingly difficult to pinpoint new construction and important specific observations. If you have any maps for Lao Kay, Dong Dang, Cao Bang, Haiphong, Hon Gai, Vinh, Long Hoi, Viet Tri and the Eastern approaches to Hanoi, we would very much appreciate receiving three or four copies of each. Ve would then send theso to our.returning headquarters for use there. If possible the maps should be gridded similarly to the Hanoi map, i.e., numbers showing Eastings, letters showing Northings. Whether or not these maps are to scale is not particularly important as long as your people and ourselves are operating from the same map. Anything you can do will be very much appreciated and will certainly assist in providing better answers. Yours sincerely, R.L. McOibbon, Joint Intelligence Bureau. 001029 I � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Indochina (CDVN) Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CDVN00010 Title A name given to the resource R. L. McGibbon to Leslie Raty Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 9-Apr-63 Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Library and Archives Canada, RG24, vol. 31276, file 735-2000-3, part 4. 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